Latin motto clinic

by **Bieni** » Mon Nov 05, 2018 1:43 am

Salve.

For this nation, I wanted to have a Latin motto that basically means "Peace under light of day" / "Serenity under daylight".

My attempt at constructing this phrase resulted in "Serenitas in lux". If there's any way to make it more faithful to the intended meaning, do let me know.

by **Great Nortend** » Mon Nov 05, 2018 3:16 am

Pax I think suits a motto better. Is there a reason why you chose 'in' (in) and not 'sub' (under)?

Pax sub luce

by **Verdant Haven** » Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:43 pm

I am interested in checking the wording for my motto, please!

The English translation I seek is "We Have the Will" (in the sense of "the willpower to get something done")

My current Latin is "Voluntatem Habemus"

I know word order can be a bit flexible, and that "Habemus Papam" is the announcement for a new Pope - would I need to reverse my words? Also, is "Voluntatem" the correct word and conjugation to be using?

Many thanks in advance.

by **Astrolinium** » Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:02 pm

Verdant Haven wrote:I am interested in checking the wording for my motto, please!

The English translation I seek is "We Have the Will" (in the sense of "the willpower to get something done")

My current Latin is "Voluntatem Habemus"

I know word order can be a bit flexible, and that "Habemus Papam" is the announcement for a new Pope - would I need to reverse my words? Also, is "Voluntatem" the correct word and conjugation to be using?

Many thanks in advance.

That looks correct. For reference, Latin word order is highly flexible. Your order is actually more standard, but you're also welcome to reverse them if you like how it sounds better.

by **Verdant Haven** » Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:54 pm

Astrolinium wrote:
Verdant Haven wrote:I am interested in checking the wording for my motto, please!

The English translation I seek is "We Have the Will" (in the sense of "the willpower to get something done")

My current Latin is "Voluntatem Habemus"

I know word order can be a bit flexible, and that "Habemus Papam" is the announcement for a new Pope - would I need to reverse my words? Also, is "Voluntatem" the correct word and conjugation to be using?

Many thanks in advance.

That looks correct. For reference, Latin word order is highly flexible. Your order is actually more standard, but you're also welcome to reverse them if you like how it sounds better.

Thank you kindly!

by **Bieni** » Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:53 pm

Great Nortend wrote:Pax I think suits a motto better. Is there a reason why you chose 'in' (in) and not 'sub' (under)?

Pax sub luce

When I was trying to come up with the motto, I was thinking of using 'in' (in) the same way it's used in the English phrase "Remain in light". I thought 'sub' (under) wouldn't quite fit since light isn't a tangible object that can be placed directly over someone.

Thanks for the response!

by **Bruttain** » Fri Nov 09, 2018 11:22 am

Conoga wrote:
Bruttain wrote:Actually, thinking further, I might use both of those designations as alternative epithets for this single Aspect, with which is used in a specific situation tending to depend on the nature of the effort in which Her aid is hoped-for.

‘Phaëtone’ does look like a good idea to me, yes, especially as mythology names another daughter of Helios as Phaethusa. I’m now also considering ‘Chryse (i.e. ‘Golden’) for this.

In a ‘Who’s Who in Classical Mythology’, I've found ‘Elater’ as a Greek term for “Driver” (meaning “Charioteer”), and I might use this instead of ‘Auriga’.
Chrysea, probably
Elatrix is a maybe feminine form, my Greek's bad

Thank you.

by **Crysuko** » Fri Nov 09, 2018 4:56 pm

"I belong, you belong, we belong to Crysuko"
thanks in advance

by **Conoga** » Sat Nov 10, 2018 8:56 am

Crysuko wrote:"I belong, you belong, we belong to Crysuko"
thanks in advance

Insum, ines, insumus ad Crisucum

by **Eassex** » Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:08 am

Could someone translate “our people, our homeland” into Latin, please?

by **Conoga** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:12 am

Eassex wrote:Could someone translate “our people, our homeland” into Latin, please?

