16,999 vs. 1: The DCM

[Jagalonia]

The Logic is that NatSovists can just leave the WA.

IntFeds wouldn't, by definition, be able to have that option.

And if I had left the WA, I would have gotten bored of this game long ago.

But doesn't all this moderating keep you entertained?

[Flibbleites]

And if I had left the WA, I would have gotten bored of this game long ago.

But doesn't all this moderating keep you entertained?

I would have quit long before I became a mod. And besides, my knowledge of the WA proposal rules (the GA side specifically) is one of the main reasons I was offered a mod position (and because I'm an idiot I accepted ),

[Viritica]

But doesn't all this moderating keep you entertained?

I would have quit long before I became a mod. And besides, my knowledge of the WA proposal rules (the GA side specifically) is one of the main reasons I was offered a mod position (and because I'm an idiot I accepted ),

I've always been curious as to how being a mod can be so bad.

[Rick Rollin]

I would have quit long before I became a mod. And besides, my knowledge of the WA proposal rules (the GA side specifically) is one of the main reasons I was offered a mod position (and because I'm an idiot I accepted ),

I've always been curious as to how being a mod can be so bad.

The people who whine all the time, for one.

[Galiantus]

An official statement from Galiantus:

After interacting with several different regions, I have decided to side with not only the anti-WA, but the defenders, and any founderless regions who do not participate in the WA, except in defense. There are many nations in founderless regions who would gladly join the WA for the purpose of helping defend their region, but that they must allow their nation to follow WA legislation. By blocking the GA's legislation, I will be giving the founderless regions a chance to defend themselves from invasions with a lot more efficiency. I therefore invite all founderless regions and all defenders to create alliences with The DCM, help us fight the WA and fight the invaders. Although I have admitted I will be using invasions to fight the WA, I pride myself with the fact I will only perminantly capture the most pro-WA regions. All other founderless regions have nothing to fear from me but a better chance a freedom. I would also mention that I have no large problem with liberations in the SC. In fact, in a perfect world liberations would be the only power the WA had. Unfortunately, condemnations and commendations make the liberation process sluggish and all but useless. Again, by fighting condemnations and commendations, I will be giving an extera push for defenders. As a national sovereignist, I belive in the right of all nations and regions to be free from userpation and abuse of power. Someone on this forum said that the WA was created in order to cause such inequality nad power struggles. By fighting the WA, I am perpetuating this struggle, and helping NS as a game. I strongly believe that by fighting the WA I will contribute to the defense of regions, the betterment of nations, and make NationStates a better place on the whole. Thanks MAX.

[SunRawr]

Haha fendas! He's all yours!

[New Heathera]

Well it looks like the number of WA supporters overwhelm the opposition. Hurrah for the loyalists!

[Galiantus]

Well it looks like the number of WA supporters overwhelm the opposition. Hurrah for the loyalists!

I don't get it.

[SunRawr]

Well it looks like the number of WA supporters overwhelm the opposition. Hurrah for the loyalists!

I don't get it.

Pretty sure that is RP-speak for "There are more people who like the WA than people who like your plan."

[Galiantus]

Oh. The survey.

Unfortunately for the WA, size don't matter that much. I have a perfectly legal way to multiply my followers numbers by more than ten.

[Mallorea and Riva]

Oh. The survey.

Unfortunately for the WA, size don't matter that much. I have a perfectly legal way to multiply my followers numbers by more than ten.

Don't let anyone fool you, size always matters. Especially in the WA.

[Galiantus]

Oh. The survey.

Unfortunately for the WA, size don't matter that much. I have a perfectly legal way to multiply my followers numbers by more than ten.

Don't let anyone fool you, size always matters. Especially in the WA.

Okay, it matters. But it doesn't matter as much as you might think.

[Mallorea and Riva]

Don't let anyone fool you, size always matters. Especially in the WA.

Okay, it matters. But it doesn't matter as much as you might think.

Try passing a resolution, and observe the lemming effect. A single delegate with 600+ votes can shift the course of history. Size matters, big time. The only choices you have are to either recruit a shit ton of people, or recruit a slightly lower shit ton, but also influence the major regions (feeders, sinkers, major GCRs), and Gatesville was the only region that really had a good run at that. They didn't lack for numbers either.

[Flibbleites]

Oh. The survey.

Unfortunately for the WA, size don't matter that much. I have a perfectly legal way to multiply my followers numbers by more than ten.

As a mod, I'm quite interested in hearing what this method actually is.

[Tim-Opolis]

Oh. The survey.

Unfortunately for the WA, size don't matter that much. I have a perfectly legal way to multiply my followers numbers by more than ten.

As a mod, I'm quite interested in hearing what this method actually is.

