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[Myrth]

Who were the first mods?

Feoras, [mantle] and Amerigo were the earliest forum mods. Reppie joined them not long after.

[The Blaatschapen]

Also, I'm guessing the Pacific on the test server was made as described by others from the mod team outside of Sedge. I wasn't necessarily speaking about him directly.

When in doubt, blame Sedge.

I also do that when not in doubt

[Reploid Productions]

Who were the first mods?

Feoras, [mantle] and Amerigo were the earliest forum mods. Reppie joined them not long after.

[mantle] actually predates the rest of the team by a decent margin, though I don't think I ever recall seeing [mantle] ever actually online, much less ever do anything. Feoras (I believe better known at the time as Demoness), Menelmacar, and Melkor Unchained where in the first batch. Pretty sure Amerigo (a land of contrast!) was in my batch along with Neutered Sputniks and a couple others a couple weeks later.

Damn, we really should have tried to keep actual records on that sort of thing. The wild and untamed early days of NS moderation circa 2003 have long since kinda run together in my memory. ^^;

[Socio Polor]

Feoras, [mantle] and Amerigo were the earliest forum mods. Reppie joined them not long after.

[mantle] actually predates the rest of the team by a decent margin, though I don't think I ever recall seeing [mantle] ever actually online, much less ever do anything. Feoras (I believe better known at the time as Demoness), Menelmacar, and Melkor Unchained where in the first batch. Pretty sure Amerigo (a land of contrast!) was in my batch along with Neutered Sputniks and a couple others a couple weeks later.

Damn, we really should have tried to keep actual records on that sort of thing. The wild and untamed early days of NS moderation circa 2003 have long since kinda run together in my memory. ^^;

It says in your sig Reppie you became a forum mod on May 8, 2003. That means you been on the team for almost 14 years now. Talk about dedication of long service

[Myrth]

Feoras, [mantle] and Amerigo were the earliest forum mods. Reppie joined them not long after.

[mantle] actually predates the rest of the team by a decent margin, though I don't think I ever recall seeing [mantle] ever actually online, much less ever do anything. Feoras (I believe better known at the time as Demoness), Menelmacar, and Melkor Unchained where in the first batch. Pretty sure Amerigo (a land of contrast!) was in my batch along with Neutered Sputniks and a couple others a couple weeks later.

Damn, we really should have tried to keep actual records on that sort of thing. The wild and untamed early days of NS moderation circa 2003 have long since kinda run together in my memory. ^^;

[mantle] was Grated Cheese, the delegate of Europe at the time. He disappeared on us in very early 03. Of course, back then the server was so overloaded the forums rarely even loaded. I feel like Ineptia, Scolo, Slaggy and TJHairball must have been in an early batch, too.

[Reploid Productions]

[mantle] actually predates the rest of the team by a decent margin, though I don't think I ever recall seeing [mantle] ever actually online, much less ever do anything. Feoras (I believe better known at the time as Demoness), Menelmacar, and Melkor Unchained where in the first batch. Pretty sure Amerigo (a land of contrast!) was in my batch along with Neutered Sputniks and a couple others a couple weeks later.

Damn, we really should have tried to keep actual records on that sort of thing. The wild and untamed early days of NS moderation circa 2003 have long since kinda run together in my memory. ^^;

[mantle] was Grated Cheese, the delegate of Europe at the time. Of course, back then the server was so overloaded the forums rarely even loaded. I feel like Ineptia, Scolo, Slaggy and TJHairball must have been in an early batch, too.

Yeah, I think they were in the group after me. Shit, who else was modded in the group I was in? Enodia was in there somewhere too. Possibly Hack or GMC?

[Myrth]

[mantle] was Grated Cheese, the delegate of Europe at the time. Of course, back then the server was so overloaded the forums rarely even loaded. I feel like Ineptia, Scolo, Slaggy and TJHairball must have been in an early batch, too.

Yeah, I think they were in the group after me. Shit, who else was modded in the group I was in? Enodia was in there somewhere too. Possibly Hack or GMC?

I'm not sure - GMC was later than Hack I think - perhaps along with Karma? Then Steph and Cog, and Sirocco a while later. Can't recall whether TG was before or after me.

