NS History: You've Got Questions, We've Got Answers!

[Frattastan]

TPC already had an offsite forum in May, and I'm quite sure they weren't the first ones either.

[Vorshka]

Can someone tell me how the GGR was formed?

[Jamie Anumia]

Can someone tell me how the GGR was formed?

It's current incarnation? It was likely formed after the previous controllers (an anti-nazi alliance) accidentally let the founder CTE.

[Vorshka]

Can someone tell me how the GGR was formed?

It's current incarnation? It was likely formed after the previous controllers (an anti-nazi alliance) accidentally let the founder CTE.

CTE?

[Jamie Anumia]

It's current incarnation? It was likely formed after the previous controllers (an anti-nazi alliance) accidentally let the founder CTE.

CTE?

Ceased to Exist. (When a nation cte's after 28 days, or 60 on vacation mode, nations can also CTE by mod deletion)

[Letoilenoir]

I seem to recall that some enterprising soul did an analysis of the movement of newly created nations and where they moved to - anyone know where it might be found and if it would be possible to compare the pre and post auto telegram ban?

EDIT: Actually found it, will have to have a word with Mr McCloud (Dennis Weaver?)

[Argyres]

For what it's worth, that history sounds more like Mammothistan than BlackAdder to me, although I talked to BA on a more informal basis and didn't read many of his "NPO-ish" posts.

My impression of the Pacific around that time mirrors what else has been said - TheDoc was definitely not as ideological/strict/what have you as the NPO ended up being, but the region was hardly some sort of desolate anarchy. The rapid creation of a cohesive anti-NPO movement driven by banned natives would also seem to be a clear point against that characterization.

[Bigfist]

Can someone give me the best history of South America you can? I'm always interested in learning more about my region.

P.S. I joined in about 2010, so anything after that isn't really important.

Anyone? Will anyone answer my question?

[The Bruce]

Folk history says TheDoc's Pacific was the first region to have an off-site forum even.

Not sure if your Wayback link in the subsequent post was supposed to date the start of TP's forum, but I know of at least 2 regions that had forums around earlier in June.

Monkey Island's first member joined the forums on 2 June 2003. (First user)
Texas's first member joined the forums on 8 June 2003. (First user)

I wasn't active then (I didn't join the game until August of that year), so I can't offer a personal account as to "who had forums first." And, it's possible that TP (or another region) had forums prior to that. Can any of the other Antiquities clarify any further?

Wysteria has posts in our offsite forum from March 2003 and the Heartlands had their forum for a couple months before we did. There was also a Farker invader Yahoo group to hash out strategy (not a real forum) as far back as the end of January 2003, before they got their own Invisionfree forum later in April.

[Blackbird]

Can someone give me the best history of South America you can? I'm always interested in learning more about my region.

P.S. I joined in about 2010, so anything after that isn't really important.

Anyone? Will anyone answer my question?

You're asking about a specific region. This is the gameplay forum. Generally speaking, if your region didn't participate in "gameplay" as in raider/defender gameplay, most of us here probably won't know about your region, unless it was invaded at some point. So if you weren't invaded or the site of a battle, and didn't participate in gameplay, no one here will probably. One of the problems of NationStates is in the insularity of the regional communities; if you don't want to play with others and you have a founder, you don't have to. I'm sure there are dozens of vibrant communities entirely lost to us, simply because none of us remembers them besides those who left.

[Jamie Anumia]

Anyone? Will anyone answer my question?

You're asking about a specific region. This is the gameplay forum. Generally speaking, if your region didn't participate in "gameplay" as in raider/defender gameplay, most of us here probably won't know about your region, unless it was invaded at some point. So if you weren't invaded or the site of a battle, and didn't participate in gameplay, no one here will probably. One of the problems of NationStates is in the insularity of the regional communities; if you don't want to play with others and you have a founder, you don't have to. I'm sure there are dozens of vibrant communities entirely lost to us, simply because none of us remembers them besides those who left.

South America was the centre of a rather notable endorsement battle in 2010(09 even?), however. It was notable just to TITO deploying an extremely large number of WA's. The count was - 96-66. (Defender-Raider)

[Blackbird]

You're asking about a specific region. This is the gameplay forum. Generally speaking, if your region didn't participate in "gameplay" as in raider/defender gameplay, most of us here probably won't know about your region, unless it was invaded at some point. So if you weren't invaded or the site of a battle, and didn't participate in gameplay, no one here will probably. One of the problems of NationStates is in the insularity of the regional communities; if you don't want to play with others and you have a founder, you don't have to. I'm sure there are dozens of vibrant communities entirely lost to us, simply because none of us remembers them besides those who left.

South America was the centre of a rather notable endorsement battle in 2010(09 even?), however. It was notable just to TITO deploying an extremely large number of WA's. The count was - 96-66. (Defender-Raider)

Well, there we go. Case in point.

[Sedgistan]

It was also regularly targeted by an invader group variably referred to (within the FRA at least) as Shadow Warriors/the Genesis Defense Project/Nicaragua, which had a thing for invading/re-founding South American themed regions (plus plenty of others). That group died out in 2010 or so (my memory of exactly when is vague), and most their regions CTEd.

