NS History: You've Got Questions, We've Got Answers!

[Mallorea and Riva]

Worst liberation & occupation attempt ever?

Worst liberation attempt from my time... hrmmm... I've seen too many straight up misses from FRUDOR when they had numerical superiority to think of just one. Are you talking about largest number of liberators to ever fail to take a region?

And worst occupation attempt as in largest number of occupiers to fail?

[WraithFIN]

Worst liberation & occupation attempt ever?

Worst liberation attempt from my time... hrmmm... I've seen too many straight up misses from FRUDOR when they had numerical superiority to think of just one. Are you talking about largest number of liberators to ever fail to take a region?

And worst occupation attempt as in largest number of occupiers to fail?

sure why not dear

[1 Infinite Loop]

Question:

When did Raiders and Defenders stop respecting each other

when the defenders got Mod assistance and essentially cheated lol.

honestly we need really cared for them because most were invaders who failed at invading.
and the general presumption was due to things we saw happening the mods were assisting the defenders in the background and changing the rules to make the game skew toward defenders.
that and for a while it seemed that the sure way to become a mod was to have your region invaded.

[1 Infinite Loop]

Were the Farkers ever respected?

As respected as they have been/are whenever they invade a world. High volume, and a couple decent players. Loop was a farker back in the day, as I recall.

yes, we once were respected, and had a hand in pruning the nazi's back a bit, I was the first non nazi delegate of Germany lol.

our most un respected was shortly after we all arrived in 03 there were so many of us that players mostly from wysteria as I recall calling for us to be banned en masse lol

[1 Infinite Loop]

The NSwiki page for each GCR contains something of a delegate history. I don't know if there's a more thorough record anywhere.

I used NSHistoryto make this.

Note: The exact dates were inaccurate, if NationX became delegate on September 3, but NSHistory didn't save the information of the region until the 6th, the date appears on this list as the sixth. These are approximate days, so I left them off entirely, I just did months (But even then, the months could be off, because if a delegate lost the seat on the 30th it may not show the change till the 4th or so of the next month). Also, there may be delegates not on this list. I can think of at least three cases where a person was delegate for only a day or two and because NSHistory didn't save the information before they lost the delegacy they were left out. Finally, the information only goes back to mid-2003. Having said all of that, here are the list of delegate spans for each GCR, excluding Warzones and the two new sinkers:

Begin of Reign	End of Reign	Name
??? (Was at least delegate by May 2003)	May 2003	Lotlanthanderamore
June 2003	May 20061	1 Infinite Loop
May 2006	August 2008	Gnidrah
April 2010	September 2010	Lady Edea
December 2008	January 2009	A Slanted Black Stripe
January 2009	March 2010	Todd McCloud
April 2010	September 2010	Lady Edea
October 2010	April 2011	South Allegheny
April 2011	Present	Todd McCloud

¹April 2, 2004: No delegate listed for TEP, Loop is listed as delegate again by the 5th

Begin of Reign	End of Reign	Name
??? (became delegate by May 2003)	May 2003	Nastic
May 2003	June 2003	United Individuals
June 2003	July 2003	Nastic
August 2003	September 2003	Treenudity
September 2003	November 2003	The Twoslit Experiment
December 2003	December 2003	Nastic 2
January 2004	January 2004	The Twoslit Experiment
January 2004	January 2004	Wilkshire
January 2004	February 2004	The Twoslit Experiment
February 2004	April 2004	Wilkshire
April 2004	April 2004	Blackshear
April 2004	June 2004	Magicality
June 2004	June 2004	Ups Rail
July 2004	July 2004	Great Bight
July 2004	July 2004	Better Times
August 2004	September 2004	Thel DRan
September 2004	October 2004	Sydia
October 2004	May 2005	Pixiedance
May 2005	August 2005	Stars of Sky
August 2006	November 2006	Flemingovia
November 2006	February 2006	Former English Colony
February 2006	May 2006	Hepzibah II
May 2006	August 2006	Former English Colony
August 2006	August 2006	Unterwasserseestaat
September 2006	February 2007	Great Bights Mum
February 2007	February 2007	Emperor Matthuis
February 2007	August 2007	Chodean Kal
August 2007	October 2007	Great Bights Mum
October 2007	October 2007	Emperor Matthuis
October 2007	January 2008	Great Bights Mum
January 2008	May 2008	Lewis and Clark
May 2008	June 2008	Great Bights Mum
June 2008	October 2008	Zemnaya Svoboda
October 2008	February 2009	The Tresville Element
February 2009	September 2009	Sydia
October 2009	March 2010	Durkadurkiranistan
March 2010	July 2010	New Kervoskia
July 2010	July 2010	Shoeless Joe
August 2010	September 2010	Ermarian
October 2010	October 2010	Durkadurkiranistan II
October 2010	January 2011	Flemingovia
January 2011	March 2011	Chodean Kal
March 2011	September 2011	Blackshear41
October 2011	Present	Grosseschnauzer

