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Do you think Galiantus knows how to fight the WA? Are you Anti-WA?

Poll ended at Tue May 08, 2012 6:57 pm

He's crazy. I love the WA.
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29%
He's crazy, but I don't really care about the WA.
23
20%
He's crazy. The WA is powerful and evil.
5
4%
Don't know, but I hop the WA does not fall.
4
4%
Don't know, don't care.
15
13%
Don't know, but I hope the WA falls.
5
4%
Yes. I hope the WA takes action against The DCM and crushes it before it gets out of hand.
5
4%
Yes, but I don't really care.
2
2%
Yes!! The WA shall fall!
8
7%
My opinion comes nowhere close to any of these statements.
14
12%
 
Total votes : 114

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Postby Krownsinburg » Sun Mar 25, 2012 6:58 pm

This was a waste of a thread.
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Postby Galiantus » Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:03 pm

Temacht wrote:
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Do you think it's okay for someone to sell themselves into slavery?


Honestly, no, but if they did it they really have no other options.

Do you think it's okay for someone to kill themselves?


That's how I view a new player joining their main nation to the WA. They are selling their national soverignty to the regional delegates of all the largest regions, or commiting national suicide. And half of them don't even realize it! So yes, I am going to use force and military might to stop the WA. But I am not going to just replace one tyrant with another. I am just going to make the WA completely irrelevant, so that the regions can be the highest power. The way it's supposed to be.
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Postby The UK in Exile » Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:06 pm

Galiantus wrote:
Temacht wrote:
Honestly, no, but if they did it they really have no other options.

Do you think it's okay for someone to kill themselves?


That's how I view a new player joining their main nation to the WA. They are selling their national soverignty to the regional delegates of all the largest regions, or commiting national suicide. And half of them don't even realize it! So yes, I am going to use force and military might to stop the WA. But I am not going to just replace one tyrant with another. I am just going to make the WA completely irrelevant, so that the regions can be the highest power. The way it's supposed to be.


and if that doesn't work he'll cede from the Union! Hurrah for the bonnie blue flag!

wait, wrong thread.
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Postby Galiantus » Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:17 pm

Krownsinburg wrote:This was a waste of a thread.


Cinistra wrote:
...BTW, this thread is one of the more entertaining I've seen for awhile. Keep up the good work :) .

It can't be a waste if more than just one person likes it.

The UK in Exile wrote:
Galiantus wrote:
That's how I view a new player joining their main nation to the WA. They are selling their national soverignty to the regional delegates of all the largest regions, or commiting national suicide. And half of them don't even realize it! So yes, I am going to use force and military might to stop the WA. But I am not going to just replace one tyrant with another. I am just going to make the WA completely irrelevant, so that the regions can be the highest power. The way it's supposed to be.


and if that doesn't work he'll cede from the Union! Hurrah for the bonnie blue flag!

wait, wrong thread.


I'm a little more confident than that. If what I do doesn't work, all I really have to do is "play for keeps". Have fun trying to figure that one out. :roll:
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Postby The UK in Exile » Sun Mar 25, 2012 7:33 pm

Galiantus wrote:
Krownsinburg wrote:This was a waste of a thread.


Cinistra wrote:
...BTW, this thread is one of the more entertaining I've seen for awhile. Keep up the good work :) .

It can't be a waste if more than just one person likes it.

The UK in Exile wrote:
and if that doesn't work he'll cede from the Union! Hurrah for the bonnie blue flag!

wait, wrong thread.


I'm a little more confident than that. If what I do doesn't work, all I really have to do is "play for keeps". Have fun trying to figure that one out. :roll:


its a vague, meaningless cliche delivered to convey an air of superiority and failing!

what do I win?
"We fought for the public good and would have enfranchised the people and secured the welfare of the whole groaning creation, if the nation had not more delighted in servitude than in freedom"

"My actions are as noble as my thoughts, That never relish’d of a base descent.I came unto your court for honour’s cause, And not to be a rebel to her state; And he that otherwise accounts of me, This sword shall prove he’s honour’s enemy."

"Wählte Ungnade, wo Gehorsam nicht Ehre brachte."
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Postby Galiantus » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:02 pm

The UK in Exile wrote:
Galiantus wrote:

It can't be a waste if more than just one person likes it.



I'm a little more confident than that. If what I do doesn't work, all I really have to do is "play for keeps". Have fun trying to figure that one out. :roll:


its a vague, meaningless cliche delivered to convey an air of superiority and failing!

what do I win?


