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Postby Eluvatar » Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:41 am

Zaolat wrote:You used the toaster for Osiris didn't you? I can't remember.

Yes and no.

The Toaster I developed in 2006-2008 was a mess of PHP/MySQL that I started coding after reading a library book on PHP and MySQL each, and I called it Toaster 1. By the day of Osiris, circa 2011-2012, I was developing Toaster 2, a Ruby on Rails application. Gulliver helped with it, too.

Just to be confusing, the recruitment and citizenship management application written in python that Taijitu used circa 2014-2016 was not Toaster 3 but "civics" (and was more Gulliver's work than mine, I'd judge).
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Postby Christian Confederation » Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:52 am

So did my failed war on antifa do anything?

As far as I've heard it scared them when we grew fast but not much else.
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Postby Kavagrad » Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:17 am

Christian Confederation wrote:So did my failed war on antifa do anything?

As far as I've heard it scared them when we grew fast but not much else.

You heard wrong. You couldn't even manage that.

Gave us a lot of material to mock, though. That's very much appreciated.
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Postby Christian Confederation » Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:57 am

Kavagrad wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:So did my failed war on antifa do anything?

As far as I've heard it scared them when we grew fast but not much else.

You heard wrong. You couldn't even manage that.

Gave us a lot of material to mock, though. That's very much appreciated.

Tell that to our man on the inside
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Postby Zaolat » Wed Mar 20, 2019 9:05 am

Eluvatar wrote:
Zaolat wrote:You used the toaster for Osiris didn't you? I can't remember.

Yes and no.

The Toaster I developed in 2006-2008 was a mess of PHP/MySQL that I started coding after reading a library book on PHP and MySQL each, and I called it Toaster 1. By the day of Osiris, circa 2011-2012, I was developing Toaster 2, a Ruby on Rails application. Gulliver helped with it, too.

Just to be confusing, the recruitment and citizenship management application written in python that Taijitu used circa 2014-2016 was not Toaster 3 but "civics" (and was more Gulliver's work than mine, I'd judge).

Hmm, maybe it was something r3n cooked up instead. On a side note, I miss Gulliver and wast. :(
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Postby Kavagrad » Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:59 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:
Kavagrad wrote:You heard wrong. You couldn't even manage that.

Gave us a lot of material to mock, though. That's very much appreciated.

Tell that to our man on the inside

Lol
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Postby Christian Confederation » Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:08 pm

Kavagrad wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:Tell that to our man on the inside

Lol

You will lol when y'all are brought down
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:19 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:
Kavagrad wrote:Lol

You will lol when y'all are brought down

Take it elsewhere.
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Postby Of crazed » Wed Mar 20, 2019 5:46 pm

Eluvatar wrote:. The region was "neutral" in the sense that it didn't profess invader or defender ideology, but in reality the Taijitu Army of the day worked exclusively with invaders like Evil Wolf, Meridianland, and Of Crazed.


Can't tell if I should be mad that I'm the third billing or happy because I am the headliner.

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Postby Lord Dominator » Wed Mar 20, 2019 6:13 pm

Of crazed wrote:
Eluvatar wrote:. The region was "neutral" in the sense that it didn't profess invader or defender ideology, but in reality the Taijitu Army of the day worked exclusively with invaders like Evil Wolf, Meridianland, and Of Crazed.


Can't tell if I should be mad that I'm the third billing or happy because I am the headliner.

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Postby Evil Wolf » Wed Mar 20, 2019 7:49 pm

Of crazed wrote:
Eluvatar wrote:. The region was "neutral" in the sense that it didn't profess invader or defender ideology, but in reality the Taijitu Army of the day worked exclusively with invaders like Evil Wolf, Meridianland, and Of Crazed.


Can't tell if I should be mad that I'm the third billing or happy because I am the headliner.


It's because I'm much more famous than you are. ;)

Also, DEN class of 2005 representing, apparently.
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Postby Eluvatar » Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:29 pm

Alphabetical order.
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Postby Of crazed » Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:11 pm

Eluvatar wrote:Alphabetical order.

Hahaha, you're still the best

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Postby Marilyn Manson Freaks » Sat Apr 13, 2019 11:04 am

By pure accident, I discovered that Jell-O, the pre-Francos Delegate of the Pacific that Unibot found out about, was an ACC soldier. Myrth posted this on the ACC Proboards forum. There is still fact-checking to do, however, I'm confident that Myrth wasn't lying or something. :P
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Postby Unibot III » Sat Apr 13, 2019 4:09 pm

Marilyn Manson Freaks wrote:By pure accident, I discovered that Jell-O, the pre-Francos Delegate of the Pacific that Unibot found out about, was an ACC soldier. Myrth posted this on the ACC Proboards forum. There is still fact-checking to do, however, I'm confident that Myrth was lying or something. :P


Yes I found that and cited it in Anatomy of the Coup III. I’m thinking it was an unauthorized mission - AA had a lot of newbies getting in trouble on AA’s behalf abroad.
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Postby The Pharcyde » Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:05 pm

Unibot III wrote:
Marilyn Manson Freaks wrote:By pure accident, I discovered that Jell-O, the pre-Francos Delegate of the Pacific that Unibot found out about, was an ACC soldier. Myrth posted this on the ACC Proboards forum. There is still fact-checking to do, however, I'm confident that Myrth was lying or something. :P


Yes I found that and cited it in Anatomy of the Coup III. I’m thinking it was an unauthorized mission - AA had a lot of newbies getting in trouble on AA’s behalf abroad.

