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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:45 pm

WraithFIN wrote:Worst liberation & occupation attempt ever?

Worst liberation attempt from my time... hrmmm... I've seen too many straight up misses from FRUDOR when they had numerical superiority to think of just one. Are you talking about largest number of liberators to ever fail to take a region?

And worst occupation attempt as in largest number of occupiers to fail?
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Postby WraithFIN » Thu Apr 10, 2014 12:53 pm

Mallorea and Riva wrote:
WraithFIN wrote:Worst liberation & occupation attempt ever?

Worst liberation attempt from my time... hrmmm... I've seen too many straight up misses from FRUDOR when they had numerical superiority to think of just one. Are you talking about largest number of liberators to ever fail to take a region?

And worst occupation attempt as in largest number of occupiers to fail?

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Postby 1 Infinite Loop » Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:54 pm

Tim-Opolis wrote:Question:

When did Raiders and Defenders stop respecting each other



when the defenders got Mod assistance and essentially cheated lol.

honestly we need really cared for them because most were invaders who failed at invading.
and the general presumption was due to things we saw happening the mods were assisting the defenders in the background and changing the rules to make the game skew toward defenders.
that and for a while it seemed that the sure way to become a mod was to have your region invaded.

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Postby 1 Infinite Loop » Thu Apr 10, 2014 4:56 pm

Blackbird wrote:
New New York wrote:Were the Farkers ever respected?


As respected as they have been/are whenever they invade a world. High volume, and a couple decent players. Loop was a farker back in the day, as I recall.


yes, we once were respected, and had a hand in pruning the nazi's back a bit, I was the first non nazi delegate of Germany lol.

our most un respected was shortly after we all arrived in 03 there were so many of us that players mostly from wysteria as I recall calling for us to be banned en masse lol

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Postby 1 Infinite Loop » Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:05 pm

Topid wrote:
Goobergunchia wrote:
The NSwiki page for each GCR contains something of a delegate history. I don't know if there's a more thorough record anywhere.
I used NSHistoryto make this.

