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Postby Diarcesia » Wed Jan 22, 2020 7:38 pm

Were there separate players of note before that tried to represent separate incarnations of the same nation (i.e. non-puppets, like Player A controls MT Testlandia and Player B controls an FT version)? How did that go?

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:22 am

Diarcesia wrote:Were there separate players of note before that tried to represent separate incarnations of the same nation (i.e. non-puppets, like Player A controls MT Testlandia and Player B controls an FT version)? How did that go?


The roleplayers might be better suited to answer that question, rather than the gameplayers.

Our nation name is our identity over here, so two players representing the same nation in different incarnations is tricky.
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Postby Johanneslanden » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:12 pm

Someone in the feeder names thread said they thought the sinkers used to be UCRs before they were made sinkers
Was wondering if it's true

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Postby Angshire » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:37 pm

Could someone give me a little bit of history behind all of the GCRs (when they were created, coups, delegates, etc.)?
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Postby Diarcesia » Thu Jan 23, 2020 4:38 pm

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Diarcesia wrote:Were there separate players of note before that tried to represent separate incarnations of the same nation (i.e. non-puppets, like Player A controls MT Testlandia and Player B controls an FT version)? How did that go?


The roleplayers might be better suited to answer that question, rather than the gameplayers.

Our nation name is our identity over here, so two players representing the same nation in different incarnations is tricky.

Not sure if there's an NS History thread for RPers.

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Postby Numero Capitan » Thu Jan 23, 2020 5:24 pm

Angshire wrote:Could someone give me a little bit of history behind all of the GCRs (when they were created, coups, delegates, etc.)?


This post is probably a good starting point - viewtopic.php?f=12&t=152919&p=36357732#p36357732
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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:57 pm

Johanneslanden wrote:Someone in the feeder names thread said they thought the sinkers used to be UCRs before they were made sinkers
Was wondering if it's true

Not to my knowledge, though TEP was a UCR for a period prior to being made a Feeder.

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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Jan 23, 2020 7:58 pm

Diarcesia wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
The roleplayers might be better suited to answer that question, rather than the gameplayers.

Our nation name is our identity over here, so two players representing the same nation in different incarnations is tricky.

Not sure if there's an NS History thread for RPers.

Not as such no, the chat/idea threads for each of the rp boards may be a good place to ask however.

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Postby Tarchuna and Ravenna » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:00 pm

HAve the balck hawks been defeated?

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Postby Klorgia1 » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:02 pm

Tarchuna and Ravenna wrote:HAve the balck hawks been defeated?


I was a member of a group which just defeated them in Iran. I suspect they wouldn't enjoy raiding as much if they won everytime no problem.
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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Jan 23, 2020 8:49 pm

Tarchuna and Ravenna wrote:HAve the balck hawks been defeated?

No
Klorgia1 wrote:
Tarchuna and Ravenna wrote:HAve the balck hawks been defeated?


I was a member of a group which just defeated them in Iran. I suspect they wouldn't enjoy raiding as much if they won everytime no problem.

TBH is not the North Pacific Army, who were the ones recently occupying Iran (with support from others).

You'd likely be wrong on how much enjoyment we'd get from winning every time however ;)

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Postby Zukchiva » Thu Jan 23, 2020 9:43 pm

Not sure this is an actual history question, but are there 11 prior constitutions that Lazarus has had since it was founded? Given that Mandate 12 is named as it is, I'm wondering if it's the 12th constitution of Lazarus of if it was just a name thing to make it sound cool.
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Postby A Bloodred Moon » Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:52 am

Zukchiva wrote:Not sure this is an actual history question, but are there 11 prior constitutions that Lazarus has had since it was founded? Given that Mandate 12 is named as it is, I'm wondering if it's the 12th constitution of Lazarus of if it was just a name thing to make it sound cool.

It is.
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Postby WayNeacTia » Fri Jan 24, 2020 2:33 am

A Bloodred Moon wrote:
Zukchiva wrote:Not sure this is an actual history question, but are there 11 prior constitutions that Lazarus has had since it was founded? Given that Mandate 12 is named as it is, I'm wondering if it's the 12th constitution of Lazarus of if it was just a name thing to make it sound cool.

It is.

Is there a coup mandated into this version? :p
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Postby Wabbitslayah » Fri Jan 24, 2020 3:32 am

Johanneslanden wrote:Someone in the feeder names thread said they thought the sinkers used to be UCRs before they were made sinkers
Was wondering if it's true

Osiris was a UCR at one point, but I don't believe it existed in the game in any form at the time right before being made a sinker.
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Postby Bormiar » Fri Jan 24, 2020 8:12 am

Johanneslanden wrote:Someone in the feeder names thread said they thought the sinkers used to be UCRs before they were made sinkers
Was wondering if it's true

Go here and search the sinkers, looking for founders. So only Osiris was a UCR.