Nothing worse than danged newbies taking the Pacific delegacy without authorization.
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Postby Bormiar » Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:48 pm

What was the Okhrana? Was it roleplay?

If it wasn't roleplay, could you tell me a bit about it? Who supported it? What was the motive?

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Postby The Church of Satan » Fri Apr 26, 2019 3:43 pm

Bormiar wrote:What was the Okhrana? Was it roleplay?

If it wasn't roleplay, could you tell me a bit about it? Who supported it? What was the motive?

Assuming the draft of Pierconium's condemnation is accurate, it was a widespread spy network in gameplay that operated for years. Beyond that I haven't the slightest clue but I'm sure there are others that can better answer your question.
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Postby Bormiar » Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:01 pm

The Church of Satan wrote:
Bormiar wrote:What was the Okhrana? Was it roleplay?

If it wasn't roleplay, could you tell me a bit about it? Who supported it? What was the motive?

Assuming the draft of Pierconium's condemnation is accurate, it was a widespread spy network in gameplay that operated for years. Beyond that I haven't the slightest clue but I'm sure there are others that can better answer your question.

That's where I saw it. It got me curious on what I spy network acts as and how it affected gameplay.

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Postby Valentine Z » Thu May 02, 2019 8:39 pm

The weird-ass question from yours truly strikes again! :lol:

Has there been a point in NS where someone took "Rules Lawyering" too seriously? Like... they were told off in Moderation that they are trying to rules lawyer, so they actually hired an actual lawyer just to prove their point?
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Postby Reploid Productions » Fri May 03, 2019 12:00 am

Valentine Z wrote:The weird-ass question from yours truly strikes again! :lol:

Has there been a point in NS where someone took "Rules Lawyering" too seriously? Like... they were told off in Moderation that they are trying to rules lawyer, so they actually hired an actual lawyer just to prove their point?

No actual lawyers, but plenty of "GIMME MY NATION/WA BACK OR I'MMA SUE YOOOOU!" flavor nonsense. :P
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Postby Valentine Z » Fri May 03, 2019 4:28 am

Reploid Productions wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:The weird-ass question from yours truly strikes again! :lol:

Has there been a point in NS where someone took "Rules Lawyering" too seriously? Like... they were told off in Moderation that they are trying to rules lawyer, so they actually hired an actual lawyer just to prove their point?

No actual lawyers, but plenty of "GIMME MY NATION/WA BACK OR I'MMA SUE YOOOOU!" flavor nonsense. :P


Heh, now I'm reminded of that Weird Al song.

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Postby The Notorious Mad Jack » Fri May 03, 2019 6:22 am

Reploid Productions wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:The weird-ass question from yours truly strikes again! :lol:

Has there been a point in NS where someone took "Rules Lawyering" too seriously? Like... they were told off in Moderation that they are trying to rules lawyer, so they actually hired an actual lawyer just to prove their point?

No actual lawyers, but plenty of "GIMME MY NATION/WA BACK OR I'MMA SUE YOOOOU!" flavor nonsense. :P

There were threats of legal action during the HAXXOR April Fools joke as well, if I recall correctly.
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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Mon Jul 22, 2019 7:03 am

This one's a real old school GA question, that might not have an answer. I got a TG praising my clever use of "Real Life" cited as a computer/video game. I disclaimed ownership, as obviously I didn't invent the trope of Earth history and human life as an MMORPG / RTS. But someone had to, yes? The first player I recall using it is Separatist Peoples, who claims it was old hat when he first showed up. Any GA old-timers have a notion who might have invented this?
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Postby Unibot III » Mon Jul 22, 2019 4:45 pm

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:This one's a real old school GA question, that might not have an answer. I got a TG praising my clever use of "Real Life" cited as a computer/video game. I disclaimed ownership, as obviously I didn't invent the trope of Earth history and human life as an MMORPG / RTS. But someone had to, yes? The first player I recall using it is Separatist Peoples, who claims it was old hat when he first showed up. Any GA old-timers have a notion who might have invented this?


Truth be told I don't remember this tradition from my time in the hallowed halls at all, so I'm wondering if it's not very new?

It could be a Kennyism or Yeldaism, but it sounds to me more like something Goobergunchia might have popularized if he had.

I will poke Yelda and see if he has an answer for you.

UPDATE: Yelda says he will check with Kenny. "I really don't remember who started that but it was in use certainly by 05/06." Yelda added the trademark to Real Life TM - his signature move. ;)
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