NationStates

Darkesia wrote:Sounds like Roleplay rather than GP.
If you are looking to formalize races within NS, I'm guessing that will fall squarely in RP. GPers are too lazy to bother with cannon and the like, so you would have to make your racism a populist movement as TAO & Mr. Stick did with anti-marsupialism in TWP and the NSverse. That took years to establish.

I think TWP and Fedele's TEP took anti-marsupialism to about as far as it could go in a GP setting. And now with the fires IRL, it seems in poor taste to revive such a thing. Just my opinion.

Bodger wrote:

The Blaatschapen wrote:
We already have enough home-grown racists in NS

Yes, but no. We have enough racists in NS imported with RL racial ideas, but none based on home grown NS races.

In my hierarchy;

Individual
|
NS Family
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Race (Germany, Bigtopian, Marsupial)
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Region
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Organisation (e.g. TGW if you are joining it to take part in defending, while you are a remember if another region)
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Ideology (R/D, Nat Sov vs Int Fed for GA, Pro Choice/Life, Psychotic Dictatorships vs Civil Rights Fest etc)

Race is intertwined with Region for most of NS and you'll really only distinguish it in wehrboo regions, where their race is Prussia or Germany and their region is X. And the race was imported or inspired directly from RL

On the other hand the only home grown race I can think of is Marsupial and that's famous for no one wanting to be one.

(Unless we are claiming sheep and goats to be a race )

Most of gameplay is concerned with politics between Regions vs individuals or Region vs ideology etc or Organisation vs Organisation. Again it's often blurred.

My idea is introduce a home-grown concept of Race to NS. NS issues seemed to be the best place to start since there is such rich lore to play with. To clarify, I don't actually want the Skandilunders to be a 1 to 1 substitute of Nordic, Aryan Supermen but it is its own NS home grown race and culture that was partly inspired by Scandinavia.

Once that's done I can also invent racism...hence creating a better class of home grown racists.

In any case, I am (very, very) slowly working on reviving Bigtopia both as a race and region. Central to that is creating a compendium of everything related to Bigtopia in the game.

In my wild imagination, I hope to see players identifying themselves as part of the Bigtopian race, regardless of their region. The Bigtopia diaspora spreads far and wide and has integrated into the communities of many regions.

Then I want to hear of regions being subverted by Bigtopians, converted into passing laws to only select Pro Bigtopian issue answers.

-'B'odger. Boastful Bigtopian Racist.

Darkesia wrote:Sounds like Roleplay rather than GP.
If you are looking to formalize races within NS, I'm guessing that will fall squarely in RP. GPers are too lazy to bother with cannon and the like, so you would have to make your racism a populist movement as TAO & Mr. Stick did with anti-marsupialism in TWP and the NSverse. That took years to establish.

I think TWP and Fedele's TEP took anti-marsupialism to about as far as it could go in a GP setting. And now with the fires IRL, it seems in poor taste to revive such a thing. Just my opinion.

The Blaatschapen wrote:Hey, is there a chill discord where all the gameplayers hang out regardless of faction? I just want to hang back and make puns

Flanderlion wrote:

The Blaatschapen wrote:Hey, is there a chill discord where all the gameplayers hang out regardless of faction? I just want to hang back and make puns

https://discord.gg/xgRG6M3 is probably the closest. Chill is a optimistic word when it comes to GP, but it's fine most of the time.

The Blaatschapen wrote:

Flanderlion wrote:https://discord.gg/xgRG6M3 is probably the closest. Chill is a optimistic word when it comes to GP, but it's fine most of the time.

In, but it feels like I have walked into the American politics of NSG right now

Xoriet wrote:

The Blaatschapen wrote:
In, but it feels like I have walked into the American politics of NSG right now

If it makes you feel better it’s not always politics. Sometimes there’s Disney hegemony. Other times we even discuss NS itself!

The Blaatschapen wrote:

Xoriet wrote:If it makes you feel better it’s not always politics. Sometimes there’s Disney hegemony. Other times we even discuss NS itself!

I like disney, I've been an actor in one of their movies.

Xoriet wrote:If it makes you feel better it’s not always politics. Sometimes there’s Disney hegemony. Other times we even discuss NS itself!

Xoriet wrote:

The Blaatschapen wrote:
I like disney, I've been an actor in one of their movies.

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Just wait until you get to see Evil Wolf arguing Lazarus or TSP. Or McMannia preaching HYDRA. Perhaps The Grey Wardens and The Black Hawks shitposting each other. Everything you'll find here except faster moving and with allegations of trolling for which they can't be warned.

Wayneactia wrote:

Xoriet wrote:Just wait until you get to see Evil Wolf arguing Lazarus or TSP. Or McMannia preaching HYDRA. Perhaps The Grey Wardens and The Black Hawks shitposting each other. Everything you'll find here except faster moving and with allegations of trolling for which they can't be warned.

Sounds like a big ball of laughs *sarcasm*. So that's the new meta now? Can't say shit about people on the forums, so now we take it discord where people can take flamethrowers to each other with zero consequences? I think I will take a pretty hard pass on that.

Cormactopia Prime wrote:For all the smack people talk about the NSGP server and its administration, it's really the players who make the server what it is. The admins moderate the server about as well as any other server is moderated. If so many of the people on it think it sucks, you have to wonder why they stay on it.

TL;DR: Be part of the solution instead of constantly complaining about the problem. If that server is toxic it's because gameplay is toxic.

Wayneactia wrote:Sounds like a big ball of laughs *sarcasm*. So that's the new meta now? Can't say shit about people on the forums, so now we take it discord where people can take flamethrowers to each other with zero consequences? I think I will take a pretty hard pass on that.

Wayneactia wrote:

Xoriet wrote:Just wait until you get to see Evil Wolf arguing Lazarus or TSP. Or McMannia preaching HYDRA. Perhaps The Grey Wardens and The Black Hawks shitposting each other. Everything you'll find here except faster moving and with allegations of trolling for which they can't be warned.

Sounds like a big ball of laughs *sarcasm*. So that's the new meta now? Can't say shit about people on the forums, so now we take it discord where people can take flamethrowers to each other with zero consequences? I think I will take a pretty hard pass on that.

The Notorious Mad Jack wrote:

Wayneactia wrote:
Sounds like a big ball of laughs *sarcasm*. So that's the new meta now? Can't say shit about people on the forums, so now we take it discord where people can take flamethrowers to each other with zero consequences? I think I will take a pretty hard pass on that.

Lol that isn't what the server is like at all.

Wayneactia wrote:Lol that isn't what the server is like at all.

Block II wrote:

Wayneactia wrote:Lol that isn't what the server is like at all.

See I wouldn't know, as I don't use Discord. I was asking a question, based upon the information I received here. As I said before, I prefer to keep my interaction with the game and the players, inside the game.