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[The Infamous Glare]

While doing a dumpster dive through the Wayback Machine (as one does) I found a snapshot of the Pacific from May 2, 2003, when Infernolce was delegate. The WFE simply says to endorse Infernolce and links to some kind of bizarre "National Stalinist" website as the forum.

In case anyone cares.

I did read an old forum that mentioned 'Savage Lands' and InfernoIce, dating back to 2003.

[Tinhampton]

While scrolling back through one of my puppet's telegrams a few months ago, I found the following from Balder's then-Queen tagged region:Balder, -tag:wa from the morning of 29th November 2018:

Your home has been threatened 112 !

Some of the meanest nations have threatened our region! If you want to keep Balder safe, we need you to join the World Assembly here: page=un and endorse Solorni. These people would take over the region and torture us for fun… so do your part to keep our home safe!

Links to do so:

1. page=un
2. Endorse: Solorni

Thank you!
-Rachel of Solorni
PS: Feel free to join our discord: https://discord.gg/jMbqRDj

(The Discord invite linked above is now invalid.)

Is there any evidence, other than this telegram, that anybody was plotting to "take over [Balder] and torture [its residents] for fun" towards the end of Solorni's term as Queen of Balder?

[The Python]

What's a tl;dr behind the history of Jethnea and Equinox?

[Fauxia]

While scrolling back through one of my puppet's telegrams a few months ago, I found the following from Balder's then-Queen tagged region:Balder, -tag:wa from the morning of 29th November 2018:

Your home has been threatened 112 !

Some of the meanest nations have threatened our region! If you want to keep Balder safe, we need you to join the World Assembly here: page=un and endorse . These people would take over the region and torture us for fun… so do your part to keep our home safe!

Links to do so:

1. page=un
2. Endorse:

Thank you!
PS: Feel free to join our discord: https://discord.gg/jMbqRDj

(The Discord invite linked above is now invalid.)

Is there any evidence, other than this telegram, that anybody was plotting to "take over [Balder] and torture [its residents] for fun" towards the end of term as Queen of Balder?

Removed a few choice words from your post.

I have no idea, but it was probably just people being cranky on the forums. That was definitely how often worked as Delegate of Balder.

[Bormiar]

Is there any evidence, other than this telegram, that anybody was plotting to "take over [Balder] and torture [its residents] for fun" towards the end of Solorni's term as Queen of Balder?

Nothing on their RMB, but I've found this:

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=453333

That was also around the Balder After Dark time: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=452778&hilit=Balder

Thirdly, this was just days after termination of relations with the NPO, though I can't see how that would affect it.

Lastly, there was a nation called New Balder Order created around that time, though I can't find anything about it.

[Daytime to Night]

What's a tl;dr behind the history of Jethnea and Equinox?

If you don't know, Equinox was/is built around a guild system where every citizen joins a guild and each guild within the region can have its own identity/structure/military alignment etc. It brought together a lot of people from different corners of the game and was a very successful concept.

Jethnea was a historical defender region who helped found the FRA and was the home of many experienced gameplayers. It was in a fairly quiet/dormant state in 2009ish and decided to become a guild within Equinox as well as remaining a region in its own right, which worked as a means of increasing activity and reigniting the community there.

[Laka Strolistandiler]

Can anyone basically summarize the whole IDSF controversy for me? Please?

[Aerlanica]

Ok, can someone tell me what the hell the August Alliance's history is? and if they're liked or hated by the NS community. Because I joined one of their regions and haven't really left ever since.

[Unibot III]

While doing a dumpster dive through the Wayback Machine (as one does) I found a snapshot of the Pacific from May 2, 2003, when Infernolce was delegate. The WFE simply says to endorse Infernolce and links to some kind of bizarre "National Stalinist" website as the forum.

In case anyone cares.

I did read an old forum that mentioned 'Savage Lands' and InfernoIce, dating back to 2003.

The National Stalinist “0_0” spammer was an infamous spammer. That WFE was spam left over by them. The spammer would take GCRs and other regions by multi’ ing. I don’t have any reason to think InfernoIce & the Spammer were connected.

