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Postby Blackbird » Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:58 am

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:
Pergamon wrote:Hopefully I won't offend anyone with this question from me. But who was the greatest Troll ever to be seen in the history of NS and what did he do?

Franco's Spain caused a fascist ideology that's gone on to be a major political factor in other games, GG.


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Postby Blackbird » Thu Sep 18, 2014 2:25 pm

Darkesia wrote:Sigged. This has made my whole day.


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Postby Ikania » Thu Sep 18, 2014 3:26 pm

Whatever happened to the 'Free Republic' category? While browsing the internet archive I came across an early edition of NS, and even though the nation creation function didn't quite work, I could still fill out the form. There were some other categories for the country I can't remember, but you could call your nation the Free Republic of @@NAME@@. Any reason why it's not here anymore?
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Thu Sep 18, 2014 4:52 pm

Ballotonia wrote:Let's out-nitpick that: there are moments when the update order changes. That's when it is possible for a region which updated at the end of the prior update to update next time at the beginning of the update. For a while update order was even randomized so this happened all the time. This cuts it down to closer to 11 hours. Then there are the update errors: an update that is started an hour or more later than it was supposed to. Or back in the old days... an update which lasted close to 24 hours and had to be killed off because the next one was about to start (updates were 24 hours apart back then).

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Postby Mereon » Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:57 pm

Do any of you remember that F7 choose your own adventure type thread about Jenny? You know where I can find it, or was it deleted along with the other old F7 posts? I didn't have this nation for Jenny, but my last one was around. I should've saved it.
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Postby Tano » Fri Sep 19, 2014 7:58 pm

Mereon wrote:Do any of you remember that F7 choose your own adventure type thread about Jenny? You know where I can find it, or was it deleted along with the other old F7 posts? I didn't have this nation for Jenny, but my last one was around. I should've saved it.

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Postby Toronina » Fri Sep 19, 2014 8:01 pm

Who were some of the most infamous nations? And what did they do?
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Postby Ikania » Sat Sep 20, 2014 3:00 pm

Ikania wrote:Whatever happened to the 'Free Republic' category? While browsing the internet archive I came across an early edition of NS, and even though the nation creation function didn't quite work, I could still fill out the form. There were some other categories for the country I can't remember, but you could call your nation the Free Republic of @@NAME@@. Any reason why it's not here anymore?
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Postby Reploid Productions » Sat Sep 20, 2014 11:06 pm

Toronina wrote:Who were some of the most infamous nations? And what did they do?

Ur... which flavor of infamy are we talking here? Rulebreaking infamy? (Sorry, mods aren't likely to answer except mentioning vague code nicknames on any of those.) Gameplay infamy like prominent raiders?
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Postby Riemstagrad » Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:28 am

Ikania wrote:
Ikania wrote:Whatever happened to the 'Free Republic' category? While browsing the internet archive I came across an early edition of NS, and even though the nation creation function didn't quite work, I could still fill out the form. There were some other categories for the country I can't remember, but you could call your nation the Free Republic of @@NAME@@. Any reason why it's not here anymore?


http://www.nationstates.net/HISTORY

the changelog doesn't mention this, but there have been some tweeks of the "nation type" thing.

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Postby Ballotonia » Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:31 am

Ikania wrote:Whatever happened to the 'Free Republic' category? While browsing the internet archive I came across an early edition of NS, and even though the nation creation function didn't quite work, I could still fill out the form. There were some other categories for the country I can't remember, but you could call your nation the Free Republic of @@NAME@@. Any reason why it's not here anymore?


Do you haver a link for that? I cannot find any reference to "Free Republic" in our codebase history. Perhaps it was from a time before the current NS code versioning log (March 2004).

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Postby Ikania » Sun Sep 21, 2014 6:39 am

Ballotonia wrote:
Ikania wrote:Whatever happened to the 'Free Republic' category? While browsing the internet archive I came across an early edition of NS, and even though the nation creation function didn't quite work, I could still fill out the form. There were some other categories for the country I can't remember, but you could call your nation the Free Republic of @@NAME@@. Any reason why it's not here anymore?


Do you haver a link for that? I cannot find any reference to "Free Republic" in our codebase history. Perhaps it was from a time before the current NS code versioning log (March 2004).

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http://web.archive.org/web/200502070455 ... index.cgi/
No Free Republic actually, must have been thinking of something else. But there are two categories that aren't here now, Sultanate and Holy Republic. Any idea why?
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Postby Ballotonia » Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:27 am

Ikania wrote:http://web.archive.org/web/20050207045502/http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/
No Free Republic actually, must have been thinking of something else. But there are two categories that aren't here now, Sultanate and Holy Republic. Any idea why?


