The United Defenders League

[Tramiar]

Although, that was against TBR, you guys might need to adapt your banjection skills.

For all I know, the rest of them can do it. I haven't gotten the chance to banject fendas at update for quite some time. I'm not sure I could check how fast, back the last time I did, actually. It just seems really fast to me.

[Solm]

Although, that was against TBR, you guys might need to adapt your banjection skills.

For all I know, the rest of them can do it. I haven't gotten the chance to banject fendas at update for quite some time. I'm not sure I could check how fast, back the last time I did, actually. It just seems really fast to me.

Oh it seems incredibly fast to me too, but that's why we have to cut our update times to be very short. We used to do it around 4 seconds before the variance, now we are forced to go back just in case of variance which leaves you guys open to banject us. It is incredibly annoying when raiders shout "oh, adapt better!" When the job of liberators is incredibly much harder than the task of raiding.

[Jakker]

For all I know, the rest of them can do it. I haven't gotten the chance to banject fendas at update for quite some time. I'm not sure I could check how fast, back the last time I did, actually. It just seems really fast to me.

Oh it seems incredibly fast to me to, but that's why we have to cut our update times to be very short. We used to do it around 4 seconds before the variance, now we are forced to go back just in case of variance which leaves you guys open to banject us. It is incredibly annoying when raiders shout "oh, adapt better!" When the job of liberators is incredibly much harder than the task of raiding.

Then make the job easier. You guys have some smart minds. I'm sure you guys can think of something.

[Mallorea and Riva]

For all I know, the rest of them can do it. I haven't gotten the chance to banject fendas at update for quite some time. I'm not sure I could check how fast, back the last time I did, actually. It just seems really fast to me.

Oh it seems incredibly fast to me too, but that's why we have to cut our update times to be very short. We used to do it around 4 seconds before the variance, now we are forced to go back just in case of variance which leaves you guys open to banject us. It is incredibly annoying when raiders shout "oh, adapt better!" When the job of liberators is incredibly much harder than the task of raiding.

I disagree. From the perspective of the individual soldier they are exactly the same thing. It's only a question of timing, which raiders face as well. You guys just have a different reason to be concerned about timing. Also, what Jakker said.

[Mahaj]

The recent attempt of Ohio, I believe, had easily more than 10 banjected in 4 seconds, after update we were able to recreate from the rss feeds that the lead banjected six of us in one second iirc. With two or three more the previous second and two the second after, and that was only based off of the few switchers we could find of the attempt after update.

Although, that was against TBR, you guys might need to adapt your banjection skills.

I'm pretty sure it was 6 in two seconds... if that. Find the feeds on that, because I remember talking about this with Tim or Jamie. Besides banjection speed shouldn't be an issue anymore since you can predict update times perfectly

it was five in one second.

[Mahaj]

Yeah, another sex joke from Blaat about conventional disparities between sexual stamina, hah hah. At least his jokes aren't sexually offensive, well except for the implications of the "invading" part at the end but that's beside the point. *coughs* >_>

I see what you're implying, and I raise you sexually offensive posts by natives (which are somehow apparently not actionable). >.>

And I dwarf that by pointing out the comments by Jakker which were split off and warned for.

[Gest]

Although, that was against TBR, you guys might need to adapt your banjection skills.

For all I know, the rest of them can do it. I haven't gotten the chance to banject fendas at update for quite some time. I'm not sure I could check how fast, back the last time I did, actually. It just seems really fast to me.

Gest gives out advice

Never try to ban the defenders piecemeal. By the time you ban the first guy 10 have already jumped in. The UDL has the same pattern couple of guys jump early, ignore, most jump right after the initial one or two guys, wipe them out, and then there are the stragglers, ban at your leisure. Once the middle pack of defenders have flooded the region and you've opened their tabs button mash control tab + click until you've updated. Some defenders are bound to get in but the important thing is to wipe the out the massive wave that comes in the middle.

[Tramiar]

I see what you're implying, and I raise you sexually offensive posts by natives (which are somehow apparently not actionable). >.>

And I dwarf that by pointing out the comments by Jakker which were split off and warned for.

Jakker made one post that may have possibly implied something. And it doesn't dwarf the native comment. Nice try, though.

[Mallorea and Riva]

I'm pretty sure it was 6 in two seconds... if that. Find the feeds on that, because I remember talking about this with Tim or Jamie. Besides banjection speed shouldn't be an issue anymore since you can predict update times perfectly

it was five in one second.

Was it? If you say so. And I'm certain a GHR was submitted and nothing came from it... so stop missing updates/get creative.

Gest gives out advice

Never try to ban the defenders piecemeal. By the time you ban the first guy 10 have already jumped in. The UDL has the same pattern couple of guys jump early, ignore, most jump right after the initial one or two guys, wipe them out, and then there are the stragglers, ban at your leisure. Once the middle pack of defenders have flooded the region and you've opened their tabs button mash control tab + click until you've updated. Some defenders are bound to get in but the important thing is to wipe the out the massive wave that comes in the middle.

Silly Gest. Telling them what they're doing wrong. But yeah.

[Mahaj]

And I dwarf that by pointing out the comments by Jakker which were split off and warned for.

Jakker made one post that may have possibly implied something. And it doesn't dwarf the native comment. Nice try, though.