Here’s my list of the Pacific delegates...
viewtopic.php?p=35074061#p35074061

It’s the most complete list I know. The Spammer probably took the delegacy briefly in May 2003 before the Wayback Archive capture.

[Comfed]

I did read an old forum that mentioned 'Savage Lands' and InfernoIce, dating back to 2003.

The National Stalinist “0_0” spammer was an infamous spammer. That WFE was spam left over by them. The spammer would take GCRs and other regions by multi’ ing. I don’t have any reason to think InfernoIce & the Spammer were connected.

Here’s my list of the Pacific delegates...
viewtopic.php?p=35074061#p35074061

It’s the most complete list I know. The Spammer probably took the delegacy briefly in May 2003 before the Wayback Archive capture.

That’s good
That WFE seemed low-effort even for a 2003 delegate.

[Unibot III]

The National Stalinist “0_0” spammer was an infamous spammer. That WFE was spam left over by them. The spammer would take GCRs and other regions by multi’ ing. I don’t have any reason to think InfernoIce & the Spammer were connected.

Here’s my list of the Pacific delegates...
viewtopic.php?p=35074061#p35074061

It’s the most complete list I know. The Spammer probably took the delegacy briefly in May 2003 before the Wayback Archive capture.

That’s good
That WFE seemed low-effort even for a 2003 delegate.

It’s also extremely 2003 to get spammed and just lazily leave up the spam on the WFE.

If my memory serves me correctly, people were upset in the RMB that InfernoIce wasn’t updating the WFE and considered it another knock against his “tyrannical” reign.

[Pierconium]

I did read an old forum that mentioned 'Savage Lands' and InfernoIce, dating back to 2003.

The National Stalinist “0_0” spammer was an infamous spammer. That WFE was spam left over by them. The spammer would take GCRs and other regions by multi’ ing. I don’t have any reason to think InfernoIce & the Spammer were connected.

Here’s my list of the Pacific delegates...
viewtopic.php?p=35074061#p35074061

It’s the most complete list I know. The Spammer probably took the delegacy briefly in May 2003 before the Wayback Archive capture.

It is still missing a short stint by myself as Del in late-2007/early-2008.

InfernoIce was the alter ego of someone else that was active before and would be in the Senate again much later. (Not my story to tell.) He didn’t really care about the WFE because at that point it wasn’t even clear that the NPO would survive to establish itself as a power in the Pacific as the rest of the NS world was gearing up for ‘war’ against it. Chaos reigned supreme for a while.

[Unibot III]

The National Stalinist “0_0” spammer was an infamous spammer. That WFE was spam left over by them. The spammer would take GCRs and other regions by multi’ ing. I don’t have any reason to think InfernoIce & the Spammer were connected.

Here’s my list of the Pacific delegates...
viewtopic.php?p=35074061#p35074061

It’s the most complete list I know. The Spammer probably took the delegacy briefly in May 2003 before the Wayback Archive capture.

It is still missing a short stint by myself as Del in late-2007/early-2008.

InfernoIce was the alter ego of someone else that was active before and would be in the Senate again much later. (Not my story to tell.) He didn’t really care about the WFE because at that point it wasn’t even clear that the NPO would survive to establish itself as a power in the Pacific as the rest of the NS world was gearing up for ‘war’ against it. Chaos reigned supreme for a while.

Just to clarify for folks, the spam was from InfernoIce’s first term as TP delegate which predates NPO by several months. Ivan is referencing InfernoIce’s very brief second stint as delegate just after FS’s coup.

Oddly enough the rumour was TAO was InfernoIce, but I think TAO himself said this wasn’t true. I would wager a guess that InfernoIce joined NS from Fark.com, given his early involvement in the NPO coup. Or alternatively, a leftist connected with USSR.

[Pierconium]

It is still missing a short stint by myself as Del in late-2007/early-2008.

InfernoIce was the alter ego of someone else that was active before and would be in the Senate again much later. (Not my story to tell.) He didn’t really care about the WFE because at that point it wasn’t even clear that the NPO would survive to establish itself as a power in the Pacific as the rest of the NS world was gearing up for ‘war’ against it. Chaos reigned supreme for a while.

