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Mallorea and Riva
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:16 am

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Mallorea and Riva wrote:Is that actually true? I thought that was random TP propaganda that no one could actively disprove but they went with it. Happy to be shown that I'm wrong if so.

I'm going to frame that shit, Mall admitting he might be wrong :clap: :clap: :clap:

No one has shown that I am yet :p
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Queen Yuno
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Postby Queen Yuno » Sat Aug 15, 2020 1:13 pm

Comfed wrote:Why was Queen Yuno banned from TEP?


Because they're stupid lol

It's their loss!

If you miss me, come to The North Pacific
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Team Lennox
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Postby Team Lennox » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:24 pm

Queen Yuno wrote:
Comfed wrote:Why was Queen Yuno banned from TEP?


Because they're stupid lol

It's their loss!

If you miss me, come to The North Pacific

Wait aren't you a rare card in NS or something :?:
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Farnhamia
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:50 pm

Queen Yuno wrote:
Comfed wrote:Why was Queen Yuno banned from TEP?


Because they're stupid lol

It's their loss!

If you miss me, come to The North Pacific

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Queen Yuno
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Postby Queen Yuno » Sat Aug 15, 2020 7:07 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Queen Yuno wrote:
Because they're stupid lol

It's their loss!

If you miss me, come to The North Pacific

*** Warned for flaming ***



Since when is calling a region (TEP, specifically) stupid (for not having me) = flaming?

i didn't even name anyone and as far as I known according to the rules, in Gameplay Forums it was legal to insult regions just not the players specifically.

I'm appealing this right away, this is just ridiculous.

Edit: Won my appeal, but nonetheless, I'll be more mindful in the future when cracking out cheeky jokes.
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Comfed
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Postby Comfed » Sun Aug 16, 2020 3:36 pm

Queen Yuno wrote:
Comfed wrote:Why was Queen Yuno banned from TEP?


Because they're stupid lol

It's their loss!

If you miss me, come to The North Pacific

I’m already in TNP :p

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La Xinga
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Postby La Xinga » Sun Aug 16, 2020 6:23 pm

Question: Why did max make 4 feeders besides TEP before TEP became a GCR? It seems awkward to leave the East.
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Tinhampton
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Postby Tinhampton » Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:26 pm

The first feeder - and, for a while, the only feeder - was The Pacific. TNP, TSP, TWP, and TEP were all user-created regions that were assimilated as feeders about six months after The Big Man created this website.
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Morover
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Postby Morover » Sun Aug 16, 2020 7:34 pm

Tinhampton wrote:The first feeder - and, for a while, the only feeder - was The Pacific. TNP, TSP, TWP, and TEP were all user-created regions that were assimilated as feeders about six months after The Big Man created this website.

Is this true? I had heard that TEP was a UCR (and maybe TSP/TWP? I forget which) but I haven't heard that for the other ones.
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Team Lennox
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Postby Team Lennox » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:25 pm

Morover wrote:
Tinhampton wrote:The first feeder - and, for a while, the only feeder - was The Pacific. TNP, TSP, TWP, and TEP were all user-created regions that were assimilated as feeders about six months after The Big Man created this website.

Is this true? I had heard that TEP was a UCR (and maybe TSP/TWP? I forget which) but I haven't heard that for the other ones.

Nope. 8). all the feeders are GCR's. Created by the founding founding father of this game
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  • A leftist (remind me to make a dispatch on my beliefs later)
  • A Christian with usually fundamentalists views (except for on the Patriarchist, (Bible wasn't a big thing on Gender equity) and LGBTQ+ rights, (Bible wasn't a big thing on that either) (Also the Mosaic law doesn't let us eat things like bacon and ham since in the Bible pigs are unclean animals. Like how am I to survive not eating bacon! >:( )





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Team Lennox
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Postby Team Lennox » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:28 pm

Queen Yuno wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:*** Warned for flaming ***



Since when is calling a region (TEP, specifically) stupid (for not having me) = flaming?

i didn't even name anyone and as far as I known according to the rules, in Gameplay Forums it was legal to insult regions just not the players specifically.

I'm appealing this right away, this is just ridiculous.

Edit: Won my appeal, but nonetheless, I'll be more mindful in the future when cracking out cheeky jokes.

Wow so lucky. Good for you Queen Yuno :clap:
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  • A teenager doing teenage stuff (I guess)
  • A leftist (remind me to make a dispatch on my beliefs later)
  • A Christian with usually fundamentalists views (except for on the Patriarchist, (Bible wasn't a big thing on Gender equity) and LGBTQ+ rights, (Bible wasn't a big thing on that either) (Also the Mosaic law doesn't let us eat things like bacon and ham since in the Bible pigs are unclean animals. Like how am I to survive not eating bacon! >:( )





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Flanderlion
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Postby Flanderlion » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:36 pm

Team Lennox wrote:
Morover wrote:Is this true? I had heard that TEP was a UCR (and maybe TSP/TWP? I forget which) but I haven't heard that for the other ones.

Nope. 8). all the feeders are GCR's. Created by the founding founding father of this game

Yes, but TEP at least was a UCR before it was turned into a Feeder.
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Team Lennox
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Postby Team Lennox » Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:39 pm

Flanderlion wrote:
Team Lennox wrote:Nope. 8). all the feeders are GCR's. Created by the founding founding father of this game

Yes, but TEP at least was a UCR before it was turned into a Feeder.