Sultanate is still an active category, it's in the list.

On May 15, 2009, "Holy Republic" was removed and both "Matriarchy" and "United Kingdom" were added to the list.
No record was made as to why, but a likely reason is overlap with "Holy Empire" and simply "Republic".

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Postby Ikania » Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:42 am

Ballotonia wrote:
Ikania wrote:http://web.archive.org/web/20050207045502/http://www.nationstates.net/cgi-bin/index.cgi/
No Free Republic actually, must have been thinking of something else. But there are two categories that aren't here now, Sultanate and Holy Republic. Any idea why?


Sultanate is still an active category, it's in the list.

On May 15, 2009, "Holy Republic" was removed and both "Matriarchy" and "United Kingdom" were added to the list.
No record was made as to why, but a likely reason is overlap with "Holy Empire" and simply "Republic".

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Sorry, I meant Emirate.
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Postby Ballotonia » Sun Sep 21, 2014 11:43 am

Ikania wrote:Sorry, I meant Emirate.


Emirate, too, is still in the list of default nation classifications these days.

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Postby Ikania » Sun Sep 21, 2014 2:58 pm

Ballotonia wrote:
Ikania wrote:Sorry, I meant Emirate.


Emirate, too, is still in the list of default nation classifications these days.

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Actually, I just found Free Republic. It's all the way back from 2002, so there might not be any logs of it, but as of November 25, 2002, there was a Free Republic.
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Postby Joe Bobs » Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:31 am

Who holds the record for longest run as head or leader of a region? As in Delegate, President, etc. only counting regions with at least some activity and several participants. Also would be interested to count any with only brief interruptions to their premiership.
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Postby Applebania » Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:41 am

Joe Bobs wrote:Who holds the record for longest run as head or leader of a region? As in Delegate, President, etc. only counting regions with at least some activity and several participants. Also would be interested to count any with only brief interruptions to their premiership.


Mikeswill, with NewTexas in second, I think.
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Postby The Sapientia » Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:29 am

Who would you say has done the most to help out the NS Community?
I know this is a vague question, but I can't find a better way to phrase it..
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Postby Zaolat » Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:04 am

The Sapientia wrote:Who would you say has done the most to help out the NS Community?
I know this is a vague question, but I can't find a better way to phrase it..

I think it would be better to ask off the top of your head which players have done the most to help out the NS community? You might want to be specific though if you're referring to gameplay.
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Postby Joe Bobs » Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:45 am

The Sapientia wrote:Who would you say has done the most to help out the NS Community?
I know this is a vague question, but I can't find a better way to phrase it..


I think everyone would give a different answer. I'd say it's the people who have helped the communities of NS keep going who have done the most good. For me that would be people like Northern Chittowa in the GRA, who even when he's been bored of NS and has stopped playing makes sure he logs in every few days to ensure the community has what it needs. All the long lasting communities of NS have one or more people like that, many don't get recognition outside those communities.


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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Mon Sep 22, 2014 10:52 am

Applebania wrote:
Joe Bobs wrote:Who holds the record for longest run as head or leader of a region? As in Delegate, President, etc. only counting regions with at least some activity and several participants. Also would be interested to count any with only brief interruptions to their premiership.


Mikeswill, with NewTexas in second, I think.

Actually, I think NewTexas may really be first. Some years back there was a glitch during update that lead to quite a few nations losing their delegacy. If I recall the story correctly, NewTexas lost his, but gained it back the following update.
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Postby Ikania » Mon Sep 22, 2014 4:29 pm

The Sapientia wrote:Who would you say has done the most to help out the NS Community?
I know this is a vague question, but I can't find a better way to phrase it..

Afforess got deleted a while ago, but I'd say he's arguably a huge contributor. He created the immensely useful tool NS++ and spent a lot of time and money on it, as well as creating a new NSwiki, which unfortunately doesn't seem to be making any progress.

Aside from that there's Hobbes, who hosts forums for multiple regions with his own money as well as creating RadioNS, a short-lived internet radio station playing great tunes and talking about NS-wide events.

That's only in recent memory, though. I joined in early 2013. If we're talking about the most influential nations of all time, I've heard that Francos Spain basically started everything.
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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Mon Sep 22, 2014 5:03 pm

Neither Hobbes nor Afforess belong in that conversation.
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