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SevHawk
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Postby SevHawk » Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:27 pm

Good evening!

Small announcement here. Earlier in the week, TBR had tagged A Very Small Box. The Some Fendas came to the rescue, detagged the region, kicked out the raiders...

Except they those same fendas, not TITO, and definitely not Eist, who definitely did NOTHING to help this region, left Ancient Secret Keepers, one of my dirty puppets. It's so dirty that the national happenings of that nation still have my last few jumps to and from The Jesuit Nations from when TBH last raided AVSB. A particularly nice touch was the TG from the fenda delegate, who was not, nor ever has been EIST, claiming me to be a native of the region, and therefore left to be in charge.

I figure this was as good as any time to refound it as a lasting tribute to ineptitude! :bow: :lol: :clap:

Thanks for the help, fendas A GROUP WHICH DOES NOT INCLUDE EIST, OR TITO!

Love, Sev


(Editor's note: I have stricken the generalized statements and added my edits in RED text.)
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Tramiar
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Postby Tramiar » Sun Sep 23, 2012 9:39 pm

You left out the TG part when you told me about this. That makes it even better. :lol:
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Tramiar: *causes great injustices to natives and fenda-kind*
Spartzy: *prevents great injustices*
Tramiar: too late, they were already caused.
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Tramiar: *causes greater injustices, cannot be fixed until next update*
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Postby General Halcones » Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:27 pm

Very good work on that one.

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Postby Feuer Ritter » Sun Sep 23, 2012 11:39 pm

:rofl:

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Postby Eist » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:29 am

SevHawk wrote:Good evening!

Small announcement here. Earlier in the week, TBR had tagged A Very Small Box. The Fendas came to the rescue, detagged the region, kicked out the raiders...
Thanks for the help, fendas!


What defenders? I remember being one, but don't remember being in any way involved in that.
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Postby Tramiar » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:35 am

Eist wrote:
SevHawk wrote:Good evening!

Small announcement here. Earlier in the week, TBR had tagged A Very Small Box. The Fendas came to the rescue, detagged the region, kicked out the raiders...
Thanks for the help, fendas!


What defenders? I remember being one, but don't remember being in any way involved in that.

Oh great. Do we have to learn every defender puppet and be specific about which ones we are talking about now? >.>
Mallorea and Riva wrote:I too would ban myself if I saw me moving into my region.

Tramiar: *causes great injustices to natives and fenda-kind*
Spartzy: *prevents great injustices*
Tramiar: too late, they were already caused.
Spartzy: *stops great injustices*
Tramiar: *causes greater injustices, cannot be fixed until next update*
Spartzy: *quits the game*

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Postby Swift Sure » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:39 am

Eist is one of my favourite defenders in the game :P
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Postby Eist » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:53 am

Tramiar wrote:
Eist wrote:
What defenders? I remember being one, but don't remember being in any way involved in that.

Oh great. Do we have to learn every defender puppet and be specific about which ones we are talking about now? >.>


I mean, you said the defenders detagged it. I am a defender, and I don't remember detagging it.

Swift Sure wrote:Eist is one of my favourite defenders in the game :P


Thanks! It's great to get support like this :)
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Postby Tramiar » Mon Sep 24, 2012 7:56 am

Eist wrote:
Tramiar wrote:Oh great. Do we have to learn every defender puppet and be specific about which ones we are talking about now? >.>


I mean, you said the defenders detagged it. I am a defender, and I don't remember detagging it.

*whines* But I don't wannaaaaa.I barely know my own puppets! :(



I'm going to need a list of every defender's puppets for the history of forever. Updated daily, of course. Eist, you're in charge of providing and updating this list.
Mallorea and Riva wrote:I too would ban myself if I saw me moving into my region.

Tramiar: *causes great injustices to natives and fenda-kind*
Spartzy: *prevents great injustices*
Tramiar: too late, they were already caused.
Spartzy: *stops great injustices*
Tramiar: *causes greater injustices, cannot be fixed until next update*
Spartzy: *quits the game*

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Postby Eist » Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:14 am

Tramiar wrote:
Eist wrote:


I mean, you said the defenders detagged it. I am a defender, and I don't remember detagging it.

*whines* But I don't wannaaaaa.I barely know my own puppets! :(



I'm going to need a list of every defender's puppets for the history of forever. Updated daily, of course. Eist, you're in charge of providing and updating this list.


TITO's list shouldn't be too difficult :P

That said, why do you need a list of every puppet? We are talking about a single detag of a single region, surely everything else is irrelevant.
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Postby Tramiar » Mon Sep 24, 2012 8:17 am

Eist wrote:
Tramiar wrote:
I mean, you said the defenders detagged it. I am a defender, and I don't remember detagging it.

*whines* But I don't wannaaaaa.I barely know my own puppets! :(



I'm going to need a list of every defender's puppets for the history of forever. Updated daily, of course. Eist, you're in charge of providing and updating this list.


TITO's list shouldn't be too difficult :P

That said, why do you need a list of every puppet? We are talking about a single detag of a single region, surely everything else is irrelevant.

Yes, but I'll be needing UDL, FRA, and whatever other groups defend. :P

And if I don't know who the puppet belongs to? I wasn't the person there when it was detagged by defenders. But would you be happier if it said "Fendas that aren't TITO"? If so, imagine that there. It wasn't one of you. :P
Mallorea and Riva wrote:I too would ban myself if I saw me moving into my region.

