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Aguaria Major
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Postby Aguaria Major » Sat Jul 06, 2019 12:56 am

Alright:

Which flag should I go with (I was recently presented with an impromptu suggestion from The Apollus, and I can't decide)?

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Paradeavenlisian States
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Postby Paradeavenlisian States » Sat Jul 06, 2019 1:00 am

Aguaria Major wrote:Alright:

Which flag should I go with (I was recently presented with an impromptu suggestion from The Apollus, and I can't decide)?


I would suggest you stick with the fourth one or go with the 3rd one as they seem to have the most appealing designs and they seem to suit your nation the most(particularly your nation's name).
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Almonaster Nuevo
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Postby Almonaster Nuevo » Sat Jul 06, 2019 2:34 am

Aguaria Major wrote:Alright:

Which flag should I go with (I was recently presented with an impromptu suggestion from The Apollus, and I can't decide)?




3 or 6
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The Islands of Versilia
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Fri Aug 02, 2019 3:03 pm

I have a few questions,

So, for context, I’m overhauling my nation and practically redoing its whole lore, history and society. In the modern era, Versilian society and government is dominated by its vampiric and mage minority populations, making the country a de facto magocracy with heavy vampiric influences.

My questions are thus:
1. What colours/shades would be suitable for the country’s flag?
2. Given the fact Latin is an official and Romanesque influences are strong, what sort of actual design could/should I use?
3. I plan to use a horizontal flag, with vertical banner and vexillums (military/civil standards) in common use in the country itself, so how would this affect design and colouration?

My apologies if I haven’t been concise in my writing, it’s rather late at night.
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Almonaster Nuevo
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Postby Almonaster Nuevo » Fri Aug 02, 2019 5:27 pm

1) Black for night, red for blood, white for bones/teeth.

2) Since Roman design pre-dates heraldry, you can play a bit with the normal rules. Just take a look at some roman designs and use anything you like, discard the rest.

3) If you do use heraldic standards, I believe the usual rule is that the field and ordinaries are simply rotated clockwise as though the flag were hanging from a horizontal flagpole. Any charges which have an orientation are then rotated back to the correct aspect, but in the position they would be relative to the rotated flag.

Thus...

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One oddity is that bends (diagonals) are included in oriented charges although they are technically ordinaries. This is because a bend sinister carries a specific meaning.
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The Islands of Versilia
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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Tue Aug 06, 2019 2:48 pm

Almonaster Nuevo wrote:1) Black for night, red for blood, white for bones/teeth.

2) Since Roman design pre-dates heraldry, you can play a bit with the normal rules. Just take a look at some roman designs and use anything you like, discard the rest.

3) If you do use heraldic standards, I believe the usual rule is that the field and ordinaries are simply rotated clockwise as though the flag were hanging from a horizontal flagpole. Any charges which have an orientation are then rotated back to the correct aspect, but in the position they would be relative to the rotated flag.

Thus...

(Image)

One oddity is that bends (diagonals) are included in oriented charges although they are technically ordinaries. This is because a bend sinister carries a specific meaning.

Danke.
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Wohlheim
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Postby Wohlheim » Wed Sep 11, 2019 3:47 pm

Guten Tag!

I’m currently trying to think of a design for this nation’s flag. For context, it’s a sun-worshipping/esoteric Germanic FFT society. I’m thinking of using white and a gold/yellow colour, with one of the eagles below, but I’m not too sure. One piece I thought of was a eagle star above the eagle, representing both the Germanicism and interstellar nature of the nation.

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Postby Almonaster Nuevo » Thu Sep 12, 2019 4:27 am

Gold and white provide poor contrast, so are probably a bad choice as your main pairing unless they are separated by something dark. Black background, white star, gold eagle might work.

Of the eagles shown, I think the first looks most futuristic. Have you considered starship designs with an eagle-type feel?
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Wohlheim
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Postby Wohlheim » Thu Sep 12, 2019 5:12 am

Almonaster Nuevo wrote:Gold and white provide poor contrast, so are probably a bad choice as your main pairing unless they are separated by something dark. Black background, white star, gold eagle might work.

Of the eagles shown, I think the first looks most futuristic. Have you considered starship designs with an eagle-type feel?

That sounds promising. Perhaps white outlined with gold for the star and eagle?

Agreed, I like the first the most. The idea of eagle-like starships sounds interesting.
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-Ocelot-
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Postby -Ocelot- » Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:07 am

How can I improve this flag without fundamentally changing it? I want to keep these colors and symbols, but it feels like it could be improved somehow.

