Flag advice super thread

[Furghas]

Destroy my flag!

[Awesomeland012345]

Is my flag good?

[New Solaurora]

Destroy my flag!

The tools don't cross enough which makes it hard to tell what they are.

[New Solaurora]

Is my flag good?

Yes

[Britannia Maior]

Salutations!

I come here to ask for some advice or ideas on how I can appropriate the solar symbol linked here for use by the New Britannian State. For context rather than using or somewhat editing the RL coat of arms or symbols of the UK, I am trying for a new and original coat of arms design (or party/national symbol) utilising the solar symbolism or something of that nature.

Edit: I should add that I am likely to place it on a flag, have a new flag made with it on it/designed around it or something else of that nature. So if it can work on a flag that’d be great.

To get an idea on how it could be used, I’ll describe the NBS in more detail. The New Britannian State is the successor state of the UK. of Great Britain and (N.) Ireland, established after it’s equivalent of WW2 and founded upon the ideals of a syncretic and "New Order" political party combing left, right and third position thought. Its ideology revolves around the common well-being of the British people and those under British rule (permitting non-heterosexuality, abortion, welfare state, wealth/land redistribution, supporting domestic businesses, etc), the preservation or reformation of traditional institutions like the monarchy or CoE, the belief in national sovereignty and anti-colonial liberations (removing French rule from Indochina, supporting anti-American movements in the Caribbean and Philippines, etc) and the idea that progress comes from the cooperation of socioeconomic classes. It treads the line between collectivism and individualism, viewing the individual as part of the greater collective who too must be cared for and catered to. The New State work with both democracies and dictatorships so long they’re genuinely helping and aren’t trying to erase borders, native identities or aiding in the regression of the people’s welfare.

One idea that could be used is the crossing of a sceptre (symbol of the monarchy), spade or hoe (common folk) and sword (aristocracy) to signify the union of the social classes, but that idea is up in the air.

So I’d like to hear your thoughts.

[Almonaster Nuevo]

OK, so firstly I think that a flag and a coat of arms are very different in design terms.

For a CoA, you can pile in loads of ideas, multiple quarterings, quite a complex design to get across all the ideas you want to symbolize. Generally speaking, older nations will tend to have simpler arms, more recent ones tend to be more complex.

For flags, you need to strip it right down. A small number of colours, all geometric or with one, maybe two primary symbols.


In this case, the yellow sun might sit well on a plain blue field for the sky. In that case I would recommend quite a light blue.

Another option is to try to link back to the RL countries of the UK. The union flag is already quite cluttered and doesn't match your timeline. Looking at the sun symbol, it has a strong octagonal symmetry. That suggests to me the idea of using a lozengy (diamond pattern) background. You can fill that with red, white and blue to serve as a the link back to the UK.

A quick mock-up to illustrate that last design...

[Britannia Maior]

OK, so firstly I think that a flag and a coat of arms are very different in design terms.

For a CoA, you can pile in loads of ideas, multiple quarterings, quite a complex design to get across all the ideas you want to symbolize. Generally speaking, older nations will tend to have simpler arms, more recent ones tend to be more complex.

For flags, you need to strip it right down. A small number of colours, all geometric or with one, maybe two primary symbols.


In this case, the yellow sun might sit well on a plain blue field for the sky. In that case I would recommend quite a light blue.

Another option is to try to link back to the RL countries of the UK. The union flag is already quite cluttered and doesn't match your timeline. Looking at the sun symbol, it has a strong octagonal symmetry. That suggests to me the idea of using a lozengy (diamond pattern) background. You can fill that with red, white and blue to serve as a the link back to the UK.

A quick mock-up to illustrate that last design...
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I see. Would you classify the New Britannian State as a newer nation? I like the idea of a relatively simplistic coat of arms, those are some of the best to look at in my opinion.

I’ll consider the design you made there, it’ll give me some ideas.

[Kaedijork]

VOTE HERE

Salutations NSers,

Many of you who browse F7 may know I am a man of many flags, who cannot make up his mind. I have thus compiled a (by no means comprehensive) list of flags that I think could be possible contenders for a permanent flag for Kaedijork. Current flag is not on list (only can have 9 poll options), but feel free to say that one too. Apologies for some being imgur links, a couple are too big to display on the forums.

Edit: If you choose an option with several variants, I wouldn't mind if you specified which version you like!

Best wishes,
Kaedijork

https://i.imgur.com/wL3Mmaa.png

https://i.imgur.com/PAZ82RA.png

https://imgur.com/a/YiDLM8V

https://i.imgur.com/j4o82Dw.png

https://i.imgur.com/ooRdcHG.png
https://imgur.com/rOCuhb7
https://imgur.com/KvAlEbG

https://imgur.com/a/UUqbD75

[The Cosmic Mainframe]

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Edit: If you choose an option with several variants, I wouldn't mind if you specified which version you like!

First variant of option 9. I like the half-circle sun. The symbolism is Nazi, of course, but that does fit your nation.