Tramiar: *causes great injustices to natives and fenda-kind*
Spartzy: *prevents great injustices*
Tramiar: too late, they were already caused.
Spartzy: *stops great injustices*
Tramiar: *causes greater injustices, cannot be fixed until next update*
Spartzy: *quits the game*

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Postby SevHawk » Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:04 am

Specifically acqui_division was the puppet. :p

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Postby Frattastan » Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:15 am

I don't remember that, but ok. Nice conquest, I suppose. :P
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Postby Eist » Mon Sep 24, 2012 10:23 am

SevHawk wrote:Specifically acqui_division was the puppet. :p


That looks a lot like RRA. RRA ≠ TITO ≠ "the defenders".

Just as CoE justifiably gets upset that this Islamophobia lark is being applied to every raider, it's unfair to pin sloppy defending by a subset group on every single defender. You *knew* who it was, and which group they belonged to, and you purposefully drew an inaccurate conclusion to support your own cause.

We in TITO take great pride in doing everything we do to the best of our abilities. I ask, although I am really not expecting, that the next time that something like this happens, you consider being more accurate with your ridicule.
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Postby Crushing Our Enemies » Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:15 am

Eist wrote:That looks a lot like RRA. RRA ≠ TITO ≠ "the defenders".

Just as CoE justifiably gets upset that this Islamophobia lark is being applied to every raider, it's unfair to pin sloppy defending by a subset group on every single defender. You *knew* who it was, and which group they belonged to, and you purposefully drew an inaccurate conclusion to support your own cause.

How are you drawing the conclusion that Sev knew which group it belonged to, and intentionally tried to mislead anyone? When we see people try and liberate a region, we assume they're defenders, and unless they fly colors, I don't see a reason to investigate to get more specific than that. If you're concerned about your reputation, do your own investigation and post your conclusions - we certainly won't contest them.
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Postby SevHawk » Mon Sep 24, 2012 11:56 am

As a note: they also jumped from Kyzikos, a jump point for UDL and FRA forces, and as you can see it was Frattastan.


Eist, you might want to go outside or consider getting a larger size of underwear: you're way too uptight about what Fratt took as a playful ribbing.

I think that we can all agree that "overlooking an obvious raider" being applied to defenders is not nearly as offensive as "hates all muslims" being applied to all raiders.

EIST, I have edited my statement. Please see the changes, and let me know if you approve.
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Postby Quack Hawk » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:02 pm

Sing it with me.


THEY BANNED ME!!! :shock:

THEY CANNED ME!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

OBAMA'S PLAN IS DISNEY!!

THEY BANNED ME!!! :shock:

THEY CANNED ME!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek:

BECAUSE I AM A FRISBEE!!!!!
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Postby Sedgistan » Mon Sep 24, 2012 6:27 pm

Quack Hawk wrote:<snip>

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Postby Crushing Our Enemies » Fri Nov 23, 2012 10:46 pm

The OP has been edited to reflect recent (and not-so-recent) changes in the leadership structure of the region. I encourage anyone interested to take a look at the Council of the Hawks, and the section regarding the newly-created Council Advisory Board!
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Postby Lyanna Stark » Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:34 pm

Oooh, interesting.
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Postby Jamie Anumia » Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:06 am

24th November Major Update
The Black Hawks soared into battle and managed to snatch two regions, we attempted two others, but the fendas got us. Despite this, fenda opposition was weak on our other two raids, with only a single one banned.
Regions raided:
Liberal Haven
Wolf Island
Hawks Participating
General Tramiar
Lieutenant Spartzerium
Corporal JamieHawk
Raids commanded by Jamie Anumia/JamieHawk
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Postby Kogvuron » Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:39 am

Jamie Anumia wrote:24th November Major Update
The Black Hawks soared into battle and managed to snatch two regions, we attempted two others, but the fendas got us. Despite this, fenda opposition was weak on our other two raids, with only a single one banned.
Regions raided:
Liberal Haven
Wolf Island
Hawks Participating
General Tramiar
Lieutenant Spartzerium
Corporal JamieHawk
Raids commanded by Jamie Anumia/JamieHawk


Grats on the raids.

Just curious, why is a corporal commanding raids involving officers? Is there something I don't know about TBH's rank system?
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Postby Tramiar » Sat Nov 24, 2012 5:57 am

Kogvuron wrote:Just curious, why is a corporal commanding raids involving officers? Is there something I don't know about TBH's rank system?

I could give the UDL response to someone questioning what they do. You aren't in our group and you just don't understand! :p

Seriously though, should I tell myself I'm not allowed participate in a raid because I'm ranked higher than the person leading it? I don't wanna be left out. :P
Mallorea and Riva wrote:I too would ban myself if I saw me moving into my region.

Tramiar: *causes great injustices to natives and fenda-kind*
Spartzy: *prevents great injustices*
Tramiar: too late, they were already caused.
Spartzy: *stops great injustices*
Tramiar: *causes greater injustices, cannot be fixed until next update*
Spartzy: *quits the game*

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Postby Cormac Stark » Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:37 am

Tramiar wrote:I could give the UDL response to someone questioning what they do. You aren't in our group and you just don't understand! :p

Seriously though, should I tell myself I'm not allowed participate in a raid because I'm ranked higher than the person leading it? I don't wanna be left out. :P

Another good reason is that if those of lesser rank are never given opportunities to command they won't be prepared to take a command role later when they might be needed. I personally think it's better for those of lesser rank to have some experience with command before being promoted to an officer rank, rather than after, that way they're not learning on the job.

Anyway, congrats on your raids.
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Postby Lyanna Stark » Sat Nov 24, 2012 7:57 am

Congrats on your raids.

(But format your updates better. :P)
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