Any suggestions?

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Bears Armed
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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:30 am

-Ocelot- wrote:How can I improve this flag without fundamentally changing it? I want to keep these colors and symbols, but it feels like it could be improved somehow.

Any suggestions?

Maybe increase the height of the lowest stripe by about 50%, without reducing either of the ones above, so that it's slightly more obvious?
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Marxist Germany
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Postby Marxist Germany » Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:34 am

Bears Armed wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:How can I improve this flag without fundamentally changing it? I want to keep these colors and symbols, but it feels like it could be improved somehow.

Any suggestions?

Maybe increase the height of the lowest stripe by about 50%, without reducing either of the ones above, so that it's slightly more obvious?

I also suggest using the 3:2 ratio instead of the 4:2
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The Noviaskiet
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Postby The Noviaskiet » Sat Oct 05, 2019 8:36 am

How does my flag look?
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-Ocelot-
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Postby -Ocelot- » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:02 am

The Noviaskiet wrote:How does my flag look?


Only use a single shade of red.

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-Ocelot-
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Postby -Ocelot- » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:18 am

Bears Armed wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:How can I improve this flag without fundamentally changing it? I want to keep these colors and symbols, but it feels like it could be improved somehow.

Any suggestions?

Maybe increase the height of the lowest stripe by about 50%, without reducing either of the ones above, so that it's slightly more obvious?


Made the red more prominent and changed dimensions to 2:3. What do you think?

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Almonaster Nuevo
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Postby Almonaster Nuevo » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:35 am

The new diagonal version is an improvement.

If you wanted to go back to the horizontal stripes I would suggest making the black and red more nearly equal division, but keep a narrow yellow bar. Then make the star larger and drop it so that it "floats" on the red layer.
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Ravennog
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Postby Ravennog » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:38 am

I need help with my flag; any feedback is fine.
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The Ovakian Technarchy
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Postby The Ovakian Technarchy » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:40 am

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Almonaster Nuevo
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Postby Almonaster Nuevo » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:41 am

The Noviaskiet wrote:How does my flag look?



As Ocelot says, use a single red. probably somewhere between the two you have, or use the darker of the two. Also brighten up the gold a bit.

The central circle could do with being a little larger, and the star proportionally larger within that.
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Postby -Ocelot- » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:41 am

Almonaster Nuevo wrote:The new diagonal version is an improvement.

If you wanted to go back to the horizontal stripes I would suggest making the black and red more nearly equal division, but keep a narrow yellow bar. Then make the star larger and drop it so that it "floats" on the red layer.


The star can't be in the red stripe because it would not symbolize the nation's motto anymore and would make the flag look socialist.

Should the star be bigger, in your opinion? Is its alignment within the black field proper?
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Almonaster Nuevo
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Postby Almonaster Nuevo » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:44 am

The Ovakian Technarchy wrote:Not sure what people think of my flag yet, looking for some opinions about it.



I would suggest making the triangles slightly larger, and moving the whole symbol over to the left.

Orange is an unusual colour, but not wrong. I think a slightly lighter shade would contrast better with the black symbol.
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Almonaster Nuevo
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Postby Almonaster Nuevo » Sat Oct 05, 2019 9:50 am

-Ocelot- wrote:
Almonaster Nuevo wrote:The new diagonal version is an improvement.

If you wanted to go back to the horizontal stripes I would suggest making the black and red more nearly equal division, but keep a narrow yellow bar. Then make the star larger and drop it so that it "floats" on the red layer.


The star can't be in the red stripe because it would not symbolize the nation's motto anymore and would make the flag look socialist.

Should the star be bigger, in your opinion? Is its alignment within the black field proper?


I wasn't envisaging a socialist star. For clarity - something like
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The current design is good. If you wanted, you could make the star slightly larger but it's fine as it is.
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Korasha
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Postby Korasha » Sat Oct 05, 2019 2:34 pm

I can't think of any ways to improve my current flag ... does it even need to be improved or is it fine as it is?

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Almonaster Nuevo
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Postby Almonaster Nuevo » Sat Oct 05, 2019 4:44 pm

I'd say it's pretty good as is.

You might want to consider having the white stripe on the fly (right) side so that the main symbol is nearer the hoist, and thus more visible when the flag is drooping.

You could also darken and saturate the orange and lighten the gold for more contrast.

As I said, though, fine how it is.
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Postby Ravennog » Mon Oct 07, 2019 4:10 pm

I changed my flag again. I'd like to hear your opinions on it, specifically, what I could do to improve it. Thoughts?
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