[Bigfist]

Yeah, all I know is we've been raided numerous, numerous times. I was just wondering. Thanks for the help.

[Crushing Our Enemies]

You're asking about a specific region. This is the gameplay forum. Generally speaking, if your region didn't participate in "gameplay" as in raider/defender gameplay, most of us here probably won't know about your region, unless it was invaded at some point. So if you weren't invaded or the site of a battle, and didn't participate in gameplay, no one here will probably. One of the problems of NationStates is in the insularity of the regional communities; if you don't want to play with others and you have a founder, you don't have to. I'm sure there are dozens of vibrant communities entirely lost to us, simply because none of us remembers them besides those who left.

South America was the centre of a rather notable endorsement battle in 2010(09 even?), however. It was notable just to TITO deploying an extremely large number of WA's. The count was - 96-66. (Defender-Raider)

If memory serves, the raider faction was led by DEN Army, under the command of General Franks.

EDIT: I think memory fails, actually. That was something else. I think Franks conducted a long-term occupation of SA at one time, lasting more than a couple months.

[Frattastan]

Asking old regional members (even those who may have left) or people who in the past had contacts with your region, checking old forums of SA or of regions that had close relations with SA and using tools such as the Web Archive (here is the invasion CoE was referring to. and here you can see SA when Uropia was still around!) or Texas' NSHistory are generally good ways to know more about your regional history.

[Blackbird]

I'll ask a question: how many Meritocratic Senators are still around? I know the Proconsul from Big D Baby is around. Anyone else?

[Argyres]

Nobody important


There's a few idling in the region but not, as far as I know, doing much in the game - Winni, Weg, Eureka, Frap, Warrior Thorin, Bumpi. A couple I want to say were senators but not significant figures (OddsEnds and Valcoma or something like that). I think Eli might be around in some form(?).

[Blackbird]

Nobody important


There's a few idling in the region but not, as far as I know, doing much in the game - Winni, Weg, Eureka, Frap, Warrior Thorin, Bumpi. A couple I want to say were senators but not significant figures (OddsEnds and Valcoma or something like that). I think Eli might be around in some form(?).

Ah. And of course, a dashingly handsome Greek Proconsul as well.

Who were OddsEnds and Valcoma? I don't recall them.

[Argyres]

I guess I got Valcoma mixed up with someone else. OddsEnds was from ACCEL or something.

PopeHope is technically still around too, lest I forget. Tuesday Heights was a senator too, although she resigned during one of the many NPO/anti-NPO brouhahas

[Blackbird]

I guess I got Valcoma mixed up with someone else. OddsEnds was from ACCEL or something.

PopeHope is technically still around too, lest I forget. Tuesday Heights was a senator too, although she resigned during one of the many NPO/anti-NPO brouhahas

PH never came back after the Charter Senate, though.

That leads me to wonder actually: how many people lasted through all the incarnations of the Senate? Charter, Accords, Pact?

[Argyres]

I'm too lazy to check join dates (to see if people were around for the Charter) or who signed the Pact but I imagine very few.

People i'm sure about: Winni, You.
Not sure w/regards to the pact: Myself, Jasque, Eli, Aesculapius, Moldavi
Not sure w/regards to the Charter: Big D, Warrior Thorin, CF
Not sure in general: Camo (was definitely a Senator under the Charter but didn't really do anything in the government and I don't remember what his status was afterwards). Ditto for Lady Rebels, although I dont think she was around for the Pact anyway. Eureka was a Senator off and on but was mostly an RPer post-Charter.

Mammothistan is an odd case too, he was in the Senate under at least two names (at different times, of course) but I don't know if it covers all three time periods. Tom wasn't around for the Pact, if I remember correctly; I'm pretty sure the same is true for Corintur but i could be wrong.

Others I'm unsure about; Nuclear Industrial.

*Edited for accuracy*

[Blackbird]

I'm too lazy to check join dates (to see if people were around for the Charter) or who signed the Pact but I imagine very few.

People i'm sure about: Winni.
Not sure w/regards to the pact: Myself, Jasque, Eli.
Not sure w/regards to the Charter: You, Big D, Warrior Thorin
Not sure in general: Camo (was definitely a Senator under the Charter but didn't really do anything in the government and I don't remember what his status was afterwards). Ditto for Lady Rebels, although I dont think she was around for the Pact anyway. Eureka was a Senator off and on but was mostly an RPer post-Charter.

Mammothistan is an odd case too, he was in the Senate under at least two names (at different times, of course) but I don't know if it covers all three time periods. Tom wasn't around for the Pact, I'm pretty sure the same is true for Corintur but i could be wrong.

hmm...probably forgetting someone

I was in the Charter. I was Unistrut's Deputy Quaestor, and then Quaestor for almost every Consul after that in the Charter.

[Argyres]

Well, at least now we know why the Charter failed

[Blackbird]

Well, at least now we know why the Charter failed

Well, I place the blame squarely on the Consul who voted for my admittance. Do you remember who that was?