Latin motto clinic

[Danceria]

I would like to know the phrase "Rising above the rising tides" in Latin, if you please.

Perhaps Oriēns super orientēs aestūs.

Thanks. I never knew Latin had any...unique letters/vowels like France or Spain (Ironic, considering they're latin based languages). Did the old Romans write with lines over their vowels to discern pronunciation, or is that a more recent development?

[Demetland]

Perhaps Oriēns super orientēs aestūs.

Thanks. I never knew Latin had any...unique letters/vowels like France or Spain (Ironic, considering they're latin based languages). Did the old Romans write with lines over their vowels to discern pronunciation, or is that a more recent development?

They aren't really unique letters; the macron just indicates a long vowel. The Romans didn't indicate vowel quantity, but many modern grammars or textbooks do because it helps the student to distinguish between certain words, or certain forms of words.

[Danceria]

Thanks. I never knew Latin had any...unique letters/vowels like France or Spain (Ironic, considering they're latin based languages). Did the old Romans write with lines over their vowels to discern pronunciation, or is that a more recent development?

They aren't really unique letters; the macron just indicates a long vowel. The Romans didn't indicate vowel quantity, but many modern grammars or textbooks do because it helps the student to distinguish between certain words, or certain forms of words.

I always thought it was sort of " "u" was pronounced like such unless paired with "consonant"."

[Waldriech]

Got a D in Latin last year. But I still think, I hope my motto is fine.
"Lux Dei Praecedit"

[Great Nortend]

Is 'The light of God precedes' what you want?

[Tyskylvania]

How could I explain the existence of Latin in this world? It's a typical High Fantasy type world.

[Greifenburg]

Ah, great, my latin is very poor unfortunatly.

My motto is "Confidete in cervisia et grypes"

[Bears Armed]

I'd appreciate some more help with Latin for taxonomical purposes, if anybody here is willing to assist me:

1. I know that the term 'Rodent' comes from the Latin verb 'Rodere', meaning 'To Gnaw'. What would the Latin for 'Gnawing', for use as the first part of the name for a group of animals (e.g. an Order [Gnawing]marsupialia ) be?

2. I know that the 'Bronto-' in names such as Brontosaurus and Brontotherium means 'Thunder'. Can you give me any synonyms to use in name for a different (but also LARGE) type of '-therium'?
(If I recall correctly then both 'Bronto' and 'therium' are actually based on words taken originally from Greek, so synonyms that also share this origin might be most appropriate, but there's precedent for taxonomy mixing Latin-derived elements with Greek-derived elements within single names so I'm not too fussed about that point...)

3. I have started to describe an animal (a local descendant of a group that died out long ago in RL) that gains much of its food by scavenging from carcasses. I want its genus name to mean 'Hunter of bones'. Would that be 'Ossivenator', or something similar? If not, then what would you suggest?

[Astrolinium]

Ah, great, my latin is very poor unfortunatly.

My motto is "Confidete in cervisia et grypes"

Well, first, do you mean it to mean "Trust in beer and into griffins"?

I'd appreciate some more help with Latin for taxonomical purposes, if anybody here is willing to assist me:

1. I know that the term 'Rodent' comes from the Latin verb 'Rodere', meaning 'To Gnaw'. What would the Latin for 'Gnawing', for use as the first part of the name for a group of animals (e.g. an Order [Gnawing]marsupialia ) be?

2. I know that the 'Bronto-' in names such as Brontosaurus and Brontotherium means 'Thunder'. Can you give me any synonyms to use in name for a different (but also LARGE) type of '-therium'?
(If I recall correctly then both 'Bronto' and 'therium' are actually based on words taken originally from Greek, so synonyms that also share this origin might be most appropriate, but there's precedent for taxonomy mixing Latin-derived elements with Greek-derived elements within single names so I'm not too fussed about that point...)

3. I have started to describe an animal (a local descendant of a group that died out long ago in RL) that gains much of its food by scavenging from carcasses. I want its genus name to mean 'Hunter of bones'. Would that be 'Ossivenator', or something similar? If not, then what would you suggest?

1. Rodenti- is the prefix you want (e.g. rodentimarsupialia).
2. Tonitru- is a good Latin equivalent -- you're right that both of those are from Greek. Hyggemata is more of the resident Greek scholar, he may be able to help here more than I can.
3. I think that would probably suffice, yes.

[Greifenburg]

Ah, great, my latin is very poor unfortunatly.

