NS History: You've Got Questions, We've Got Answers!

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

I think I was thinking of Ile de France or The Old Raiding Club.

Speaking of which I've stumbled on a very comprehensive DEN history dispatch: https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=604141

Interesting. How hard was that to find?

Gotta love the footer there.

[Mallorea and Riva]

Interesting. How hard was that to find?

Gotta love the footer there.

Yeah I can only vouch for the operations I was in, Catholic and Stargate. Obviously the most recent reincarnation of DEN was completely tainted by Predator.

[Tim-Opolis]

Interesting. How hard was that to find?

Gotta love the footer there.

It's a shame. Gest, Ivo, and the lot ensured that the only thing DEN will be remembered for is being permanently banned from the game for Predator.

[Pax Nerdvana]

Gotta love the footer there.

Yeah I can only vouch for the operations I was in, Catholic and Stargate. Obviously the most recent reincarnation of DEN was completely tainted by Predator.

You're a raider?

[Jakker]

Yeah I can only vouch for the operations I was in, Catholic and Stargate. Obviously the most recent reincarnation of DEN was completely tainted by Predator.

You're a raider?

Mall was quite the evil raider with The Black Hawks and DEN. I got to lead his first raid run back in the day <3

[Unibot III]

You're a raider?

Mall was quite the evil raider with The Black Hawks and DEN. I got to lead his first raid run back in the day <3

And I led his first defense.

It's ...complicated.

[Chingis]

What does DEN stand for?

Nothing

Just capitalized version of the word den.

[Pax Nerdvana]

Mall was quite the evil raider with The Black Hawks and DEN. I got to lead his first raid run back in the day <3

And I led his first defense.

It's ...complicated.

Long story kind of complicated?

[Unibot III]

And I led his first defense.

It's ...complicated.

Long story kind of complicated?

Mallorea was an early Lieutenant in the UDL. I had remorselessly scoured the WA for authors that could defend in their spare time.

He showed a lot of promise, but running missions on the side with TBH kind of a no-no.

[Mallorea and Riva]

Long story kind of complicated?

Mallorea was an early Lieutenant in the UDL. I had remorselessly scoured the WA for authors that could defend in their spare time.

He showed a lot of promise, but running missions on the side with TBH kind of a no-no.

Unless I remember wrong I think I was in the very first batch of LTs. Spartz was second in command, and I think it was me, Belschaft, and Harm. Elu maybe? I don't recall, it was so long ago.

Pax Nerdvana: I'm happy to give my history via TG if you have specific questions, otherwise I don't want to accidentally drag this thread into me reminiscing about the exciting times of 2011/2012

[Unibot III]

Mallorea was an early Lieutenant in the UDL. I had remorselessly scoured the WA for authors that could defend in their spare time.

He showed a lot of promise, but running missions on the side with TBH kind of a no-no.

Unless I remember wrong I think I was in the very first batch of LTs. Spartz was second in command, and I think it was me, Belschaft, and Harm. Elu maybe? I don't recall, it was so long ago.

You were! The first batch was you and Harm. Spartz was Chief Lieutenant, being my (backstabbing ) twin brother and all.

With the UDL, I ran the organization with a skeleton crew through the summer before its "official" launch on Sept 1st - and you joined quite early: Mid-July.

Congratulations to our first Chiefs of Staff.

Chief Lieutenant ~ Spartzerium
Our Lieutenants ~ Harmoneia, Mallorea and Riva
Chief Herald ~ Bazlantis
Chief of Intelligence ~ Eluvatar
Chief of Printing ~ Mahaj
Chief of Recruitment ~ Jeux

All of the Chiefs on the list below the Lieutenants will need Deputy Chiefs to help them do work, so please post here if you're interested in helping a Chief.

(Mahaj never really understood what his mandate was supposed to be.)

[Pax Nerdvana]

Unless I remember wrong I think I was in the very first batch of LTs. Spartz was second in command, and I think it was me, Belschaft, and Harm. Elu maybe? I don't recall, it was so long ago.

You were! The first batch was you and Harm. Spartz was Chief Lieutenant, being my (backstabbing ) twin brother and all.

With the UDL, I ran the organization with a skeleton crew through the summer before its "official" launch on Sept 1st - and you joined quite early: Mid-July.

Congratulations to our first Chiefs of Staff.

Chief Lieutenant ~ Spartzerium
Our Lieutenants ~ Harmoneia, Mallorea and Riva
Chief Herald ~ Bazlantis
Chief of Intelligence ~ Eluvatar
Chief of Printing ~ Mahaj
Chief of Recruitment ~ Jeux

All of the Chiefs on the list below the Lieutenants will need Deputy Chiefs to help them do work, so please post here if you're interested in helping a Chief.

(Mahaj never really understood what his mandate was supposed to be.)

I'm not in R/Ding, so this all quite fascinating too me. Thanks for sharing everyone.

[Unibot III]

"Who was the oldest nation?" is a common question here, so I thought this post might interest some folks. It's a membership list of the pre-Jolt list forum. It shows Blau and Last Hope having created accounts on NS's big day, November 12.