I understand the failing part, maybe. But the rest? No.

If you figure it out within 5 days, I'll make you a captain over a significant portion of my army (over 10%) when we get large enough (as in more than 30 members): granted that you also TG me how it relates, do not leak my plan to someone else, and join the DCM.
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Postby The UK in Exile » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:07 pm

Galiantus wrote:
The UK in Exile wrote:
its a vague, meaningless cliche delivered to convey an air of superiority and failing!

what do I win?


I understand the failing part, maybe. But the rest? No.

If you figure it out within 5 days, I'll make you a captain over a significant portion of my army (over 10%) when we get large enough (as in more than 30 members): granted that you also TG me how it relates, do not leak my plan to someone else, and join the DCM.


well now your just trying to trick me into creating your plan for you.
"We fought for the public good and would have enfranchised the people and secured the welfare of the whole groaning creation, if the nation had not more delighted in servitude than in freedom"

"My actions are as noble as my thoughts, That never relish’d of a base descent.I came unto your court for honour’s cause, And not to be a rebel to her state; And he that otherwise accounts of me, This sword shall prove he’s honour’s enemy."

"Wählte Ungnade, wo Gehorsam nicht Ehre brachte."
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Postby Galiantus » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:24 pm

The UK in Exile wrote:
Galiantus wrote:
I understand the failing part, maybe. But the rest? No.

If you figure it out within 5 days, I'll make you a captain over a significant portion of my army (over 10%) when we get large enough (as in more than 30 members): granted that you also TG me how it relates, do not leak my plan to someone else, and join the DCM.


well now your just trying to trick me into creating your plan for you.

:p
Well I guess you'll never know the truth until I've completed a few successful operations, eh? Best you don't find out until then.
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Postby Hangeria » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:24 pm

The UK in Exile wrote:
Galiantus wrote:
I understand the failing part, maybe. But the rest? No.

If you figure it out within 5 days, I'll make you a captain over a significant portion of my army (over 10%) when we get large enough (as in more than 30 members): granted that you also TG me how it relates, do not leak my plan to someone else, and join the DCM.


well now your just trying to trick me into creating your plan for you.

And maybe that's his master plan!
I have foiled it all.

Anyways, this should be interesting to watch.

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Postby The Grand World Order » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:27 pm

You know how you can beat the WA?

Don't join it.
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Postby The Murtunian Tribes » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:28 pm

Galiantus wrote:
The UK in Exile wrote:
well now your just trying to trick me into creating your plan for you.

:p
Well I guess you'll never know the truth until I've completed a few successful operations, eh? Best you don't find out until then.

See? Here's what I don't get. You want to talk all about secrecy, but yet you make a thread about it.

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Postby The Corparation » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:35 pm

The Grand World Order wrote:You know how you can beat the WA?

Don't join it.

This ^ Don't join WA has no effect on you, short of an invasion, but if you have your own region that's a non issue. And even then there are plenty of defender regions. But this is coming from someone who used to be in your mindset for a short while, you can not do a damn thing to stop the WA from functioning. Furthermore the majority of WA nations will not care, much less notice your anti-WA campaign. And the few that do notice will only be mildly annoyed.
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Postby Poni » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:37 pm

I have a question for you, Leader of Galiantus: How do you expect to harm the World Assembly, with a region of only nine members so far? Also, out of those nine, not a single country is a member of the World Assembly, making them 100% useless against the World Assembly. If you wish to do anything about the World Assembly, you will have to try EXTREMELY harder than this.

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Postby Rick Rollin » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:38 pm

But why? And how?
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Postby Monlyth » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:40 pm

I've actually considered joining the World Assembly more than once...
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Postby Avalar » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:41 pm

Ill help! :lol: :lol:
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Postby Galiantus » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:42 pm

The Murtunian Tribes wrote:
Galiantus wrote: :p
Well I guess you'll never know the truth until I've completed a few successful operations, eh? Best you don't find out until then.

See? Here's what I don't get. You want to talk all about secrecy, but yet you make a thread about it.

This thread is actually doing a little recruiting for the DCM.

The original intent was to let the WA know I don't need all that many supporters to cause it pain, but it's kind of turned into a place where everyone is trying to expose me as just another nut-case passing through.
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Postby Hangeria » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:43 pm

Poni wrote:I have a question for you, Leader of Galiantus: How do you expect to harm the World Assembly, with a region of only nine members so far? Also, out of those nine, not a single country is a member of the World Assembly, making them 100% useless against the World Assembly. If you wish to do anything about the World Assembly, you will have to try EXTREMELY harder than this.