Note: The exact dates were inaccurate, if NationX became delegate on September 3, but NSHistory didn't save the information of the region until the 6th, the date appears on this list as the sixth. These are approximate days, so I left them off entirely, I just did months (But even then, the months could be off, because if a delegate lost the seat on the 30th it may not show the change till the 4th or so of the next month). Also, there may be delegates not on this list. I can think of at least three cases where a person was delegate for only a day or two and because NSHistory didn't save the information before they lost the delegacy they were left out. Finally, the information only goes back to mid-2003. Having said all of that, here are the list of delegate spans for each GCR, excluding Warzones and the two new sinkers:
Begin of ReignEnd of ReignName
??? (Was at least delegate by May 2003)May 2003Lotlanthanderamore
June 2003May 200611 Infinite Loop
May 2006August 2008Gnidrah
April 2010September 2010Lady Edea
December 2008January 2009A Slanted Black Stripe
January 2009March 2010Todd McCloud
April 2010September 2010Lady Edea
October 2010April 2011South Allegheny
April 2011PresentTodd McCloud
1April 2, 2004: No delegate listed for TEP, Loop is listed as delegate again by the 5th
Begin of ReignEnd of ReignName
??? (became delegate by May 2003)May 2003Nastic
May 2003June 2003United Individuals
June 2003July 2003Nastic
August 2003September 2003Treenudity
September 2003November 2003The Twoslit Experiment
December 2003December 2003Nastic 2
January 2004January 2004The Twoslit Experiment
January 2004January 2004Wilkshire
January 2004February 2004The Twoslit Experiment
February 2004April 2004Wilkshire
April 2004April 2004Blackshear
April 2004June 2004Magicality
June 2004June 2004Ups Rail
July 2004July 2004Great Bight
July 2004July 2004Better Times
August 2004September 2004Thel DRan
September 2004October 2004Sydia
October 2004May 2005Pixiedance
May 2005August 2005Stars of Sky
August 2006November 2006Flemingovia
November 2006February 2006Former English Colony
February 2006May 2006Hepzibah II
May 2006August 2006Former English Colony
August 2006August 2006Unterwasserseestaat
September 2006February 2007Great Bights Mum
February 2007February 2007Emperor Matthuis
February 2007August 2007Chodean Kal
August 2007October 2007Great Bights Mum
October 2007October 2007Emperor Matthuis
October 2007January 2008Great Bights Mum
January 2008May 2008Lewis and Clark
May 2008June 2008Great Bights Mum
June 2008October 2008Zemnaya Svoboda
October 2008February 2009The Tresville Element
February 2009September 2009Sydia
October 2009March 2010Durkadurkiranistan
March 2010July 2010New Kervoskia
July 2010July 2010Shoeless Joe
August 2010September 2010Ermarian
October 2010October 2010Durkadurkiranistan II
October 2010January 2011Flemingovia
January 2011March 2011Chodean Kal
March 2011September 2011Blackshear41
October 2011PresentGrosseschnauzer
Begining of ReignEnd of ReignName
??? (at least delegate by 2003)May 2003InfernoIce
May 2003June 2003Olongapo
June 2003July 2003Thedoc
July 2003August 2003The Savage Lands
August 2003August 2003Thedoc
August 2003August 2003The Savage Lands
August 2003August 2003Thedoc
August 2003September 2003Francos Spain
September 2003October 2003Poskrebyshev
October 2003December 2003Francos Spain
December 2003January 2004Poskrebyshev
January 2004July 2004Francos Spain
July 2004August 2004Poskrebyshev
August 2004July 2005Unlimited
July 2005December 2005Mammothistan
January 2006March 2006Unlimited
March 2006June 2006Blackadder Goes Forth
June 2005October 2006Pierconium
October 2006May 2009Moo-Cows With Guns
May 2009PresentKrulltopia
A possible indicator of how bad-ass the NPO is, the only former delegate still in existence is Moo.
Begin of ReignEnd of ReignName
??? (Was at least delegate by May 2003)May 2003Killer Monkeys
June 2003June 2003Goddessness
June 2003June 2003The Fathoms Below
July 2003July 2003Alpha C
July 2003July 2003Gatren
July 2003October 2003LadyRebels
November 2003December 2003The Matt- Duck
December 2003July 2004LadyRebels
July 2004February 2005The Shaft
February 2005February 2006Caer Rialis
March 2006April 2006oddessness
April 2006July 2006Caer Rialis
July 2006December 2009Fudgetopia
January 2010May 2011Southern Bellz
May 2011May 2011Devonitians
May 2011June 2011Southern Bellz
June 2011August 2011Daynor
September 2011PresentSouth Pacific Belschaft
Begin of ReignEnd of ReignName
??? (at least delegate by May 2003)May 2003Commercial Affairs
May 2003May 2004Norion
May 2004December 2004Berhampore
January 2005January 2005Lake Lanier
January 2005May 2005Zetaone
May 2005October 2005Minineenee
November 2005September 2006Wickedly evil people
September 2006May 2007Shasoria
June 2007March 2008TAOs UN Nation
March 2008April 2008Lots of Ants
May 2008May 2008Wickedly evil people
May 2008October 2008Biteland
October 2008December 2008The Faeyas
January 2009April 2009Wickedly evil people
May 2009April 2010ROLHEATH
May 2010November 2010Darkesia
November 2010November 2010Wickedly evil people
December 2010September 2011Punk Reloaded
September 2011October 2011Wickedly evil people
October 2011PresentEnlightened Defenders
Begin of ReignEnd of ReignName
May 2004July 2004Lies Incorporated
July 2004November 2004New Omnivaro
November 2004November 2004Vesoul
December 2004December 2004Lies Incorporated
December 2004March 2005Baribeau
March 2005March 2005Peaceloving Sex Fiends
March 2005July 2005Baribeau
July 2005October 2005Spectacor
October 2005October 2005British Special Boats
November 2005November 2005Killer Kitty
December 2005December 2005The Free Confederates
January 2006January 2006Iguodala
January 2006February 2006The Free Confederates
February 2006July 2006North Harmoneia
July 2006November 2006Killer Kitty
November 2006November 2006Elric of Melnibone
November 2006January 2007North Harmoneia
January 2007February 2008Dezzland
February 2008May 2008Northern-Chittowa
May 2008November 2008Harmoneia
November 2008November 2008Viceroy Victorious
December 2008May 2009Razril Island
May 2009June 2009Freesatania
June 2009September 2010Griffin Somerset
September 2010March 2011Harmoneia
March 2011PresentDrop Your Pants
Begin of ReignEnd of ReignName
??? (At least delegate by May 2003)May 2003Sagar
May 2003June 2003Gres
June 2003June 2003Mrnonchalant
June 2003October 2003Kandarin
October 2003October 2003Jennivier
October 2003August 20112Kandarin
August 2011November 2011Sedgistan
November 2011PresentGuy
2Somehow NSHistory missed every single time Kandy was removed for a couple days, giving him an uninterupted delegacy for eight years as far as NS History is concerned.

