NS History: You've Got Questions, We've Got Answers!

[Unibot III]

Except for modern members, weren't all of the founders old ADNers?

I do think the idea that ADN's Command largely drifted away from defenderdom into well... couping feeders, see Biyah, Westwind, Unistrut. However, it would be incorrect to say that The Empire was by any means exclusively ADN vets. Perhaps it's more that The Empire was influenced by The West Pacific, which The ADN also was associated with.

The original, publicly known members:

Neenee
Biyah
Dalimbar
Darth Zorn
Der Fuhrer Deizel
Whamabama
Ivan Moldavi
Enegro Montoya
Blue Wolf
Agamemnon
Westwind
New Kervoskia
yy4u

In that list you'll see shades of The West Pacific, Equilism, The North Pacific, ADN and RLA.

[Dalimbar]

The Empire was post-Crimson Order, when I was TNP Delegate. It would be more correct to say that most members of The Empire came from the Crimson Order.

While fair, and certainly more accurate than the assumption that all Empire leaders were ex-ADN (please, just no), one wing, the West Pacific wing if you will, had their "feeder couper" start in the West Pacific Dominion. One wing, which I came from, could be considered the North Pacific wing. I myself had couped TNP in summer of 2007, and assisted Lewis and Clark (as AGP/Westy went by there) in the Crimson Order. There were other affiliated members who by themselves did not coup feeders, but became valuable assets, both in the past and present. In the public perception of what "Empire" is, however, which is more often than not inaccurate about the behind the scenes, it's a loose grouping of individuals who formulate and implement strategic goals as the group sees fit. I feel it is more realpolitik than ideological, especially considering members are able to work with the multitudes of ideology in this sphere.

Unibot's list is sort of accurate, in terms of public members. I can not, however, go into further detail about others who have still not unmasked.

[Todd McCloud]

What was Fox Rite?

They were a prominent (I think?) raiding group way back when led by Todd McCloud. That's all I know on the subject, but I'll bug him to come in here and talk about it because I'm curious too

It was one of the stronger raider groups from 2006-2008. It formed from remnants of the National Slavic Alliance (an imperialist group) and a 1-2 people from back when the region Illuminati was organized. Rest arrived elsewhere. Anyway, they were usually around when there was a big raid. Back then the ones that stick out in my mind are the Feudal Japan raid, Hell, SFBA, a couple of coup attempts on two of the Pacifics, Soviet Union, and a bunch of others that I really can't remember anymore. It's written down somewhere. There was a code of honor they followed too. When the group disbanded, we began infitrating GCR's and large regions. Most took on different identities. I didn't because I'm unoriginal I guess. But, the group took kind of a fight club oath: we don't talk about it. Perhaps when we all retire, maybe. But for now, nah. Surprised it's lasted this long to be honest.

EDIT: if any of you are reading this, and you all know who you are, you'll note I've stayed 'within the bounds' in this reply. Feel free to check in if you're concerned, but you know me by now.

[Unibot III]

The Empire was post-Crimson Order, when I was TNP Delegate. It would be more correct to say that most members of The Empire came from the Crimson Order.

While fair, and certainly more accurate than the assumption that all Empire leaders were ex-ADN (please, just no), one wing, the West Pacific wing if you will, had their "feeder couper" start in the West Pacific Dominion. One wing, which I came from, could be considered the North Pacific wing. I myself had couped TNP in summer of 2007, and assisted Lewis and Clark (as AGP/Westy went by there) in the Crimson Order. There were other affiliated members who by themselves did not coup feeders, but became valuable assets, both in the past and present. In the public perception of what "Empire" is, however, which is more often than not inaccurate about the behind the scenes, it's a loose grouping of individuals who formulate and implement strategic goals as the group sees fit. I feel it is more realpolitik than ideological, especially considering members are able to work with the multitudes of ideology in this sphere.

Unibot's list is sort of accurate, in terms of public members. I can not, however, go into further detail about others who have still not unmasked.

Perhaps it could be said that it was more an accumulation of major players in the previous coups with the West Pacific Dominion, Crimson Order and The North Pacific Directorate. A growing couper culture.

[Evil Wolf]

Except for modern members, weren't all of the founders old ADNers?

I do think the idea that ADN's Command largely drifted away from defenderdom into well... couping feeders, see Biyah, Westwind, Unistrut. However, it would be incorrect to say that The Empire was by any means exclusively ADN vets. Perhaps it's more that The Empire was influenced by The West Pacific, which The ADN also was associated with.

The original, publicly known members:

Neenee
Biyah
Dalimbar
Darth Zorn
Der Fuhrer Deizel
Whamabama
Ivan Moldavi
Enegro Montoya
Blue Wolf
Agamemnon
Westwind
New Kervoskia
yy4u

In that list you'll see shades of The West Pacific, Equilism, The North Pacific, ADN and RLA.

You know, if you're going to use my name, at least use it in the correct context. *I* was selected for the Empire because they needed someone with raider connections. My presence in The West Pacific as Anarchy Wolf and the fair sized raider military I ran there helped too. My TNP experience had nothing to do with it.

[Starkiller101]

Does anyone rememberer when I got more nations than the feeders wait that wasn't me.

[Festavo]

Does anybody remember The Lone Rangers?

[Warzone Codger]

Was there ever a time when the Warzone regions were completely conquered, as in, like, every single one by a single group?

I was the first one to have embassies with all Warzones. I also at the time had tagged all the Warzones, except the stubborn Warzone Asia held by those One Big Islanders.

Warzone history is actually pretty sad. I was telling Fratt the other day that I'm better remembered and respected in gameplay than I am around the Warzones now. Mainly because the players constantly come and go in the Warzones and they have no reverence for history...

