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Postby Bears Armed » Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:15 am

Bormiar wrote:
Todd McCloud wrote:I *believe* it was The East Pacific in 2004-2005. The very first map was maintained by 1Infinite Loop, and it looked like a map of Southeast Asia.

The Bruce wrote:In the case of Blarney Castle you had a region where someone had put a lot of work into the regional community, including an elaborate map.

It seems it dates back much farther than that. When it's so early on in NS history, it's probably impossible to tell what the first was.

Edit: just remembered this early one too.

I know regions like Mercia and the Heartland also had early maps, and I suspect Wysteria and Texas did too.

International Democratic Union already had one by the summer of 2005 (when i joined NS), as well.
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Postby Unibot III » Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:37 am

The Pharcyde wrote:According to this family tree, Carta, Mahaj, and Cormac were once NS siblings. I assume it was retconned years ago.

What are some other familial ties that are hard to imagine or funny in retrospect?


I believe Carta and Mahaj were half-brothers with some descending from my first marriage with Harm and the other, Earth. While Cormac was the adopted child of me and Earth. (I had to look it up, yuck.)

All of us were apart of the Locksley clan via the UDL. (As in Robin of Locksley.) Carta (Milograd), Mahaj, and Cormac were all lieutenants in the UDL - Milograd was a Chief Lieutenant at one point and Mahaj, Chief of the Band. As key members of the UDL, they had an option to take the Locksley name. At the time, family names and NS marriages were popular and in vogue, so the UDL followed suit and introduced a family clan. Because Earth (then Pharaoh of Osiris) was the matriarch of the Locksley line, it was tied closely with Osiris and (incidentally) the Rahls and the Starks.

Rahls take their name from the Sword of Truth series, Starks take their name from the Game of Thrones series.

The Locksley name was not particularly successful, certainly not like the Anumia's or the Rahl's, in part because nobody was seriously about it. Locksleys did over the course of their activity, marry between the Starks, the Romefellers, Anumias, and Vittoria's though (especially after Spartz, my "NS twin brother", defected to TBH and married an invader related to the imperialists - complicating the family line). The Locksley family stemmed from a joke that Carta and Solm were Harmie's children. I married twice but later turned against the practice of NS marriages altogether, arguing in a Rejected Times editorial that it socialized harassment.
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Postby The Pharcyde » Fri Jan 03, 2020 4:30 pm

Todd McCloud wrote:
Sargon Reman wrote:Does anyone know when the first regional map was created? If so, do you know by whom?

Thanks!

I *believe* it was The East Pacific in 2004-2005. The very first map was maintained by 1Infinite Loop, and it looked like a map of Southeast Asia.

Haven definitely had a map before that.

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Postby Block II » Fri Jan 03, 2020 7:46 pm

Ha, I remember being Spartz’s and Tramiar’s son alongside Mall and Rawr, as a Locksley.

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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:01 am

Block II wrote:Ha, I remember being Spartz’s and Tramiar’s son alongside Mall and Rawr, as a Locksley.

Spartz had by his own choice ceased to be a Locksley by then and had adopted the name Isaraider. You were never a Locksley.
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Postby Unibot III » Sat Jan 04, 2020 9:09 am

Cormactopia Prime wrote:
Block II wrote:Ha, I remember being Spartz’s and Tramiar’s son alongside Mall and Rawr, as a Locksley.

Spartz had by his own choice ceased to be a Locksley by then and had adopted the name Isaraider. You were never a Locksley.


That makes me the estranged uncle of ill repute. :(

Spartz and I identified as twin brothers because we were founded on the same date in NS.

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This led to a joke that Spartz was the younger twin brother.
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Postby Wabbitslayah » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:18 pm

Unibot III wrote:
Cormactopia Prime wrote:Spartz had by his own choice ceased to be a Locksley by then and had adopted the name Isaraider. You were never a Locksley.


That makes me the estranged uncle of ill repute. :(

Spartz and I identified as twin brothers because we were founded on the same date in NS.

Unibot: Sun May 25, 2008 4:53 pm
Spartzerina: Sun May 25, 2008 11:00 pm


This led to a joke that Spartz was the younger twin brother.

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Postby Severisen » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:35 pm

Cormactopia Prime wrote:
Block II wrote:Ha, I remember being Spartz’s and Tramiar’s son alongside Mall and Rawr, as a Locksley.

Spartz had by his own choice ceased to be a Locksley by then and had adopted the name Isaraider. You were never a Locksley.


Isaraider came after that, and by that time Block wasn't listed as part of the family. When I came around in 2012, it was Mall, Rawr, Talisi and Myself, I believe. We also included Jakker after that.
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Postby Evil Cub » Sat Jan 04, 2020 7:05 pm

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Postby Darkesia » Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:55 pm

Logic would say he was part of your Mother's Pack. But this is NS and logic does not apply. When you find your Dad you will just have to ask him.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:23 am

Unibot III wrote:
The Pharcyde wrote:According to this family tree, Carta, Mahaj, and Cormac were once NS siblings. I assume it was retconned years ago.

What are some other familial ties that are hard to imagine or funny in retrospect?