Actually it does, and to play it off as less is shameful.

[Tramiar]

Jakker made one post that may have possibly implied something. And it doesn't dwarf the native comment. Nice try, though.

Actually it does, and to play it off as less is shameful.

Oh? How so? Because implications are worse than just coming out and saying things?

[Topid]

How very mature, "He can say whatever he wants because the native said something worse and hurt my feewings."
And the reverse is true too.
I get headaches reading these threads, I know deep down you know both organizations look petty and weak by sitting around bitching at each other.

[Tramiar]

How very mature, "He can say whatever he wants because the native said something worse and hurt my feewings."
And the reverse is true too.
I get headaches reading these threads, I know deep down you know both organizations look petty and weak by sitting around bitching at each other.

You aren't reading my post at all, are you? Did I ever say he was right to say that, or that what the native said was worse? I didn't think so. You must get headaches because of your assumptions and additions to the truth.


Not to mention it takes more than a stupid comment from a random native to hurt my feelings. I'm not gonna cry every time someone says something bad/mean to me. That doesn't make it any less ok, though.

[Topid]

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=183624&p=11142052#p11142052


That's exactly what both of you did.

[Tramiar]

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=183624&p=11142052#p11142052


That's exactly what both of you did.

What, exactly, did we do? Calling something offensive and being bothered by it are not the same.

[Topid]

http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=183624&p=11142052#p11142052


That's exactly what both of you did.

What, exactly, did we do? Calling something offensive and being bothered by it are not the same.

You both pointed at the other side and said you weren't the "worst".
There's no need for such angry and hostile attitudes around here, and I'm not talking just or primarily about you Tramiar, just that post is the one that finally brought me to comment. This side of the game has gotten so angry there's really no way to take a good chunk of the people involved seriously.

[The Blaatschapen]

How very mature, "He can say whatever he wants because the native said something worse and hurt my feewings."
And the reverse is true too.
I get headaches reading these threads, I know deep down you know both organizations look petty and weak by sitting around bitching at each other.

Considering that a quote of mine was tangentially related I feel the need to clarify that I'm not a member of either organisation.

[Tramiar]

What, exactly, did we do? Calling something offensive and being bothered by it are not the same.

You both pointed at the other side and said you weren't the "worst".
There's no need for such angry and hostile attitudes around here, and I'm not talking just or primarily about you Tramiar, just that post is the one that finally brought me to comment. This side of the game has gotten so angry there's really no way to take a good chunk of the people involved seriously.

The difference is, Mahaj said Jakker was way worse, and pretty much that the native did little wrong. I simply said Jakker's comment wasn't the worst. Both are bad.

Can't say I'm generally angry around here. I am capable of having disagreements without being angry.

[His Infernal Majesty]

How very mature, "He can say whatever he wants because the native said something worse and hurt my feewings."
And the reverse is true too.
I get headaches reading these threads, I know deep down you know both organizations look petty and weak by sitting around bitching at each other.

Considering that a quote of mine was tangentially related I feel the need to clarify that I'm not a member of either organisation.

Honestly it transcends all orgs, it just seems to me everyone and everything around here has been even more snarky, taunting, and hostile if related to R/D. Except maybe TITO, I haven't seen anything above and beyond from them recently actually, though admittedly I'm not a close follower.

You both pointed at the other side and said you weren't the "worst".
There's no need for such angry and hostile attitudes around here, and I'm not talking just or primarily about you Tramiar, just that post is the one that finally brought me to comment. This side of the game has gotten so angry there's really no way to take a good chunk of the people involved seriously.

The difference is, Mahaj said Jakker was way worse, and pretty much that the native did little wrong. I simply said Jakker's comment wasn't the worst. Both are bad.

Can't say I'm generally angry around here. I am capable of having disagreements without being angry.

You aren't the most overly respectful, no one is overly respectful. I'm just saying in general it has gotten out of hand, and I for one am going to make a conscious effort to treat all raiders with courtesy and respect above and beyond. Because I miss gameplay where I could read and be entertained rather than annoyed (at both sides).

Posted with defender puppet for lazies.

[Tramiar]

You aren't the most overly respectful, no one is overly respectful. I'm just saying in general it has gotten out of hand, and I for one am going to make a conscious effort to treat all raiders with courtesy and respect above and beyond. Because I miss gameplay where I could read and be entertained rather than annoyed (at both sides).

I'm not. I'm well aware of it. But I don't have much respect for a few people. Sad part is, it's mostly people I used to respect. Some things I can only overlook so many times though. And, no, disagreeing or arguing isn't something I respect anyone less for. I have pretty good reasons (for most of them >.>).


In other news, we seem to be talking about not the UDL again. So... UDL, when are you gonna come visit Hell and Hippiedom?

[Topid]

I'm working on getting my schedule freed up.

[Mahaj]

oh, um

*huggles Topid and Tram*

[Ambroscus Koth]

Ah man, the huggling has spread to the Gameplay forum. What has the world come to?

[GreatER Republicania]

Hmm, I'm not on the gameplay alignment results. Oh well, it's not news that Uni dislikes me and my radical strategies

Where have your radical strategies ever worked?

Give me a few years. It'll all come together... Somehow.

[Flash Delerium]

Nice work on the liberation in Fortreau, Merrymen.