Wait really? Wow I didn't know :hug:
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  • A leftist (remind me to make a dispatch on my beliefs later)
  • A Christian with usually fundamentalists views (except for on the Patriarchist, (Bible wasn't a big thing on Gender equity) and LGBTQ+ rights, (Bible wasn't a big thing on that either) (Also the Mosaic law doesn't let us eat things like bacon and ham since in the Bible pigs are unclean animals. Like how am I to survive not eating bacon! >:( )





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Inven
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Postby Inven » Mon Aug 17, 2020 1:30 am

What region does Maxtopia reside in beside Lazarus? (the only Wayback Machine archive is in 2012 here: https://web.archive.org/web/20121127221 ... n=maxtopia , after he has revived his nation in 2012 for a special occasion)

Also, my friend said that Maxtopia has a secret RMB message with id 1, however that have been removed. Can anyone verify that?
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Ghost Land
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Postby Ghost Land » Mon Aug 17, 2020 4:14 am

Inven wrote:What region does Maxtopia reside in beside Lazarus? (the only Wayback Machine archive is in 2012 here: https://web.archive.org/web/20121127221 ... n=maxtopia , after he has revived his nation in 2012 for a special occasion)

Also, my friend said that Maxtopia has a secret RMB message with id 1, however that have been removed. Can anyone verify that?
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Maxtopia does not exist. That was Max Barry's nation, though he let it die after the first couple of months after he kept getting spammed with "Wait, are you REALLY Max Barry?!?!?" messages. He revived it in 2008 around the time of the renaming from the United Nations to the World Assembly, and again for the site's 10th anniversary festivities in 2012. As your Wayback Machine link proves, he was in Lazarus in 2012 when he revived himself; further digging reveals he was there when he was active in 2008 as well. I'm not sure what region he was in in 2002 when he was originally active, and considering the oldest Wayback Machine versions of NationStates pages I've been able to find are from May 2003, the best thing to do would be ask a bunch of antiquity nations and see if they remember.
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La Xinga
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Postby La Xinga » Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:07 am

Flanderlion wrote:
Team Lennox wrote:Nope. 8). all the feeders are GCR's. Created by the founding founding father of this game

Yes, but TEP at least was a UCR before it was turned into a Feeder.

Does that mean that after TP, a user created TEP, but not TSP, TNP, or TWP?
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Comfed
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Postby Comfed » Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:39 am

La xinga wrote:
Flanderlion wrote:Yes, but TEP at least was a UCR before it was turned into a Feeder.

Does that mean that after TP, a user created TEP, but not TSP, TNP, or TWP?

I believe some military region was holding it as a protectorate or something.

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Postby Unibot III » Mon Aug 17, 2020 6:55 am

Tinhampton wrote:The first feeder - and, for a while, the only feeder - was The Pacific. TNP, TSP, TWP, and TEP were all user-created regions that were assimilated as feeders about six months after The Big Man created this website.


TP was created first, then TSP on Dec 31. TNP was created shortly after TSP in January at some point (unknown when). TWP was created in April. And TEP was founded as a founderless UCR by AA shortly after TWP’s creation. TEP became a GCR around May 12.

I only know of TEP having been founded as a UCR first. Although I’ve always been suspicious why people didn’t catch onto the naming scheme in January and create the North, West, and East Pacific at that time rather than wait till April.
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Postby The Atlae Isles » Thu Aug 20, 2020 1:00 am

On that note, was it confirmed that Hitler the Great (let's just call them HTG) was the founder of TEP? I seem to recall someone saying they were part of the Atlantic Alliance way back when, although it's possible that Lotlanthanderamore or another nation was the founder.
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Postby Unibot III » Sat Aug 22, 2020 5:39 am

The Atlae Isles wrote:On that note, was it confirmed that Hitler the Great (let's just call them HTG) was the founder of TEP? I seem to recall someone saying they were part of the Atlantic Alliance way back when, although it's possible that Lotlanthanderamore or another nation was the founder.


Definitely not Lot! He was the invader delegate.

The other possibility is Ruebenlucy.

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Indusse
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Postby Indusse » Wed Aug 26, 2020 4:00 am

Is there a way to know about the regions that existed before antiquity. That is if there was a region called India which was found before the Present India,then who was the founder.
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Luna Amore
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Postby Luna Amore » Wed Aug 26, 2020 9:27 am

Indusse wrote:Is there a way to know about the regions that existed before antiquity. That is if there was a region called India which was found before the Present India,then who was the founder.

NSDossier still has some records going back to 2003. Based on what it has on India, I'd say the iteration of India before the current one had no founder.

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Great Algerstonia
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Postby Great Algerstonia » Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:22 am

Unibot III wrote: founded as a founderless UCR

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Postby Lord Dominator » Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:15 pm

Great Algerstonia wrote:
Unibot III wrote: founded as a founderless UCR

:?

The game didn't originally track founders of UCRs, so none of them had actual founders in anything other than honorific.

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Indusse
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Postby Indusse » Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:34 pm

Luna Amore wrote:
Indusse wrote:Is there a way to know about the regions that existed before antiquity. That is if there was a region called India which was found before the Present India,then who was the founder.

NSDossier still has some records going back to 2003. Based on what it has on India, I'd say the iteration of India before the current one had no founder.

Thank you. But I had found a nation who was the founder of India in Wayback Machine. Later browsing through Goobergunchia's Wiki I found that Kathiawar, who Cted was also a founder
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