They make a WA puppet of course.

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Postby Galiantus » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:45 pm

Poni wrote:I have a question for you, Leader of Galiantus: How do you expect to harm the World Assembly, with a region of only nine members so far? Also, out of those nine, not a single country is a member of the World Assembly, making them 100% useless against the World Assembly. If you wish to do anything about the World Assembly, you will have to try EXTREMELY harder than this.


I explained that on my RMB. We use puppet nations to vote.
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Postby The Corparation » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:46 pm

Galiantus wrote:
The Murtunian Tribes wrote:See? Here's what I don't get. You want to talk all about secrecy, but yet you make a thread about it.

This thread is actually doing a little recruiting for the DCM.

The original intent was to let the WA know I don't need all that many supporters to cause it pain, but it's kind of turned into a place where everyone is trying to expose me as just another nut-case passing through.

To be fair though, you kind of are. Every yera or so we have a new crop of "WA is de ebulist evah" nations/regions, few of them last and almost none maintain any sort of dignity for long. And exactly zero have had any noticeable effect on the WA's ability to function. Not even Gatesville at its prime was capable, nor did it do, any damage to it. You won't, and we're trying to tell you that, to save you the trouble of making a fool of yourself.
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Postby Durmatagno » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:51 pm

Galiantus wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan said:
16,999 vs. 1, I like the WA's odds


It's now 17,300 vs. 7. And growing in my favor.

I am Galiantus, founder of The DCM, and warrior against the WA. If you want to join me, I invite you come to The DCM and help me put the WA in reverse.

To supporters of the WA:

Today I procaliam my undying determination to see the WA stopped in its tyrannicaI function, and inform you that I only need 300 active followers to completely halt the WA in passing any more legislation. Laugh if you want to. In fact, tell me I'm wrong. I want every bit of opposition you can throw at me so I can improve my strategy and win. Within the WA's own rules. But be warned... I will quote what you said about me when I hold the WA by the throat.


I don't support the WA by any stretch of the imagination, it needs to be watched by a second group that makes sure it's not becoming tyrannical or wanting to take over the world, but without the WA, no one will be able to defend founderless regions without locking them outright, so.............
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Postby Wisconsin7 » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:55 pm

Canuckistan, why are we building an embassy with this guy?
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Postby Grotesque Doppelgangers » Sun Mar 25, 2012 9:58 pm

Durmatagno wrote:
Galiantus wrote:
It's now 17,300 vs. 7. And growing in my favor.

I am Galiantus, founder of The DCM, and warrior against the WA. If you want to join me, I invite you come to The DCM and help me put the WA in reverse.

To supporters of the WA:

Today I procaliam my undying determination to see the WA stopped in its tyrannicaI function, and inform you that I only need 300 active followers to completely halt the WA in passing any more legislation. Laugh if you want to. In fact, tell me I'm wrong. I want every bit of opposition you can throw at me so I can improve my strategy and win. Within the WA's own rules. But be warned... I will quote what you said about me when I hold the WA by the throat.


I don't support the WA by any stretch of the imagination, it needs to be watched by a second group that makes sure it's not becoming tyrannical or wanting to take over the world, but without the WA, no one will be able to defend founderless regions without locking them outright, so.............


The WA owned the world when this game began. There's no such thing as the World Assembly becoming tyrannical. The laws of the World Assembly must be approved by a plurality, which is the opposite of oppression. Laws are made and repealed based off what the majority wants. If the World Assmebly becomes tyrannical, it's because the member nations wanted it.

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Postby Grotesque Doppelgangers » Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:00 pm

Galiantus wrote:
Poni wrote:I have a question for you, Leader of Galiantus: How do you expect to harm the World Assembly, with a region of only nine members so far? Also, out of those nine, not a single country is a member of the World Assembly, making them 100% useless against the World Assembly. If you wish to do anything about the World Assembly, you will have to try EXTREMELY harder than this.


I explained that on my RMB. We use puppet nations to vote.


That will last for about fifteen seconds before the moderators delete them all.

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Postby Jagalonia » Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:12 pm

Lets see....With 300 people on your side...the most votes you can possably get is....

599. Assuming they all endorse the same delegate.

That's not enough to shoot down every resolution...

You really didn't think this through, did you?

To make a dent in the decision making, you need atleast 750ish people....
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