[Frattastan II]

Does anybody remember The Lone Rangers?

A pathetic, insignificant group of about 4 members of unclear Gameplay alignment; a failed project like many others; best remembered for having a leader who posted questions like this.

[Shizensky]

Does anybody remember The Lone Rangers?

A pathetic, insignificant group of about 4 members of unclear Gameplay alignment; a failed project like many others; best remembered for having a leader who posted questions like this.

Let's be fair, Fratt. Realistically, they'll be remembered as the only group to submit to TEK before their old base fell to the levels of a tagger playground. History ain't looking good for The Lone Rangers.

[Applebania]

What was a puppetmaster attack?

[Drop Your Pants]

Was there ever a time when the Warzone regions were completely conquered, as in, like, every single one by a single group?

The Youngworld did that before the warzones became cool again. 07-08 I think but its all a little hazy. Mordor made a crack at it more recently but can't remember if they ever got there.

[Warzone Codger]

I see 3 era of Warzone coolness.

TYW era with all the oldies when it first started. Throw in Galts somewhere
...
Then Warzones died for many years unless someone remembers anybody significant?
...
The Codger era, which was also when OBI ruled WZ Asia and Trav Khar then TSP owned WZ Australia. Other people that I remember include the Global Alliance, Global Powers, the Clindeans, The New Galactic Empire.
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Then the Warzones died again for a while, with the exception of "Spiridor" (Back when Mordor and Spiritus were friends!) going Warzone and Codger hunting.
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The current era is actually pretty good for the Warzones. There are 3 real Warzone communities, the most prominent being the Asta sponsored WZ Europe. Four if you count the Airspace retirement home.

[All Good People]

What was a puppetmaster attack?

A Puppetmaster attack made use of a bug/flaw in NS code that has long since been fixed. With this flaw, you could 'pre-endorse' a World Assembly member nation with a non-World Assembly nation. In that way, as soon as that non-WA nation joined the WA....the endorsement would immediately go live. That made it difficult to track, difficult to prepare for it, and the attackers could have multiple non-WA nations in place with pre-endorsements for switching as they get banned from the target region.

[Ballotonia]

What was a puppetmaster attack?

A Puppetmaster attack made use of a bug/flaw in NS code that has long since been fixed. With this flaw, you could 'pre-endorse' a World Assembly member nation with a non-World Assembly nation. In that way, as soon as that non-WA nation joined the WA....the endorsement would immediately go live. That made it difficult to track, difficult to prepare for it, and the attackers could have multiple non-WA nations in place with pre-endorsements for switching as they get banned from the target region.

Almost. It involved pre-endorsing a non-WA nation using another non-WA nation (back then it was called the UN, by the way). The endorsement would go 'live' once endorsers and endorsee joined the WA.

Ballotonia

[Drop Your Pants]

TYW era with all the oldies when it first started. Throw in Galts somewhere

It was just TYW and GG for a year or so.

[Port blood]

A pathetic, insignificant group of about 4 members of unclear Gameplay alignment; a failed project like many others; best remembered for having a leader who posted questions like this.

Let's be fair, Fratt. Realistically, they'll be remembered as the only group to submit to TEK before their old base fell to the levels of a tagger playground. History ain't looking good for The Lone Rangers.

reason #9154184 we need a like system

[Unibot III]

You know, if you're going to use my name, at least use it in the correct context. *I* was selected for the Empire because they needed someone with raider connections. My presence in The West Pacific as Anarchy Wolf and the fair sized raider military I ran there helped too. My TNP experience had nothing to do with it.

Dali, NK and Ivan were TNP.

[New Euthenia]

Who was the first nation in all NS history? What was the first region to be made?

[Port blood]

Who was the first nation in all NS history? What was the first region to be made?

Max Barry his nation/feeders (citation needed)

[New Euthenia]

Who was the first nation in all NS history? What was the first region to be made?

Max Barry his nation/feeders (citation needed)

What was Max Barry's nation name? Maxtopia? Violet?

[Todd McCloud]

Max Barry his nation/feeders (citation needed)

What was Max Barry's nation name? Maxtopia? Violet?

Maxtopia.

[Dalimbar]

While fair, and certainly more accurate than the assumption that all Empire leaders were ex-ADN (please, just no), one wing, the West Pacific wing if you will, had their "feeder couper" start in the West Pacific Dominion. One wing, which I came from, could be considered the North Pacific wing. I myself had couped TNP in summer of 2007, and assisted Lewis and Clark (as AGP/Westy went by there) in the Crimson Order. There were other affiliated members who by themselves did not coup feeders, but became valuable assets, both in the past and present. In the public perception of what "Empire" is, however, which is more often than not inaccurate about the behind the scenes, it's a loose grouping of individuals who formulate and implement strategic goals as the group sees fit. I feel it is more realpolitik than ideological, especially considering members are able to work with the multitudes of ideology in this sphere.

Unibot's list is sort of accurate, in terms of public members. I can not, however, go into further detail about others who have still not unmasked.

Perhaps it could be said that it was more an accumulation of major players in the previous coups with the West Pacific Dominion, Crimson Order and The North Pacific Directorate. A growing couper culture.

Undoubtedly we found one another to take TEP in 2008 because of our experiences. Wolfie, for example, is correct, in that we needed someone with more clout with the raider community. Biyah was very good at intel and counter-intel (and for those of you who question this, you were never trusted enough. And for good reason.). Nee was obvious as head, a friendly gal who, before then, would have never been thought to have thought of all this. The rest of us brought in our own particular passions.

It may have not worked. Loop was running at the same time to oust Gnid. If he got there before us, history would have been different.

[Port blood]

I got my coup at the barber

[The Blaatschapen]

I got my coup at the barber

That doesn't work in English.