[Stalker Queen]

[mantle] was Grated Cheese, the delegate of Europe at the time. He disappeared on us in very early 03. Of course, back then the server was so overloaded the forums rarely even loaded. I feel like Ineptia, Scolo, Slaggy and TJHairball must have been in an early batch, too.

As a brief note on TJHairball: I did some digging, and found forum names on the Jolt forums can be different to nation names. TJHairballs is actually Tahar Joblis from The Proletariat Coalition back in the day. The sources where 4chan (believe it or not) and Goobergunch's NSWiki, but it seems plausible enough given TaharJoblisHairball. Y'all golden oldies can probably confirm for me

[Frattastan II]

TJHairballs is actually Tahar Joblis from The Proletariat Coalition back in the day.

Correct.

[LollerLand]

Someone interviewed our creator? Can I get a link?

[Pierconium]

Someone interviewed our creator? Can I get a link?

The link is in the post you are quoting.

[LollerLand]

Someone interviewed our creator? Can I get a link?

The link is in the post you are quoting.

Oh oops! I feel stupid now xD

Edit: Wait, I can't find it in the links there?
Edit 2: Nevermind, found it after browsing through the UDL forum

[Unibot III]

The link is in the post you are quoting.

Oh oops! I feel stupid now xD

Edit: Wait, I can't find it in the links there?
Edit 2: Nevermind, found it after browsing through the UDL forum

It's Issue #1 of the Meritocracy Times, just to clarify. There are other Max Barry interviews but that's the only I know of that was player-initiated.

[Wisgothistan]

What is the COPS treaty?

[Unibot III]

What is the COPS treaty?

"The Convention on Off-Site Property Security treaty was first proposed and ratified by ACCEL and The West Pacific as a law strictly prohibiting forum destruction in response to Addarow's forum destruction of The Praetorian Empire's forum.

It is easily one of the most famous interregional laws in history of NationStates Gameplay."

Full text here: http://s4.zetaboards.com/UDL/topic/9710767/1/#new

It essentially mandates the blacklisting of people who destroy regional forums. It's quasi-enforced across a number of Gameplay regions.

[National Sovereignty]

I found this today. Thought I'd repost this here so it isn't lost to history forever.

Rejections, Regrets and Reconciliation
Fall out from the ACCEL's Rejection of the New Pacific Order
by Posul, Intermet/ACCEL News | Final Edition: Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:43 pm

The ACCEL in committee

In perhaps the most controversial and most watched acceptance vote in ACCEL History, the Directorate voted by 9-8 for that the Pacific should join the Alliance. This however, was not enough to make sure that the NPO could be accepted into the Alliance, and has caused a wave of jubilation and condemnation on what were rival camps over the course of this application. The whole Saga began at the end of last month (30th May) as the Senator of Intercontinental Incitement and Provocation Moo-cows with guns asked for the NPO to be accepted into the Alliance of Capitalists, Conservatives and Economic Libertarians after being invited by the Ambassador to the NPO from the ACCEL Scandinavian Duchies. This immediately caused joy amongst many members of the ACCEL with one remarking: "this shall be a great day for NPO and the ACCEL!". No doubt that official is eating those rather badly chosen words. At first however, the application was going to be set to be the most uncontroversial of them all, with all sides seeming to accept this as a great move for both the feeder and the organisation. Problems occurred soon after however, as many questioned whether the NPO was there for themselves or for the organisation. Many accusations were flown from both sides of the gulf and has caused a great deal of angry between a lot of regions as of late.

The Fall out of this rejection however has been felt immediately. Wegason, Chairman of the ACCEL put it:

QUOTE
After long consideration, much debate, for and against, the Directorate of ACCEL have voted 9 to 8 on their application, which is not at the required level to gain entry into the organisation, as they did not achieve two thirds majority from the voting Directors. This was a difficult decision for ACCEL and one that did not come about lightly. We welcome co-operation with the Pacific but the Directorate feel that it is not in our best interests of ACCEL to accept the Pacific into our alliance at the present time. We extend an invitation to any Pacificians who want to join ACCEL as national members, to do so.

