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Tramiar
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Postby Tramiar » Mon Jan 02, 2012 10:38 pm

Warzone Codger wrote:Edit Jakker: I'm sure Unibot contributes much more to NS, he's also one of the biggest faces in the WA. By your total non presence there doesn't you to automatically lose since you aren't getting the most out of the game? Unless you dominate the RP forums....

This is about raiding and defending, not NS in general. As for "contributing more"... in terms of the WA, sure. Other than that, I'll have to disagree. As far as percents go, at least. Uni's been around quite a bit longer than Jakker.
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:31 am

... They took... My flag. It's my flag. Not Jakker's. Not Unibot's. Not Mahaj's. It's mine.
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Postby Mahaj » Tue Jan 03, 2012 5:13 am

Mallorea and Riva wrote:... They took... My flag. It's my flag. Not Jakker's. Not Unibot's. Not Mahaj's. It's mine.

LOL. Well, you can always try again. :P
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<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations

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Postby Green Kitties » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:54 am

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Postby Cromarty » Tue Jan 03, 2012 11:55 am

You should probably clear the ban list tbh.
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Postby Belschaft » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:00 pm

In the politest way possible, who the bloody hell is Jakker? Maybe I should declare a personal contest between myself and Halcones. That would seem to be the equivalent of this to me.
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Postby Harmoneia » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:04 pm

Jakker wrote:It's hard for defenders to liberate region with a lot of endorsements, but I challenge them to do it. However, if the defenders truly do some great things, I will be the first to tell them.
[...]
This game could use some real entertainment. I know this challenge is out there, but I want to give people something to talk about.


I know how you mean, and perhaps that is one goal we both have in common.
However, by holding a region that requires us to gather 50 updaters simply because you can tap anyone and say "hey bud who isn't even in the forums, move your WA here and endorse this for support", you automatically and ultimately render us handicapped and incapable of moving. You all stay there and nothing happens anywhere else. Unless your target region is one with history, enabling us to get people who wouldn't normally defend, then you kill the game instead of inviting some action.

Personally, I'd call TPC and Anarchy the great raids of 2011.

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Postby Eist » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:16 pm

Harmoneia wrote:Personally, I'd call TPC and Anarchy the great raids of 2011.


I know this has been addressed already, and I agree with everything else you say, but Anarchy was an absolute joke caused by a crazy and inept native delegate - I really hope it isn't remembered as "one of the great raids".
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Postby Harmoneia » Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:34 pm

*hugs Eist*

it can benefit from a little rephrasing, but my point being that the last three piled-up raids doesn't really attract much action and entertainment. :)
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Postby Unibot II » Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:04 pm

Eist wrote:
Harmoneia wrote:Personally, I'd call TPC and Anarchy the great raids of 2011.


I know this has been addressed already, and I agree with everything else you say, but Anarchy was an absolute joke caused by a crazy and inept native delegate - I really hope it isn't remembered as "one of the great raids".


It was the only one of the few this year that required skill on the part of the raiders and the defenders. These pile-up raids will all be forgotten as a big blob of stupid that occurred throughout 2011.
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Postby Hassett » Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:25 pm

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Unibot II wrote:Um, since no one objectively "wins" in NS [...]

The quote in your signature argues otherwise. :P

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Postby Tramiar » Tue Jan 03, 2012 1:56 pm

Mahaj wrote:
Mallorea and Riva wrote:Dibs. Should've made the founder non-executive.

No. This way I can prevent a refounding and keep the game going.

How's that working for you?
Mallorea and Riva wrote:I too would ban myself if I saw me moving into my region.

Tramiar: *causes great injustices to natives and fenda-kind*
Spartzy: *prevents great injustices*
Tramiar: too late, they were already caused.
Spartzy: *stops great injustices*
Tramiar: *causes greater injustices, cannot be fixed until next update*
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:09 pm

Tramiar wrote:
Mahaj wrote:No. This way I can prevent a refounding and keep the game going.

How's that working for you?


:rofl:

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Postby Switzlanzia » Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:11 pm

Good luck, Unibot, you're gonna need it.

Go Jakker!

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Tue Jan 03, 2012 2:20 pm

To add to the Olympic discussion going on...

Heres a crazy idea. DO BOTH of the events suggested. The Olympics have multiple events after all :P

So maybe like... 3 days of capture the flag... and 1 week of warzone fights.

