Sail Nation wrote:Flanderlion wrote:Leadership lost interest in the game, but keeps the stamps going to hurt TBH (small investment, infinite salt from TBH and co).
Interesting investment of resources into a game that they don't really play anymore.
The reason why I was asking was that if I can remember correctly, The Invaders are the spiritual successors to TBR and DEN. That means that the line of controversial/rule breaking regions has effectively 'died out', although it keeps going under the guise of an active raider region, and the only people that notice it are knowledgeable gameplayers, those who looked into it by checking their jump point and WA nations, and those who saw them go inactive.
I do think I remember getting a recruitment TG for them on one of my nations, can't remember which one.
The Invaders 1.0 started in 2004 with a merger of three raiding organizations. They raided in tandem with den for a year or two. The original invaders then made the (wise) choice of leaving the game right around the time of influence starting, if memory serves me. Good people, lost due to those crutches given to the terrible defenders of the time. They complained so loudly about “natives” the admin literally got ill and created influence to punish all of raiderdom.
TBR came much later and had the core people behind the tag raiding program scandal. I never wasted my time tag raiding as I find its goals to be rather unlofty, and its application exceedingly tedious. Same with the Den at the time, doing mostly the same things.
The Invaders 2.0 was supposed to be a return to real invading, which it was under Knots leadership. I was a placeholder for the “great return of gest” which was supposed to be a good thing. However no raids were ever led under his leadership, and yes, the recruitment telegrams are rather designed to deny other orgs membership than to actually grow the org currently. There unsurprisingly is bad blood between gest and certain members of tbh.
For a time 2.0 was decent, active, and completely ignored the rest of nationstates politics which made it great to be part of again. However, the political leech-like behavior of some spies ultimately destroyed the officer corps activity and led to the essential death of the org in late 2017.
That, and constant moralization of the original flag from 2004 got tiring. Those forum posts are likely still available should you care enough to view them.