ACC, Consul of the Meritocracy had this to say:

QUOTE
It is unfortunate that this had to happen the way it did seeing as ACCEL's relationship with The Pacific had been a good one. It was by far the hardest choice I have ever made and that probably goes for all of ACCEL as well. However, in the end, I don't believe ACCEL is ready quite yet to jump into feeder politics in any form.

The NPO has come out with fighting words however:

QUOTE
On behalf of Emperor Ivan Moldavi and the Pacific Senate, I am sure it comes as no surprise that the NPO is less than pleased with the outcome of the vote. While of course we would have liked to have been accepted, it is more the process that took place during our application period that disturbs us. The process was tainted by arguments and concerns being raised behind closed doors without those same issues being posed to us in our membership thread. The issue of feeder politics, a concern that was raised and cited as a reason for nay votes, was never addressed to us and never mentioned until the very end. We cannot help but feel that the process was disingenuous at best, and just incompetent at the very least. An invitation was extended, an invitation which we accepted in good faith. However, it is clear to us that good faith was lacking on the part of at least some ACCEL members. As such, at the behest of the Emperor, we have closed the ACCEL embassy in response to the lack of respect shown in the process.

This has really shaped the geo-political scene for months to come. Many questions have now been asked about this whole affair. Will the ACCEL break up due to the fall out between member regions? Has the power of the feeders waned to such a point that they cannot be accepted into an organisation such as the ACCEL? Will heads roll in the ACCEL after the shambolic way that this was carried out? Will the NPO isolate itself from all contact with the members of the ACCEL? All of these will be answered in the next few days no doubt.

[Indo-Malaysia]

What Major Operations have involved CAIN? I wanna make a little dispatch. Extra details would be nice too.

[Unibot III]

I found this today. Thought I'd repost this here so it isn't lost to history forever.

Rejections, Regrets and Reconciliation
Fall out from the ACCEL's Rejection of the New Pacific Order
by Posul, Intermet/ACCEL News | Final Edition: Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:43 pm

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The ACCEL in committee

In perhaps the most controversial and most watched acceptance vote in ACCEL History, the Directorate voted by 9-8 for that the Pacific should join the Alliance. This however, was not enough to make sure that the NPO could be accepted into the Alliance, and has caused a wave of jubilation and condemnation on what were rival camps over the course of this application. The whole Saga began at the end of last month (30th May) as the Senator of Intercontinental Incitement and Provocation Moo-cows with guns asked for the NPO to be accepted into the Alliance of Capitalists, Conservatives and Economic Libertarians after being invited by the Ambassador to the NPO from the ACCEL Scandinavian Duchies. This immediately caused joy amongst many members of the ACCEL with one remarking: "this shall be a great day for NPO and the ACCEL!". No doubt that official is eating those rather badly chosen words. At first however, the application was going to be set to be the most uncontroversial of them all, with all sides seeming to accept this as a great move for both the feeder and the organisation. Problems occurred soon after however, as many questioned whether the NPO was there for themselves or for the organisation. Many accusations were flown from both sides of the gulf and has caused a great deal of angry between a lot of regions as of late.

The Fall out of this rejection however has been felt immediately. Wegason, Chairman of the ACCEL put it:

QUOTE
After long consideration, much debate, for and against, the Directorate of ACCEL have voted 9 to 8 on their application, which is not at the required level to gain entry into the organisation, as they did not achieve two thirds majority from the voting Directors. This was a difficult decision for ACCEL and one that did not come about lightly. We welcome co-operation with the Pacific but the Directorate feel that it is not in our best interests of ACCEL to accept the Pacific into our alliance at the present time. We extend an invitation to any Pacificians who want to join ACCEL as national members, to do so.

ACC, Consul of the Meritocracy had this to say:

QUOTE
It is unfortunate that this had to happen the way it did seeing as ACCEL's relationship with The Pacific had been a good one. It was by far the hardest choice I have ever made and that probably goes for all of ACCEL as well. However, in the end, I don't believe ACCEL is ready quite yet to jump into feeder politics in any form.