The Most Glorious Hack
28-10-2003, 08:58
Moved to Tech

Also, [violet] is the oldest account. I believe Maxtopia was the first nation created. Last Hope does appear to be the oldest extant nation, however.

[violet] 08 Oct 2002
Blau 12 Nov 2002
Last Hope 12 Nov 2002
Elysium 13 Nov 2002
Grand Fenwick 13 Nov 2002
Swizzlestick 14 Nov 2002
Thomasia 15 Nov 2002
Bacculum 16 Nov 2002
Shrub 17 Nov 2002
Elbonia 18 Nov 2002

Of course, not all of those still exist...

Last Hope and Grand Fenwick are still around. Thomasia became a well known player in NS through AA and the Met.

[Tinhampton]

NS's big day, November 12

I always thought that November the 13th was the date to watch out for... but please, correct me if I am mistaken.

[Pax Nerdvana]

NS's big day, November 12

I always thought that November the 13th was the date to watch out for... but please, correct me if I am mistaken.

Same. I also thought it was the 13th.

[Unibot III]

Hmmm. In 2003/2004, Max celebrated NS' anniversary on November 13.

In 2012/2005, he celebrated it on November 12.

The UN page says "From the rise of civilization (November 13, 2002)" and NSUN#01 from the pre-game, "Fight The Axis Of Evil" was passed November 12, 2002.

History changelog says Nov 13, but that's not necessarily the date of the change.

v1.0 (13-Nov-02)
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Site goes live!

There's evidence for both dates. I'm more familiar with Nov 12 as the date of NS' creation. Although now that you mention it, even I set TRR's time capsule to open on Nov 13. *rubs his forehead* Not sure. My sense from the evidence is that November 12 is right - and the Change log is misleading. Especially given people were signing up to NS' forum on Nov 12.

[Conservative Values]

Hmmm. In 2003/2004, Max celebrated NS' anniversary on November 13.

In 2012/2005, he celebrated it on November 12.

The UN page says "From the rise of civilization (November 13, 2002)" and NSUN#01 from the pre-game, "Fight The Axis Of Evil" was passed November 12, 2002.

History changelog says Nov 13, but that's not necessarily the date of the change.

v1.0 (13-Nov-02)
----------------
Site goes live!

There's evidence for both dates. I'm more familiar with Nov 12 as the date of NS' creation. Although now that you mention it, even I set TRR's time capsule to open on Nov 13. *rubs his forehead* Not sure. My sense from the evidence is that November 12 is right - and the Change log is misleading. Especially given people were signing up to NS' forum on Nov 12.

The game also says that the last WA resolution passed on January 15th, but someone in Melbourne, Australia could have cast their vote for it on January 16th.

It could just be that when it comes to what day it is, Max is usually wrong.

[Jakker]

I find it rather perplexing that Unibot was given the OP of this thread. I mean I get that from a in-game standpoint he makes sense, but seems a little odd to give a player of his history such a platform. Maybe that's just me

[Reploid Productions]

I find it rather perplexing that Unibot was given the OP of this thread. I mean I get that from a in-game standpoint he makes sense, but seems a little odd to give a player of his history such a platform. Maybe that's just me

I like to think of it as using his powers for good. Regardless of personal reputation, I don't think anybody can argue against his abilities at digging into and reporting on NS historical info!

[The Grim Reaper]

I find it rather perplexing that Unibot was given the OP of this thread. I mean I get that from a in-game standpoint he makes sense, but seems a little odd to give a player of his history such a platform. Maybe that's just me

I like to think of it as using his powers for good. Regardless of personal reputation, I don't think anybody can argue against his abilities at digging into and reporting on NS historical info!

This is a fairly disingenous deflection, Reppy.

[Reploid Productions]

I like to think of it as using his powers for good. Regardless of personal reputation, I don't think anybody can argue against his abilities at digging into and reporting on NS historical info!

This is a fairly disingenous deflection, Reppy.

Not sure what I'm deflecting, that is literally the exact reason it was given to Unibot. Yes, the player has some baggage, but "good at organizing/finding/reporting historical info" was the primary consideration, not the fact he's got a "III" on his nation name.

[USS Monitor]

I like to think of it as using his powers for good. Regardless of personal reputation, I don't think anybody can argue against his abilities at digging into and reporting on NS historical info!

This is a fairly disingenous deflection, Reppy.

It's true that he's good at digging up weird old trivia.

[Feux]

This is a fairly disingenous deflection, Reppy.

It's true that he's good at digging up weird old trivia.

...and information some of us consider important too.

[Mallorea and Riva]

If anyone has any actual concern about the choice in OP, submit a GHR. Let's not clutter up this thread with it. Unibot as the OP was my initial idea, he was picked due to his enthusiasm for NS history, his talent for researching such history, and his consistent activity over time. If you've got a problem with it, GHR. We now return to your regularly scheduled history.

[Almonaster Nuevo]

Not directly an NS question, but... the Farkers feature strongly in NS history, particularly early on. I know nothing about Fark. What was it? How big was it? Is it still going? Why did so many Farkers show up here?