I believe Carta and Mahaj were half-brothers with some descending from my first marriage with Harm and the other, Earth. While Cormac was the adopted child of me and Earth. (I had to look it up, yuck.)

All of us were apart of the Locksley clan via the UDL. (As in Robin of Locksley.) Carta (Milograd), Mahaj, and Cormac were all lieutenants in the UDL - Milograd was a Chief Lieutenant at one point and Mahaj, Chief of the Band. As key members of the UDL, they had an option to take the Locksley name. At the time, family names and NS marriages were popular and in vogue, so the UDL followed suit and introduced a family clan. Because Earth (then Pharaoh of Osiris) was the matriarch of the Locksley line, it was tied closely with Osiris and (incidentally) the Rahls and the Starks.

Rahls take their name from the Sword of Truth series, Starks take their name from the Game of Thrones series.

The Locksley name was not particularly successful, certainly not like the Anumia's or the Rahl's, in part because nobody was seriously about it. Locksleys did over the course of their activity, marry between the Starks, the Romefellers, Anumias, and Vittoria's though (especially after Spartz, my "NS twin brother", defected to TBH and married an invader related to the imperialists - complicating the family line). The Locksley family stemmed from a joke that Carta and Solm were Harmie's children. I married twice but later turned against the practice of NS marriages altogether, arguing in a Rejected Times editorial that it socialized harassment.


Never been a part of this my self.

Then again, even for NS marriages, marrying an animal is kind of whacky.

That said, I am old style, and don't see these RP marriages as a part of gameplay :p
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Postby Lord Dominator » Mon Jan 13, 2020 8:46 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:Then again, even for NS marriages, marrying an animal is kind of whacky.

I have it on good authority the goat got hitched ;)
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:15 am

Haha, yeah, NS marriages, they were super weird. Definitely stayed far away from those.
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Postby Lexon » Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:36 am

Was Fedele someone from the NPO?

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Postby Xoriet » Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:36 am

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:Haha, yeah, NS marriages, they were super weird. Definitely stayed far away from those.

He says with the longest running NS marriage in the game. ;)

Lexon wrote:Was Fedele someone from the NPO?

No. Fedele/Scardino was LWU first, then Osiris, then TEP. He hasn’t been NPO.
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Postby Bormiar » Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:58 am

Lexon wrote:Was Fedele someone from the NPO?

Why were you thinking NPO?
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Postby Syberis » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:35 am

Xoriet wrote:
Klaus Devestatorie wrote:Haha, yeah, NS marriages, they were super weird. Definitely stayed far away from those.

He says with the longest running NS marriage in the game. ;)

Lexon wrote:Was Fedele someone from the NPO?

No. Fedele/Scardino was LWU first, then Osiris, then TEP. He hasn’t been NPO.


People asking if a confirmed troublemaker is NPO? Of course the NPO denies it :P

But can confirm, Scar was never NPO.
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Postby Wayneactia » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:36 am

Bormiar wrote:
Lexon wrote:Was Fedele someone from the NPO?

Why were you thinking NPO?

You know all the big wigs are actually secret members of the NPO right? The NPO is the NS version of the Stonecutters. There ya go Ivan, the secret is out.

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Postby Xoriet » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:37 am

Wayneactia wrote:
Bormiar wrote:Why were you thinking NPO?

You know all the big wigs are actually secret members of the NPO right? The NPO is the NS version of the Stonecutters. There ya go Ivan, the secret is out.

Well, technically TEP is the one with the Freemason logo. ;)
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Postby Syberis » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:42 am

Wayneactia wrote:
Bormiar wrote:Why were you thinking NPO?

You know all the big wigs are actually secret members of the NPO right? The NPO is the NS version of the Stonecutters. There ya go Ivan, the secret is out.


Does that make them now the The Ancient Mystic Society of No Pergamons?
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Postby Lexon » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:54 am

Bormiar wrote:
Lexon wrote:Was Fedele someone from the NPO?

Why were you thinking NPO?

Flag.

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Postby Xoriet » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:13 am

Lexon wrote:
Bormiar wrote:Why were you thinking NPO?

Flag.

He only used that flag because he was trying to bait a reaction out of NSGP. He was never NPO.
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Postby Darkesia » Tue Jan 14, 2020 7:47 am

NS marriages give me the heebee jeebees. It just feels wrong. Seems like a "gateway" to some of the difficulties we have in the off-site world. I get it, if you are RPing some sort of Royal stuff, but even that generally leads to some deviant abusing it OOC. No thanks!
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Postby The Church of Satan » Tue Jan 14, 2020 9:06 am

Syberis wrote:Does that make them now the The Ancient Mystic Society of No Pergamons?

There was a magic puppet nation, founded by NPO mystics to prevent us from learning the truth.
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Postby Numero Capitan » Tue Jan 14, 2020 12:36 pm

Darkesia wrote:NS marriages give me the heebee jeebees. It just feels wrong. Seems like a "gateway" to some of the difficulties we have in the off-site world. I get it, if you are RPing some sort of Royal stuff, but even that generally leads to some deviant abusing it OOC. No thanks!


This, it doesn't even make sense in RP terms, if you want to connect your nations leaders family tree with another nation then RP it properly in third person and take the uncomfortable IC/OOC hybrid stuff out of it.
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