My motto is "Confidete in cervisia et grypes"

Well, first, do you mean it to mean "Trust in beer and into griffins"?

Yes, "Trust in beer and griffins!", that's what I wanted it to mean. But I don't know if the imperative form and the grammar are used correctly.

[Haumland]

Could someone help me on what "peace through blood" is in Latin?

[Astrolinium]

Well, first, do you mean it to mean "Trust in beer and into griffins"?

Yes, "Trust in beer and griffins!", that's what I wanted it to mean. But I don't know if the imperative form and the grammar are used correctly.

I'd go with In cervisia et grypibus fide. "In" takes the ablative, it's normal practice in mottos for the imperative to be plural, and fido, I think, more closely aligns with the religious connotation I assume you want (I assume this because fido only really takes an object with "in" in religious usage).

Could someone help me on what "peace through blood" is in Latin?

Per sanguinem pax.

[Greifenburg]

Yes, "Trust in beer and griffins!", that's what I wanted it to mean. But I don't know if the imperative form and the grammar are used correctly.

I'd go with In cervisia et grypibus fide. "In" takes the ablative, it's normal practice in mottos for the imperative to be plural, and fido, I think, more closely aligns with the religious connotation I assume you want (I assume this because fido only really takes an object with "in" in religious usage).

Thank you very much, that's exactly what I was looking for!

[Bears Armed]

I'd appreciate some more help with Latin for taxonomical purposes, if anybody here is willing to assist me:

1. I know that the term 'Rodent' comes from the Latin verb 'Rodere', meaning 'To Gnaw'. What would the Latin for 'Gnawing', for use as the first part of the name for a group of animals (e.g. an Order [Gnawing]marsupialia ) be?

2. I know that the 'Bronto-' in names such as Brontosaurus and Brontotherium means 'Thunder'. Can you give me any synonyms to use in name for a different (but also LARGE) type of '-therium'?
(If I recall correctly then both 'Bronto' and 'therium' are actually based on words taken originally from Greek, so synonyms that also share this origin might be most appropriate, but there's precedent for taxonomy mixing Latin-derived elements with Greek-derived elements within single names so I'm not too fussed about that point...)

3. I have started to describe an animal (a local descendant of a group that died out long ago in RL) that gains much of its food by scavenging from carcasses. I want its genus name to mean 'Hunter of bones'. Would that be 'Ossivenator', or something similar? If not, then what would you suggest?

1. Rodenti- is the prefix you want (e.g. rodentimarsupialia).
2. Tonitru- is a good Latin equivalent -- you're right that both of those are from Greek. Hyggemata is more of the resident Greek scholar, he may be able to help here more than I can.
3. I think that would probably suffice, yes.

Thank you.
If you ever want help with drafting a GA proposal, get in touch.

p.s. How about Myrmecofossor for a genus of 'ant-eaters' that digs its food out of ants' nests & termites' nests? Okay, as far as the Latin is concerned?

[Astrolinium]

1. Rodenti- is the prefix you want (e.g. rodentimarsupialia).
2. Tonitru- is a good Latin equivalent -- you're right that both of those are from Greek. Hyggemata is more of the resident Greek scholar, he may be able to help here more than I can.
3. I think that would probably suffice, yes.

Thank you.
If you ever want help with drafting a GA proposal, get in touch.

p.s. How about Myrmecofossor for a genus of 'ant-eaters' that digs its food out of ants' nests & termites' nests? Okay, as far as the Latin is concerned?

I think that'd work, yeah. Myrmex is from Greek, though, so I'm not 100% sure on whether or not "o" is the correct stem vowel.

[Gigaverse]

1. Rodenti- is the prefix you want (e.g. rodentimarsupialia).
2. Tonitru- is a good Latin equivalent -- you're right that both of those are from Greek. Hyggemata is more of the resident Greek scholar, he may be able to help here more than I can.
3. I think that would probably suffice, yes.

Thank you.
If you ever want help with drafting a GA proposal, get in touch.

p.s. How about Myrmecofossor for a genus of 'ant-eaters' that digs its food out of ants' nests & termites' nests? Okay, as far as the Latin is concerned?

I'd personally recommend Myrmecoscapta, derived from the appropriate Hellenic sources. Less surefire answers would be Formicifossor or Formicofossor. All are supposed to mean "ant-digger".

[Bears Armed]

p.s. How about Myrmecofossor for a genus of 'ant-eaters' that digs its food out of ants' nests & termites' nests? Okay, as far as the Latin is concerned?