Populus noster, patria nostra

by **Eassex** » Sun Dec 02, 2018 10:19 am

Conoga wrote:
Eassex wrote:Could someone translate “our people, our homeland” into Latin, please?
Populus noster, patria nostra

Thanks!

by **Conoga** » Mon Dec 03, 2018 12:23 pm

Eassex wrote:
Conoga wrote:Populus noster, patria nostra

Thanks!

Libenter!

by **McChimp** » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:21 pm

Don't suppose anybody could translate "Rights by rights falter"/"Rights by rights founder" for me?

A friend suggested "iura iuribus claudent"-is that right?

by **Great Nortend** » Sat Jan 12, 2019 8:41 pm

What does that even mean in English?

by **Conoga** » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:26 pm

McChimp wrote:"Rights by rights falter"

iura iuribus titubat (laws by laws falter/stagger/etc.)
iura iuribus claudet (laws by laws limp/hobble/etc.(not claudent(that would be laws by laws limping/hobbling/etc.)))
iura iuribus deficit (laws by laws fail/abandon/etc.)

Great Nortend wrote:What does that even mean in English?

I'm pretty sure they meant flounder loool
in the case you did not, it's iura iuribus auctor, but it's a nonsense sentence
If you like the look more, jura juribus XX is the more common spelling, iura iurbus is by no means incorrect

(j/i)ura (j/i)uribus also means soups by soups, which is fun

by **Great Nortend** » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:29 pm

I still don't understand what 'laws by laws falter' means. Does it mean that laws are failed or brought down by other laws?

by **Conoga** » Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:30 pm

Great Nortend wrote:I still don't understand what 'laws by laws falter' means. Does it mean that laws are failed or brought down by other laws?

I think so?

Like the right to security versus the right to freedom, yeah?

I eagerly away M. McChimp's clarification, because I also don't know

by **McChimp** » Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:23 am

Conoga wrote:I think so?

Like the right to security versus the right to freedom, yeah?

I eagerly away M. McChimp's clarification, because I also don't know

It's from Coriolanus, a Shakespeare play, and my understanding of it is that only a right may truly erase another right. Like security versus freedom, as you say.

Thank you all very much.

by **New Totzka** » Sun Jan 20, 2019 7:37 am

Could someone translate something along the lines of "I am what others think" or "I am what others think I am" please. Thanks

by **Erythrean Thebes** » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:11 am

Sum Aliorum Mihi Sentiones

Edit: I could also see Sum Ut Aliorum Mihi Sensum Est

Edit 2: In latin to preserve the sense of the phrase you could also switch it, like "Ut Me Opinantur Alii, Ita Sum Ego"

by **New Totzka** » Fri Jan 25, 2019 8:59 am

Erythrean Thebes wrote:Sum Aliorum Mihi Sentiones

Edit: I could also see Sum Ut Aliorum Mihi Sensum Est

Edit 2: In latin to preserve the sense of the phrase you could also switch it, like "Ut Me Opinantur Alii, Ita Sum Ego"

Thank you

by **Great Nortend** » Fri Jan 25, 2019 9:41 pm

Sum qui me opinantur esse, is what I would propose. 'I am what they (others) deem me to be'. You could potentially get rid of the final 'esse'.

by **Erythrean Thebes** » Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:12 am

Great Nortend wrote:Sum qui me opinantur esse, is what I would propose. 'I am what they (others) deem me to be'. You could potentially get rid of the final 'esse'.

Hmm, I would do 'quem' here...

by **Great Nortend** » Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:26 pm

Erythrean Thebes wrote:
Great Nortend wrote:Sum qui me opinantur esse, is what I would propose. 'I am what they (others) deem me to be'. You could potentially get rid of the final 'esse'.

Hmm, I would do 'quem' here...

Hmm... upon thought you're right. 'Quem' should agree with 'me', being the complement of 'esse'.

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