I'm not sure whether this was the original thread, but this link is relevant and potentially helpful.

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Postby ROM » Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:15 am

Zukchiva wrote:Not sure this is an actual history question, but are there 11 prior constitutions that Lazarus has had since it was founded? Given that Mandate 12 is named as it is, I'm wondering if it's the 12th constitution of Lazarus of if it was just a name thing to make it sound cool.

Yes, Mandate 12 is the 12th Constitution that Laz has had. For example, Mandate 6 was the constitution for Emerald Laz, while Mandate 8 was the constitution for the PRL, and it was the Mandate that Stujenske violated as Delegate of Lazarus when he did the NLO Coup with Milo, Feux, AMOM, and Sweet Leaf.
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Postby Wabbitslayah » Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:27 am

Bormiar wrote:
Johanneslanden wrote:Someone in the feeder names thread said they thought the sinkers used to be UCRs before they were made sinkers
Was wondering if it's true

Go here and search the sinkers, looking for founders. So only Osiris was a UCR.

I'm not sure whether this was the original thread, but this link is relevant and potentially helpful.

and the only important post in that thread is this: viewtopic.php?p=7544336#p7544336

Goob approved.
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Postby Syberis » Fri Jan 24, 2020 9:43 am

Wabbitslayah wrote:
Bormiar wrote:Go here and search the sinkers, looking for founders. So only Osiris was a UCR.

I'm not sure whether this was the original thread, but this link is relevant and potentially helpful.

and the only important post in that thread is this: viewtopic.php?p=7544336#p7544336

Goob approved.


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Postby Unibot III » Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:37 am

ROM wrote:
Zukchiva wrote:Not sure this is an actual history question, but are there 11 prior constitutions that Lazarus has had since it was founded? Given that Mandate 12 is named as it is, I'm wondering if it's the 12th constitution of Lazarus of if it was just a name thing to make it sound cool.

Yes, Mandate 12 is the 12th Constitution that Laz has had. For example, Mandate 6 was the constitution for Emerald Laz, while Mandate 8 was the constitution for the PRL, and it was the Mandate that Stujenske violated as Delegate of Lazarus when he did the NLO Coup with Milo, Feux, AMOM, and Sweet Leaf.


Is there a list with the different Mandates' ? That could make for a useful and interesting index.

Does the Undead Dominion count there as a Mandate?

Mandate 8 - People's Republic
Mandate 9 - Republic of Lazarus
Mandate 10 - Celestial Union
Mandate 11 - Undead Dominion ?
Mandate 12 - LazCorp
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Postby Lord Dominator » Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:41 am

Unibot III wrote:
ROM wrote:Yes, Mandate 12 is the 12th Constitution that Laz has had. For example, Mandate 6 was the constitution for Emerald Laz, while Mandate 8 was the constitution for the PRL, and it was the Mandate that Stujenske violated as Delegate of Lazarus when he did the NLO Coup with Milo, Feux, AMOM, and Sweet Leaf.


Is there a list with the different Mandates' ? That could make for a useful and interesting index.

Does the Undead Dominion count there as a Mandate?

Mandate 8 - People's Republic
Mandate 9 - Republic of Lazarus
Mandate 10 - Celestial Union
Mandate 11 - Undead Dominion ?
Mandate 12 - LazCorp

Undead is counted yes, Khanate is not.

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Postby Drop Your Pants » Fri Jan 24, 2020 1:02 pm

Mandate 3 was Yaman Council, think 4 and 5 were Emerald Council which was when I joined. Going by the wiki, Mandate 1 was Lies Incorporated with the original and Mandate 2 was Undead.
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Postby Cormactopia Prime » Sat Jan 25, 2020 1:33 am

Lord Dominator wrote:Undead is counted yes, Khanate is not.

There was never any Mandate (or any other type of constitution) under the Khanate anyway, so one couldn't have been counted.
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Postby Fransmany » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:36 pm

Is there a way to see which nations that have lived in a region the longest? I though the Texas Dossier showed this, but I seem to be mistaken.

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Postby Lord Dominator » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:52 pm

Fransmany wrote:Is there a way to see which nations that have lived in a region the longest? I though the Texas Dossier showed this, but I seem to be mistaken.

Find the regional rankings, sort by residency. It has minor issues in that there's a decent number of people all sharing the same score because of how the initial number was calculated, but it's otherwise your best bet (also does not account for any brief period out-of-region, longest continuous only).

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