I think that'd work, yeah. Myrmex is from Greek, though, so I'm not 100% sure on whether or not "o" is the correct stem vowel.

Thank you. I was going by the fact that in RL the 'Latin' name for the Giant Anteater is Myrmecophaga tridactyla.

I'd personally recommend Myrmecoscapta, derived from the appropriate Hellenic sources. Less surefire answers would be Formicifossor or Formicofossor. All are supposed to mean "ant-digger".

Thank you.

[SHutton]

Utilitas, Honor et Gloria seems nice to me. I'd stop there.

[Gigaverse]

What's standard procedure when faced with an indeclinable noun in Latin that can't easily be pinned to any of the orthodox Latin ways of declining nouns (e.g. cherub): treat the nominative case form as that of all others and use accordingly (Liber Cherub), use some kind of preposition such as "de" (Liber de Cherub), or force it into the third declension and proceed from there (Liber Cherubis)?

Wiktionary seems to suggest to me that the first scenario would be the case - if its declension board for cherub in Latin is any indication; but I need further input than my own initial conclusion.

[Tracian Empire]

How would you add "Emperor" to the traditional SPQR phrase? To make it look like the Emperor, the Senate, and the People of Rome? Imperator et Senatus Populusque Romanus?

[Great Nortend]

Depending on what you want, as the original means the Roman Senate and People. For the Roman Emperor, Senate and People you could try Imperator et Senatus Populusque Romanus or even perhaps remove the et and if you want add a -que if you want to maintain the appearance of the phrase.

[Astrolinium]

What's standard procedure when faced with an indeclinable noun in Latin that can't easily be pinned to any of the orthodox Latin ways of declining nouns (e.g. cherub): treat the nominative case form as that of all others and use accordingly (Liber Cherub), use some kind of preposition such as "de" (Liber de Cherub), or force it into the third declension and proceed from there (Liber Cherubis)?

Wiktionary seems to suggest to me that the first scenario would be the case - if its declension board for cherub in Latin is any indication; but I need further input than my own initial conclusion.

Yeah, first is the case.

How would you add "Emperor" to the traditional SPQR phrase? To make it look like the Emperor, the Senate, and the People of Rome? Imperator et Senatus Populusque Romanus?

It depends. Imperator is indeed a word for Emperor, but it's also specifically a military title, and depending on context and historical period you may well want to use Dominus, Caesar, Augustus, or Princeps instead. You have the basic structure correct, though.

[Dravkian]

Can someone translate this to latin?

Out of darkness, we bring justice.

[Tracian Empire]

What's standard procedure when faced with an indeclinable noun in Latin that can't easily be pinned to any of the orthodox Latin ways of declining nouns (e.g. cherub): treat the nominative case form as that of all others and use accordingly (Liber Cherub), use some kind of preposition such as "de" (Liber de Cherub), or force it into the third declension and proceed from there (Liber Cherubis)?

Wiktionary seems to suggest to me that the first scenario would be the case - if its declension board for cherub in Latin is any indication; but I need further input than my own initial conclusion.

Yeah, first is the case.

How would you add "Emperor" to the traditional SPQR phrase? To make it look like the Emperor, the Senate, and the People of Rome? Imperator et Senatus Populusque Romanus?

It depends. Imperator is indeed a word for Emperor, but it's also specifically a military title, and depending on context and historical period you may well want to use Dominus, Caesar, Augustus, or Princeps instead. You have the basic structure correct, though.

Yeah, I am specifically trying to use Imperator, to put some emphasis on the power of imperium.

I'll probably go with Imperator et Senatus Populusque Romanus, since I'm not sure how to use the que particle.

[Astrolinium]

Can someone translate this to latin?

Out of darkness, we bring justice.

Ex umbris iustitiam ferimus.

Yeah, first is the case.



It depends. Imperator is indeed a word for Emperor, but it's also specifically a military title, and depending on context and historical period you may well want to use Dominus, Caesar, Augustus, or Princeps instead. You have the basic structure correct, though.

Yeah, I am specifically trying to use Imperator, to put some emphasis on the power of imperium.

I'll probably go with Imperator et Senatus Populusque Romanus, since I'm not sure how to use the que particle.

Normal usage would be to just drop the et, I believe, but you also sometimes see authors using multiple -ques, so if you wanted to use it you could either go with Imperator Senatus Populusque Romanus or Imperator Senatusque Populusque Romanus -- but it does indeed work as you have it.