Also Codger. How about points be given per update instead of per day. Seems more logical
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Postby Mahaj » Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:02 pm

Tramiar wrote:
Mahaj wrote:No. This way I can prevent a refounding and keep the game going.

How's that working for you?

Whatever. I hope you'll keep the game alive though.
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<@Eluvatar> Why is SkyDip such a purist raiderist
<+frattastan> Because his region was never raided.
<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations

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Postby Warzone Codger » Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:03 pm

I'm *twitching*, *blood pressure raising* at the moment since instead of using the Warzones, people would rather create their own "The Flag'...that just utterly peeves me off.

Get back to you when I've calmed down.
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Postby Spartzerium » Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:06 pm

Warzone Codger wrote:I'm *twitching*, *blood pressure raising* at the moment since instead of using the Warzones, people would rather create their own "The Flag'...that just utterly peeves me off.

Get back to you when I've calmed down.

But you can't refound warzones!
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Postby Mahaj » Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:07 pm

Warzone Codger wrote:I'm *twitching*, *blood pressure raising* at the moment since instead of using the Warzones, people would rather create their own "The Flag'...that just utterly peeves me off.

Get back to you when I've calmed down.

But you *like* internationalism. You should be applauding us since we're part of the community.
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<@Eluvatar> Why is SkyDip such a purist raiderist
<+frattastan> Because his region was never raided.
<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations

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Postby Casl » Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:26 pm

Harmoneia wrote:
Jakker wrote:It's hard for defenders to liberate region with a lot of endorsements, but I challenge them to do it. However, if the defenders truly do some great things, I will be the first to tell them.
[...]
This game could use some real entertainment. I know this challenge is out there, but I want to give people something to talk about.


I know how you mean, and perhaps that is one goal we both have in common.
However, by holding a region that requires us to gather 50 updaters simply because you can tap anyone and say "hey bud who isn't even in the forums, move your WA here and endorse this for support", you automatically and ultimately render us handicapped and incapable of moving. You all stay there and nothing happens anywhere else. Unless your target region is one with history, enabling us to get people who wouldn't normally defend, then you kill the game instead of inviting some action.

Personally, I'd call TPC and Anarchy the great raids of 2011.

And stargate has no history?

Are you f**king kidding me? The region is ancient....

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Postby Mahaj » Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:36 pm

Casl wrote:
Harmoneia wrote:
I know how you mean, and perhaps that is one goal we both have in common.
However, by holding a region that requires us to gather 50 updaters simply because you can tap anyone and say "hey bud who isn't even in the forums, move your WA here and endorse this for support", you automatically and ultimately render us handicapped and incapable of moving. You all stay there and nothing happens anywhere else. Unless your target region is one with history, enabling us to get people who wouldn't normally defend, then you kill the game instead of inviting some action.

Personally, I'd call TPC and Anarchy the great raids of 2011.

And stargate has no history?

Are you f**king kidding me? The region is ancient....

History, but not a *grand* history.
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<@Eluvatar> Why is SkyDip such a purist raiderist
<+frattastan> Because his region was never raided.
<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations

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Postby Tramiar » Tue Jan 03, 2012 3:49 pm

Oh George... You count that as a point? Sad. How about doing something we care about/ might be paying even a tiny bit of attention to? :p


EDIT: Guess you're not so proud of it now. :unsure:
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Mallorea and Riva wrote:I too would ban myself if I saw me moving into my region.

Tramiar: *causes great injustices to natives and fenda-kind*
Spartzy: *prevents great injustices*
Tramiar: too late, they were already caused.
Spartzy: *stops great injustices*
Tramiar: *causes greater injustices, cannot be fixed until next update*
Spartzy: *quits the game*

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:35 pm

Go Unibot. GO!!!

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Postby SunRawr » Tue Jan 03, 2012 7:28 pm

Belschaft wrote:In the politest way possible, who the bloody hell is Jakker? Maybe I should declare a personal contest between myself and Halcones. That would seem to be the equivalent of this to me.

Psh. Jakker is amazing. He is Field Marshal in TBH, an awesome planner, and a fantastic raider. Maybe you haven't heard of him yet, but soon you will be wishing he had never been born.

Besides, Halc isn't around.

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Postby Harmoneia » Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:38 pm

Casl wrote:And stargate has no history?

Are you f**king kidding me? The region is ancient....


I'm sorry, by history I meant substantial history. Could be ancient but people still wouldn't care about it.
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