Begining of Reign	End of Reign	Name
??? (at least delegate by 2003)	May 2003	InfernoIce
May 2003	June 2003	Olongapo
June 2003	July 2003	Thedoc
July 2003	August 2003	The Savage Lands
August 2003	August 2003	Thedoc
August 2003	August 2003	The Savage Lands
August 2003	August 2003	Thedoc
August 2003	September 2003	Francos Spain
September 2003	October 2003	Poskrebyshev
October 2003	December 2003	Francos Spain
December 2003	January 2004	Poskrebyshev
January 2004	July 2004	Francos Spain
July 2004	August 2004	Poskrebyshev
August 2004	July 2005	Unlimited
July 2005	December 2005	Mammothistan
January 2006	March 2006	Unlimited
March 2006	June 2006	Blackadder Goes Forth
June 2005	October 2006	Pierconium
October 2006	May 2009	Moo-Cows With Guns
May 2009	Present	Krulltopia

A possible indicator of how bad-ass the NPO is, the only former delegate still in existence is Moo.

Begin of Reign	End of Reign	Name
??? (Was at least delegate by May 2003)	May 2003	Killer Monkeys
June 2003	June 2003	Goddessness
June 2003	June 2003	The Fathoms Below
July 2003	July 2003	Alpha C
July 2003	July 2003	Gatren
July 2003	October 2003	LadyRebels
November 2003	December 2003	The Matt- Duck
December 2003	July 2004	LadyRebels
July 2004	February 2005	The Shaft
February 2005	February 2006	Caer Rialis
March 2006	April 2006	oddessness
April 2006	July 2006	Caer Rialis
July 2006	December 2009	Fudgetopia
January 2010	May 2011	Southern Bellz
May 2011	May 2011	Devonitians
May 2011	June 2011	Southern Bellz
June 2011	August 2011	Daynor
September 2011	Present	South Pacific Belschaft

Begin of Reign	End of Reign	Name
??? (at least delegate by May 2003)	May 2003	Commercial Affairs
May 2003	May 2004	Norion
May 2004	December 2004	Berhampore
January 2005	January 2005	Lake Lanier
January 2005	May 2005	Zetaone
May 2005	October 2005	Minineenee
November 2005	September 2006	Wickedly evil people
September 2006	May 2007	Shasoria
June 2007	March 2008	TAOs UN Nation
March 2008	April 2008	Lots of Ants
May 2008	May 2008	Wickedly evil people
May 2008	October 2008	Biteland
October 2008	December 2008	The Faeyas
January 2009	April 2009	Wickedly evil people
May 2009	April 2010	ROLHEATH
May 2010	November 2010	Darkesia
November 2010	November 2010	Wickedly evil people
December 2010	September 2011	Punk Reloaded
September 2011	October 2011	Wickedly evil people
October 2011	Present	Enlightened Defenders

Begin of Reign	End of Reign	Name
May 2004	July 2004	Lies Incorporated
July 2004	November 2004	New Omnivaro
November 2004	November 2004	Vesoul
December 2004	December 2004	Lies Incorporated
December 2004	March 2005	Baribeau
March 2005	March 2005	Peaceloving Sex Fiends
March 2005	July 2005	Baribeau
July 2005	October 2005	Spectacor
October 2005	October 2005	British Special Boats
November 2005	November 2005	Killer Kitty
December 2005	December 2005	The Free Confederates
January 2006	January 2006	Iguodala
January 2006	February 2006	The Free Confederates
February 2006	July 2006	North Harmoneia
July 2006	November 2006	Killer Kitty
November 2006	November 2006	Elric of Melnibone
November 2006	January 2007	North Harmoneia
January 2007	February 2008	Dezzland
February 2008	May 2008	Northern-Chittowa
May 2008	November 2008	Harmoneia
November 2008	November 2008	Viceroy Victorious
December 2008	May 2009	Razril Island
May 2009	June 2009	Freesatania
June 2009	September 2010	Griffin Somerset
September 2010	March 2011	Harmoneia
March 2011	Present	Drop Your Pants