Also, this list doesn't take into account any nation passing, obviously.



about the April 5th thing, this was when that hacker guy hit the EP ( his name was a series of symbols like (-_-) or something) and I got temporarily removed as he tried to empty the region
I happened to be online when he hit and got a full list of his puppets which let the mods find out who he was and get rid of him.

there was a uproar in the defender community who hated me at the time saying that I should not be restored by the mods to the delegacy even though that was the standard policy kinda irritated me as there was even any discussion of policy just because it was me, I returned though,

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Postby 1 Infinite Loop » Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:07 pm

Demphor wrote:What was the silliest UN resolution that ever got passed?

And was there ever a region before us called Wonderful Paradise.



Silliest UN resolution, Hippo Appreciation Day, dec 25th

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Postby 1 Infinite Loop » Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:12 pm

Joshuahood wrote:In reference to New New York's question, what exactly is a farker?



we were the first Invaders.
Fark linked NS sn January 25th 2003 and we arrived in droves.
we first founded Farkistan then Farktopia, then after the mini civil war between the two of us groups from both sides got together and realized we could invade a region endorse each other and take over the region and post sill stuff in the fact book and just be silly.

Darkesia wrote:Loop was a Farker. IIRC, they were actual Farkers (from the site Fark.com) who heard about NS on that site and came to see what havoc they could wreak when left to an environment shackled only by their own creativity.



No we did not come to wreck havoc, we originally came to see what the link was about, it took a month before the Farkers assembled from Farkistan and Farktopia,
a history should be non bias, for example I am not mentioning how the ADN tried to grief and refound Italy, which collapsed rather dreadfully.
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Postby 1 Infinite Loop » Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:13 pm

Crazy girl wrote:Ah yes, how could I forget ALL.

And yes, Ackbar was very sensible. I miss having him around.

What no love for Teh Loop?


Crazy girl wrote:Of course, there were also defenders who broke them, thinking those rules only applied to invaders, and didn't realise that basically, for those rules, they were also considered invaders :P
And then there was a group who on purpose went and broke those rules because well...there will always be idiots :P



at first Defenders were not subject to the same rules, the playing field wasn't leveled for a bit.


Ananke II wrote:
Naivetry wrote:1) Pope Hope - because she seems to have been what held the ADN together politically, and she pulled it off without most people ever blaming her for all the shady dealings that inevitably involved.

Pope Hope was our bedrock, yeah. There's no way ADN would've grown so large and influential without her. I don't agree with the no blaming part though. She took a lot of crap for being leader of ADN and sticking by her people. However she had a knack for recruiting people/regions, making friends and spotting/promoting talent.
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Had PH been a Guy, the ADN would never have prospered. it boiles down to girl gamer dynamics.



there were claims that we were founded by Hitler the Great and whatever that invader group he was from was called, I cannot remember the name but I remember the flags all were required to fly, they were not fond of my gif parody
I don't honestly recall if it was there, or founded.



No you didn't, I was there, the ACC created TEP (Hitler the great) and Loth took command away and after the Heartland invasion I settled in there for a rest and Loth asked me to take over.
and Yes, I ejected more people that Franco ever dreamed of ejecting and at one time I recoil being told my ban list was the biggest in the game ( :) )
the reason my "Transgressions" were overlooked is because we were building the greatest RP region in the game, which we did.
Get your facts straight.
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Postby Ramaeus » Thu Apr 10, 2014 5:19 pm

1 Infinite Loop wrote:a history should be non bias, for example I am not mentioning how the ADN tried to grief and refound Italy, which collapsed rather dreadfully.

I would love to hear more about that, and about any other, similar actions by the ADN.
Just some weeb.

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Postby 1 Infinite Loop » Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:01 pm

Ramaeus wrote:
1 Infinite Loop wrote:a history should be non bias, for example I am not mentioning how the ADN tried to grief and refound Italy, which collapsed rather dreadfully.

I would love to hear more about that, and about any other, similar actions by the ADN.


basically a group of ADNers took it that PH and the crew wanted Italy to be part of the group for some reason and they tried to invade and take it over, I had delegate controls off of course and they couldn't do anything


Feux wrote:I have a big question I believe. Can someone tell me all the feeder|sinker Delegate kings, queens (not counting The Pacific) that have been in power and their government under them?