Also, if I could receive some advice on my flag, that would be excellent!

Larger size here: https://i.imgur.com/WBfZZxe.png

[Almonaster Nuevo]

Kaedjork

Your current design is good.
Number 2 is by far the best design of the rest, IMHO, but doesn't seem particularly apt for your nation. If you must change, then I would second 9.1


Cosmic Mainframe

I like the basic design, but I think the execution is a bit off. The arrowhead seems to be pointing off out of the circle rather than indicating a return. Trim the top of the arrowhead and/or have the top line slanted down a little.
You might also consider bringing the flared lines towards the centre so that they start from the corners of the flag.

[Diarcesia]

How can I improve my current flag? Note: It won't be changed, but criticisms and advice will be taken into account for future ones.

Here's the version sans ripple.

Edit: Roast it or do your worst, I don't mind.

[The Cosmic Mainframe]

I like the basic design, but I think the execution is a bit off. The arrowhead seems to be pointing off out of the circle rather than indicating a return. Trim the top of the arrowhead and/or have the top line slanted down a little.
You might also consider bringing the flared lines in a bot so that they start from the corners of the flag.

Thanks for the very professional feedback! I have very little experience in graphic design, so I honestly wouldn't know how to properly edit certain parts of the flag, especially the symbol, without making the design uglier.

I took the reboot symbol from an icon theme made for Linux, and since the arrow was rounded, I simply drew some lines to make it pointed. I do wonder if it would have looked better if it remained rounded. If not, maybe this is the time to make another post in the Seal Request Thread.

The flared lines are designed to resemble a circuit board. An older version of this design had those lines extending to the corners; it was really hard to find proportions that worked while still keeping the circuitboard theme. Either the angle was too sharp or the straight segment was too short.

[Drongonia]

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I'd go with #2, although there was one I'm sure you used to have that had a similar design to that, but with black and gold. Could just be my memory failing me.

[Kaedijork]

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I'd go with #2, although there was one I'm sure you used to have that had a similar design to that, but with black and gold. Could just be my memory failing me.

Yep, with some stars as well if I recall. I think I have that one lying around, I’ll have a look.

[Almonaster Nuevo]

How can I improve my current flag? Note: It won't be changed, but criticisms and advice will be taken into account for future ones.

Here's the version sans ripple.

(Image)

Edit: Roast it or do your worst, I don't mind.

A clear and recognizable flag, easily described or drawn. I see no need to change the basic design.

Looking at the details...
Like many heraldic beasts, the cat is a bit cartoony. If you're happy with a more modern look you might want to consider something like http://photo.pravdapskov.ru/upload/news ... 720108.jpg
With the current cat I would suggest nudging it a little lower and further to the right.
You might also think about using a brighter shade of yellow to enhance the contrast.

[Dialogos]

I have thus compiled a (by no means comprehensive) list of flags that I think could be possible contenders for a permanent flag for Kaedijork.

For whatever my opinion's worth, I prefer #1, #2, and #5. However I also noticed that for #2 and #5, the 3 horizontal stripes on the left aren't quite equally spaced, and in #5 the stars are kind of weirdly positioned.

[Diarcesia]

How can I improve my current flag? Note: It won't be changed, but criticisms and advice will be taken into account for future ones.

Here's the version sans ripple.

(Image)

Edit: Roast it or do your worst, I don't mind.

A clear and recognizable flag, easily described or drawn. I see no need to change the basic design.

Looking at the details...
Like many heraldic beasts, the cat is a bit cartoony. If you're happy with a more modern look you might want to consider something like http://photo.pravdapskov.ru/upload/news ... 720108.jpg
With the current cat I would suggest nudging it a little lower and further to the right.
You might also think about using a brighter shade of yellow to enhance the contrast.

Thank you.

[Confederate American SU]

Either this or this.

[Free Port of Cristina]

The current one but with white background.

[Noahs Second Country]

I'd like some advice regarding my current flag... I have no idea what I'm looking for, outside of the fact that my nation is based around the number 2.

I'm also willing to start from scratch, but I have no idea where to start with the flag design process.

Lastly, I'm also looking to integrate the theme of '2' with 'cards' on my puppet nations in Second Best Card Farm.

I'm fairly capable of creating my own flags, I'm just looking for some inspiration and ideas. Thanks in advance for any advice or help!

[Almonaster Nuevo]

For the farm, how about a spread showing the 4 Kings (second best) from a standard deck?

[Diarcesia]

Thoughts and criticism on this one?

[Dialogos]

I like it quite a lot, but I think the black outline needs to become white, or the green needs to become lighter. The layout by itself is great, though, and I like how that logo straddles the cross's center.

[Diarcesia]

I like it quite a lot, but I think the black outline needs to become white, or the green needs to become lighter. The layout by itself is great, though, and I like how that logo straddles the cross's center.

The flag's green is made lighter. Thoughts?

[New Solaurora]

The flag's green is made lighter. Thoughts?

(Image)

Its good but the cross has an uneven width vertically and horizontally