Just to clarify for folks, the spam was from InfernoIce’s first term as TP delegate which predates NPO by several months. Ivan is referencing InfernoIce’s very brief second stint as delegate just after FS’s coup.

Oddly enough the rumour was TAO was InfernoIce, but I think TAO himself said this wasn’t true. I would wager a guess that InfernoIce joined NS from Fark.com, given his early involvement in the NPO coup. Or alternatively, a leftist connected with USSR.

No, it wasn’t TAO.

And yes, you are correct, I was referencing the second. But even before the NPO it was chaos in the Pacific. TheDoc had some friends in some other regions that were very vocal but he didn’t have a ‘government’ structure that could be looked at as stable. Pacific Army could have taken that role but Savage Lands wasn’t interested in playing nice.

[Comfed]

I doubt this question can be answered, but who voted for and against “Fight the Axis of Evil”?

[The Python]

What's a tl;dr behind the history of Jethnea and Equinox?

Can my question be answered?

[Moonfungus]

What's a tl;dr behind the history of Jethnea and Equinox?

Can my question be answered?

Already was ;

If you don't know, Equinox was/is built around a guild system where every citizen joins a guild and each guild within the region can have its own identity/structure/military alignment etc. It brought together a lot of people from different corners of the game and was a very successful concept.

Jethnea was a historical defender region who helped found the FRA and was the home of many experienced gameplayers. It was in a fairly quiet/dormant state in 2009ish and decided to become a guild within Equinox as well as remaining a region in its own right, which worked as a means of increasing activity and reigniting the community there.

[Wabbitslayah]

What's a tl;dr behind the history of Jethnea and Equinox?

Jeth was founded by Harmoneia and Equinox was founded by Falconias. I have control of Jethnea now and Asy has control of Equinox now. Anything else?

[The Python]

Can my question be answered?

Already was ;

If you don't know, Equinox was/is built around a guild system where every citizen joins a guild and each guild within the region can have its own identity/structure/military alignment etc. It brought together a lot of people from different corners of the game and was a very successful concept.

Jethnea was a historical defender region who helped found the FRA and was the home of many experienced gameplayers. It was in a fairly quiet/dormant state in 2009ish and decided to become a guild within Equinox as well as remaining a region in its own right, which worked as a means of increasing activity and reigniting the community there.

Ope thanks moon I hadn't seen

[Shwe Tu Colony]

Is there a known reason behind the main roleplay forums being split between NationStates and International Incidents, or is it just something that's always been present with no explanation?

[Goobergunchia]

II is slightly newer than NS -- it was created in the spring of 2003, I believe -- but I don't remember exactly why it was split off (it does slightly predate my nation). Something about wanting to enforce roleplay etiquette, maybe?

[Reploid Productions]

II is slightly newer than NS -- it was created in the spring of 2003, I believe -- but I don't remember exactly why it was split off (it does slightly predate my nation). Something about wanting to enforce roleplay etiquette, maybe?

Kinda sorta, though lacking any clear guidance from higher up, it loosely evolved more into "NS = character based stuff/II = more conflict-driven", though even those aren't so much absolutes.

Huh. I wonder if it'd be worth getting a discussion going about mashing NS and II back into one "NS based RPs" forum again?

[Shwe Tu Colony]

Huh. I wonder if it'd be worth getting a discussion going about mashing NS and II back into one "NS based RPs" forum again?

There's a question every now and then for "hey is this thread better in II or NS?" I don't think it'd be that grave of a change for the II/NS community to share a forum — the main complaints I'd expect are war-only people being annoyed at the influx of party threads and vice versa, though a quick look at recent II/NS posts generally seems to indicate that there's a decently clear contrast between titles — but I'd expect opposition only because of the potential of changing something that's been integral to the forums for years. Wouldn't expect anyone to flat-out leave because of it, but it'd be something to get used to and would probably lead to flak, as with any other change. I also did try to look up to see if there're forum tags and the like, but I only found third party options and I'm not about to seriously suggest those.
Me personally, I'd say yes, but I'm not representative of any community, so I've not much bearing on my stance.

[Crazy girl]

Might be a question best posted/asked in the relevant forums

[The Infamous Glare]

Is there any information I could look into for the RLA?