Begin of Reign	End of Reign	Name
??? (At least delegate by May 2003)	May 2003	Sagar
May 2003	June 2003	Gres
June 2003	June 2003	Mrnonchalant
June 2003	October 2003	Kandarin
October 2003	October 2003	Jennivier
October 2003	August 20112	Kandarin
August 2011	November 2011	Sedgistan
November 2011	Present	Guy

²Somehow NSHistory missed every single time Kandy was removed for a couple days, giving him an uninterupted delegacy for eight years as far as NS History is concerned.

Also, this list doesn't take into account any nation passing, obviously.

about the April 5th thing, this was when that hacker guy hit the EP ( his name was a series of symbols like (-_-) or something) and I got temporarily removed as he tried to empty the region
I happened to be online when he hit and got a full list of his puppets which let the mods find out who he was and get rid of him.

there was a uproar in the defender community who hated me at the time saying that I should not be restored by the mods to the delegacy even though that was the standard policy kinda irritated me as there was even any discussion of policy just because it was me, I returned though,

[1 Infinite Loop]

What was the silliest UN resolution that ever got passed?

And was there ever a region before us called Wonderful Paradise.

Silliest UN resolution, Hippo Appreciation Day, dec 25th

[1 Infinite Loop]

In reference to New New York's question, what exactly is a farker?

we were the first Invaders.
Fark linked NS sn January 25th 2003 and we arrived in droves.
we first founded Farkistan then Farktopia, then after the mini civil war between the two of us groups from both sides got together and realized we could invade a region endorse each other and take over the region and post sill stuff in the fact book and just be silly.

Loop was a Farker. IIRC, they were actual Farkers (from the site Fark.com) who heard about NS on that site and came to see what havoc they could wreak when left to an environment shackled only by their own creativity.

No we did not come to wreck havoc, we originally came to see what the link was about, it took a month before the Farkers assembled from Farkistan and Farktopia,
a history should be non bias, for example I am not mentioning how the ADN tried to grief and refound Italy, which collapsed rather dreadfully.

[1 Infinite Loop]

Ah yes, how could I forget ALL.

And yes, Ackbar was very sensible. I miss having him around.

What no love for Teh Loop?

Of course, there were also defenders who broke them, thinking those rules only applied to invaders, and didn't realise that basically, for those rules, they were also considered invaders
And then there was a group who on purpose went and broke those rules because well...there will always be idiots

at first Defenders were not subject to the same rules, the playing field wasn't leveled for a bit.

1) Pope Hope - because she seems to have been what held the ADN together politically, and she pulled it off without most people ever blaming her for all the shady dealings that inevitably involved.

Pope Hope was our bedrock, yeah. There's no way ADN would've grown so large and influential without her. I don't agree with the no blaming part though. She took a lot of crap for being leader of ADN and sticking by her people. However she had a knack for recruiting people/regions, making friends and spotting/promoting talent.

Had PH been a Guy, the ADN would never have prospered. it boiles down to girl gamer dynamics.



there were claims that we were founded by Hitler the Great and whatever that invader group he was from was called, I cannot remember the name but I remember the flags all were required to fly, they were not fond of my gif parody
I don't honestly recall if it was there, or founded.

No you didn't, I was there, the ACC created TEP (Hitler the great) and Loth took command away and after the Heartland invasion I settled in there for a rest and Loth asked me to take over.
and Yes, I ejected more people that Franco ever dreamed of ejecting and at one time I recoil being told my ban list was the biggest in the game ( )
the reason my "Transgressions" were overlooked is because we were building the greatest RP region in the game, which we did.
Get your facts straight.

[Ramaeus]

a history should be non bias, for example I am not mentioning how the ADN tried to grief and refound Italy, which collapsed rather dreadfully.

I would love to hear more about that, and about any other, similar actions by the ADN.