I'm not a mod, but I too wish to hear this

[Viritica]

An official statement from Galiantus:

After interacting with several different regions, I have decided to side with not only the anti-WA, but the defenders, and any founderless regions who do not participate in the WA, except in defense. There are many nations in founderless regions who would gladly join the WA for the purpose of helping defend their region, but that they must allow their nation to follow WA legislation. By blocking the GA's legislation, I will be giving the founderless regions a chance to defend themselves from invasions with a lot more efficiency. I therefore invite all founderless regions and all defenders to create alliences with The DCM, help us fight the WA and fight the invaders. Although I have admitted I will be using invasions to fight the WA, I pride myself with the fact I will only perminantly capture the most pro-WA regions. All other founderless regions have nothing to fear from me but a better chance a freedom. I would also mention that I have no large problem with liberations in the SC. In fact, in a perfect world liberations would be the only power the WA had. Unfortunately, condemnations and commendations make the liberation process sluggish and all but useless. Again, by fighting condemnations and commendations, I will be giving an extera push for defenders. As a national sovereignist, I belive in the right of all nations and regions to be free from userpation and abuse of power. Someone on this forum said that the WA was created in order to cause such inequality nad power struggles. By fighting the WA, I am perpetuating this struggle, and helping NS as a game. I strongly believe that by fighting the WA I will contribute to the defense of regions, the betterment of nations, and make NationStates a better place on the whole. Thanks MAX.

Could the pro-WA regions just password protect themselves?

[Rick Rollin]

As a mod, I'm quite interested in hearing what this method actually is.

I'm not a mod, but I too wish to hear this

1. Create a bunch of delegate ruled regions with at least two nations each.
2. Join the WA.
3. Make one of the nations in a region a delegate.
4. Don't back any resolutions.
5. Repeat until the quorum is so high that getting a resolution on the vote is near impossible.

Yes, this is stupid.

[Frisbeeteria]

Yes, this is stupid.

You've missed the part where he's planning on borrowing a page from raiders. I think the plan involves using switchers to raid multiple regions in a single night close to a vote, and somehow leverage all those regions into a massive voting block that can sway the results any way he wants. Repeat ad infinitum, and his group can support repeals on 99% of the passed resolutions, leaving GAR#1 standing alone in its un-repeal-ability.

I'm still working out the details of how he's planning on having one WA vote count as ten, given that his switcher endorsement bonus votes will evaporate like water drops on a hot griddle before the votes are counted. Still, he assures us it can be done, so I wait for the demonstration of his Mighteh Powahs.

[Mallorea and Riva]

Yes, this is stupid.

You've missed the part where he's planning on borrowing a page from raiders. I think the plan involves using switchers to raid multiple regions in a single night close to a vote, and somehow leverage all those regions into a massive voting block that can sway the results any way he wants. Repeat ad infinitum, and his group can support repeals on 99% of the passed resolutions, leaving GAR#1 standing alone in its un-repeal-ability.

I'm still working out the details of how he's planning on having one WA vote count as ten, given that his switcher endorsement bonus votes will evaporate like water drops on a hot griddle before the votes are counted. Still, he assures us it can be done, so I wait for the demonstration of his Mighteh Powahs.

An alternative possibility would be if he had nations found multiple puppet regions in order to endorse any repeals he might write up. It would make getting proposals to vote easier, but obviously the actual vote would be a slaughter.

[Galiantus]

Oh. The survey.

Unfortunately for the WA, size don't matter that much. I have a perfectly legal way to multiply my followers numbers by more than ten.

As a mod, I'm quite interested in hearing what this method actually is.

Since you're a Mod, I might tell you. But if I do tell you, you'll have to promise two things:

1. You won't tell anyone (excluding Max, of course. If he asks for my little plan, I'll galdly tell him.)
2. Don't take any action against my plan.

Honestly, I think Max will love my plan when he finds out how it works. What he'll do about it, I don't know. He could change a few game mechanics or offer me some kind of reward to not execute my plan, but I think he'll just laugh at it or wonder why someone has not figured it out sooner.

[Mallorea and Riva]

As a mod, I'm quite interested in hearing what this method actually is.

Since you're a Mod, I might tell you. But if I do tell you, you'll have to promise two things:

1. You won't tell anyone (excluding Max, of course. If he asks for my little plan, I'll galdly tell him.)
2. Don't take any action against my plan.

Honestly, I think Max will love my plan when he finds out how it works. What he'll do about it, I don't know. He could change a few game mechanics or offer me some kind of reward to not execute my plan, but I think he'll just laugh at it or wonder why someone has not figured it out sooner.

Isn't your plan available on your forums for all to see?

[Galiantus]

Since you're a Mod, I might tell you. But if I do tell you, you'll have to promise two things:

1. You won't tell anyone (excluding Max, of course. If he asks for my little plan, I'll galdly tell him.)
2. Don't take any action against my plan.

Honestly, I think Max will love my plan when he finds out how it works. What he'll do about it, I don't know. He could change a few game mechanics or offer me some kind of reward to not execute my plan, but I think he'll just laugh at it or wonder why someone has not figured it out sooner.

Isn't your plan available on your forums for all to see?

Ummmm.....

Not for all to see, but any spies have the full plan.

[Mallorea and Riva]

Isn't your plan available on your forums for all to see?

Ummmm.....

Not for all to see, but any spies have the full plan.

If any spies have seen it, it might as well be for all to see.

[Galiantus]

Ummmm.....

Not for all to see, but any spies have the full plan.

If any spies have seen it, it might as well be for all to see.

I'll have to do something about that. It would be a shame if my movement were stopped because of a dumb thing like that.

[Mallorea and Riva]

If any spies have seen it, it might as well be for all to see.

I'll have to do something about that.

I mean... Yeah. I haven't bothered to toss a spy in there yet, but I think I know who has so I'll ask. On the flip side, your plan would have to be a sustained effort so once it's enacted the cat is out of the bag.