The NPO has come out with fighting words however:

QUOTE
On behalf of Emperor Ivan Moldavi and the Pacific Senate, I am sure it comes as no surprise that the NPO is less than pleased with the outcome of the vote. While of course we would have liked to have been accepted, it is more the process that took place during our application period that disturbs us. The process was tainted by arguments and concerns being raised behind closed doors without those same issues being posed to us in our membership thread. The issue of feeder politics, a concern that was raised and cited as a reason for nay votes, was never addressed to us and never mentioned until the very end. We cannot help but feel that the process was disingenuous at best, and just incompetent at the very least. An invitation was extended, an invitation which we accepted in good faith. However, it is clear to us that good faith was lacking on the part of at least some ACCEL members. As such, at the behest of the Emperor, we have closed the ACCEL embassy in response to the lack of respect shown in the process.

This has really shaped the geo-political scene for months to come. Many questions have now been asked about this whole affair. Will the ACCEL break up due to the fall out between member regions? Has the power of the feeders waned to such a point that they cannot be accepted into an organisation such as the ACCEL? Will heads roll in the ACCEL after the shambolic way that this was carried out? Will the NPO isolate itself from all contact with the members of the ACCEL? All of these will be answered in the next few days no doubt.

That's awesome. ACCEL history isn't well mapped out. This is a chestnut, thank you!

[Emericia]

The Communist Bloc's Revolution. Exactly when did it occur, what lead to it and what was it like prior to the revolution?

[Cresenthia]

What Major Operations have involved CAIN? I wanna make a little dispatch. Extra details would be nice too.

FE and Super Reich I are the only ones I know of, but they did some tag raids I heard, and there are almost certainly others.

[Canton Empire]

What Major Operations have involved CAIN? I wanna make a little dispatch. Extra details would be nice too.

FE and Super Reich I are the only ones I know of, but they did some tag raids I heard, and there are almost certainly others.

I believe the NSIA raid

[Bedetopia]

What Major Operations have involved CAIN? I wanna make a little dispatch. Extra details would be nice too.

FE and Super Reich I are the only ones I know of, but they did some tag raids I heard, and there are almost certainly others.

I'm not sure Super Reich I was led by CAIN. I think it was the NPO who just asked them for more troops.

[Nakarisaune]

FE and Super Reich I are the only ones I know of, but they did some tag raids I heard, and there are almost certainly others.

I'm not sure Super Reich I was led by CAIN. I think it was the NPO who just asked them for more troops.

Super Reich I was led by Ruining Nazi Sandcastles, and Femdom Empire was led by TGW.

[The Bruce]

[mantle] was Grated Cheese, the delegate of Europe at the time. Of course, back then the server was so overloaded the forums rarely even loaded. I feel like Ineptia, Scolo, Slaggy and TJHairball must have been in an early batch, too.

Yeah, I think they were in the group after me. Shit, who else was modded in the group I was in? Enodia was in there somewhere too. Possibly Hack or GMC?

Ineptia was definitely in a later batch of Mods, as well as being the first delegate to be given the opportunity of becoming a founder, despite their region being founded long before founders existing. After that came the "Hey what about my region" movement, so as to not punish older regions for being older regions.

Mods of the early forum should have been prescribed medication to cope with slow loading times. Trying to actually keep up with a big, clunky forum with posts that sometimes take two minutes to load (if they even load at all) would drive anyone batty let alone someone attempting to moderate it. I'm honestly surprised any forum moderator was able to stay sane from that time period.

The state of the first NS forum was one of the main driving forces behind 3rd party regional forums, along with the timely introduction of Invisionfree forums.That and some of the other kids had regional forums and didn't you want to be like the cool kids too?

[United Provinces of Atlantica]

Does anyone know what the four original Mandates of Lazarus were? The current Constitution is Mandate 10, the HRL Constitution was Mandate 9, the PRL Constitution was Mandate 8, the two Constitutions of the Emerald/Jade theme were Mandate 7and Mandate 6 (the original PRL forums serving as the forums for for the Mandate 7 era and these forums serving as the forums for the Mandate 6 era). Mandate 5 was the Constitution for the Undead theme; this was its forums and the oldest Lazarene forums I've located, with some early posts from late 2004. However, after that, the case runs cold. What were/happened for the original four Mandates and what were their forums?