I also have another question. I want to know more about this "Empire" that ruled over TEP.

it was a offshoot of I think the ADN run by Biyah around the time he went nuts basically came in and took over TEP using multis and Griefed it for a bit and we had some fun with them giving them a bunch of crazy intel as though we didn't know Biyah was a double agent.



also sorry for making it look like spam or something, just catching up stuff I can answer

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Postby Ramaeus » Thu Apr 10, 2014 6:08 pm

1 Infinite Loop wrote:basically a group of ADNers took it that PH and the crew wanted Italy to be part of the group for some reason and they tried to invade and take it over, I had delegate controls off of course and they couldn't do anything

Heh... nice.
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Postby Ananke II » Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:17 pm

1 Infinite Loop wrote:basically a group of ADNers took it that PH and the crew wanted Italy to be part of the group for some reason and they tried to invade and take it over, I had delegate controls off of course and they couldn't do anything

Wasn't that Gothicville and FA? I seem to remember them having a fixation on Italy and there being quite the ruckus because Gothicville helped FA invade while he was in ADN too. Can't remember if he got kicked out over it, but Pope Hope was quite pissed.

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What was Fox Rite?

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Postby Crazy girl » Fri Apr 11, 2014 3:06 am

Well lookie who walked in! Hello, Loop, long time no see.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:25 am

Welcome Loop.

In the future, try to combine posts. Double posting is frowned upon. sextet-posting is spammish :p
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Postby Blackbird » Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:52 am

Ananke II wrote:
1 Infinite Loop wrote:basically a group of ADNers took it that PH and the crew wanted Italy to be part of the group for some reason and they tried to invade and take it over, I had delegate controls off of course and they couldn't do anything

Wasn't that Gothicville and FA? I seem to remember them having a fixation on Italy and there being quite the ruckus because Gothicville helped FA invade while he was in ADN too. Can't remember if he got kicked out over it, but Pope Hope was quite pissed.


That's my recollection too.

I also don't think Biyah's "Empire" was an "offshoot of the ADN."

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Postby Anime Daisuki » Fri Apr 11, 2014 7:16 am

1 Infinite Loop wrote:
Feux wrote:I have a big question I believe. Can someone tell me all the feeder|sinker Delegate kings, queens (not counting The Pacific) that have been in power and their government under them?

I also have another question. I want to know more about this "Empire" that ruled over TEP.

it was a offshoot of I think the ADN run by Biyah around the time he went nuts basically came in and took over TEP using multis and Griefed it for a bit and we had some fun with them giving them a bunch of crazy intel as though we didn't know Biyah was a double agent.

The Empire had nothing to do with ADN. ADN including DSA was long dead by then. You're off by at least 2-3 years.

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Postby Venico » Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:21 pm

Except for modern members, weren't all of the founders old ADNers?
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Postby 1 Infinite Loop » Fri Apr 11, 2014 8:43 pm

Anime Daisuki wrote:
1 Infinite Loop wrote:
it was a offshoot of I think the ADN run by Biyah around the time he went nuts basically came in and took over TEP using multis and Griefed it for a bit and we had some fun with them giving them a bunch of crazy intel as though we didn't know Biyah was a double agent.

The Empire had nothing to do with ADN. ADN including DSA was long dead by then. You're off by at least 2-3 years.


The ADN was still there this was like their last great hurrah, the "Intel" we gave biyah when we suspected his double agentry (Come on, you never talk to us then all of a sudden you're a buddy? oldest spy trick in the book lol) all ended up in an ADN forum this thanks to a couple of Spies there that the Farkers had in place since almost day 1, though I am probably not supposed to tell that part.

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Postby All Good People » Sat Apr 12, 2014 9:40 pm

The Empire was post-Crimson Order, when I was TNP Delegate. It would be more correct to say that most members of The Empire came from the Crimson Order.
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Postby New Grestin » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:04 am

Was there ever a time when the Warzone regions were completely conquered, as in, like, every single one by a single group?
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Postby Consular » Mon Apr 14, 2014 3:23 am

One Big Island supposedly did on 9/29/2009

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Applebania wrote:What was Fox Rite?

They were a prominent (I think?) raiding group way back when led by Todd McCloud. That's all I know on the subject, but I'll bug him to come in here and talk about it because I'm curious too :P
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