[1 Infinite Loop]

a history should be non bias, for example I am not mentioning how the ADN tried to grief and refound Italy, which collapsed rather dreadfully.

I would love to hear more about that, and about any other, similar actions by the ADN.

basically a group of ADNers took it that PH and the crew wanted Italy to be part of the group for some reason and they tried to invade and take it over, I had delegate controls off of course and they couldn't do anything

I have a big question I believe. Can someone tell me all the feeder|sinker Delegate kings, queens (not counting The Pacific) that have been in power and their government under them?

I also have another question. I want to know more about this "Empire" that ruled over TEP.

it was a offshoot of I think the ADN run by Biyah around the time he went nuts basically came in and took over TEP using multis and Griefed it for a bit and we had some fun with them giving them a bunch of crazy intel as though we didn't know Biyah was a double agent.



also sorry for making it look like spam or something, just catching up stuff I can answer

[Bubblekirby]

Who is Unibot?

[Ramaeus]

basically a group of ADNers took it that PH and the crew wanted Italy to be part of the group for some reason and they tried to invade and take it over, I had delegate controls off of course and they couldn't do anything

Heh... nice.

[Red Skull Prime]

Who is Unibot?

The second great idealarch of NationStates.

[Ananke II]

basically a group of ADNers took it that PH and the crew wanted Italy to be part of the group for some reason and they tried to invade and take it over, I had delegate controls off of course and they couldn't do anything

Wasn't that Gothicville and FA? I seem to remember them having a fixation on Italy and there being quite the ruckus because Gothicville helped FA invade while he was in ADN too. Can't remember if he got kicked out over it, but Pope Hope was quite pissed.

[Applebania]

What was Fox Rite?

[Crazy girl]

Well lookie who walked in! Hello, Loop, long time no see.

[The Blaatschapen]

Welcome Loop.

In the future, try to combine posts. Double posting is frowned upon. sextet-posting is spammish

[Blackbird]

basically a group of ADNers took it that PH and the crew wanted Italy to be part of the group for some reason and they tried to invade and take it over, I had delegate controls off of course and they couldn't do anything

Wasn't that Gothicville and FA? I seem to remember them having a fixation on Italy and there being quite the ruckus because Gothicville helped FA invade while he was in ADN too. Can't remember if he got kicked out over it, but Pope Hope was quite pissed.

That's my recollection too.

I also don't think Biyah's "Empire" was an "offshoot of the ADN."

[Anime Daisuki]

I have a big question I believe. Can someone tell me all the feeder|sinker Delegate kings, queens (not counting The Pacific) that have been in power and their government under them?

I also have another question. I want to know more about this "Empire" that ruled over TEP.

it was a offshoot of I think the ADN run by Biyah around the time he went nuts basically came in and took over TEP using multis and Griefed it for a bit and we had some fun with them giving them a bunch of crazy intel as though we didn't know Biyah was a double agent.

The Empire had nothing to do with ADN. ADN including DSA was long dead by then. You're off by at least 2-3 years.

[Venico]

Except for modern members, weren't all of the founders old ADNers?

[1 Infinite Loop]

it was a offshoot of I think the ADN run by Biyah around the time he went nuts basically came in and took over TEP using multis and Griefed it for a bit and we had some fun with them giving them a bunch of crazy intel as though we didn't know Biyah was a double agent.

The Empire had nothing to do with ADN. ADN including DSA was long dead by then. You're off by at least 2-3 years.

The ADN was still there this was like their last great hurrah, the "Intel" we gave biyah when we suspected his double agentry (Come on, you never talk to us then all of a sudden you're a buddy? oldest spy trick in the book lol) all ended up in an ADN forum this thanks to a couple of Spies there that the Farkers had in place since almost day 1, though I am probably not supposed to tell that part.

[All Good People]

The Empire was post-Crimson Order, when I was TNP Delegate. It would be more correct to say that most members of The Empire came from the Crimson Order.

[New Grestin]

Was there ever a time when the Warzone regions were completely conquered, as in, like, every single one by a single group?

[Consular]

One Big Island supposedly did on 9/29/2009

[Tano]

What was Fox Rite?

They were a prominent (I think?) raiding group way back when led by Todd McCloud. That's all I know on the subject, but I'll bug him to come in here and talk about it because I'm curious too