Neutral Ground - an Open Discussion Thread

[Fratt]

What are the chances we've got a mod-free forum? That would be truly worth it.

[Wopruthien]

Fris is still able to do things.

The FRA Cabal will live on.

[Fratt]

We survived the apocalypse because we always made the right choice. Praise the FRA!

[BEFORE INDICTING ALL THE RAIDERS VINNY]

No mods, no mods, lalalalalala.

It is kind of an interesting coincidence that the server dies right after we detag an unusually high amount of regions, again...hmm...

[Fratt]

"Sorry, minor update records have been lost, so none of your detags counts."

[Wopruthien]

Fratt.

One survived. We must purge it from the servers.

[BEFORE INDICTING ALL THE RAIDERS VINNY]

I am the personification of the server, you can't purge the soul even if the body is dead.

[RiderSyl]

Stop breaking NS with your detags, guys!

[Malphe]

Stop breaking NS with your detags, guys!

The fabric of the multiverse shall crack under the weight of my detagging.

[Mallorea and Riva]

Finally, an excuse to ban defending.

[Lord Dominator]

Finally, an excuse to ban defending.

And a reasonable excuse at that!

[Benevolent Thomas]

This has to be the most active the FRA has been in years. Gotta hand it to Joe Bobs

[RiderSyl]

Activity in the FRA?
inb4 Armageddon

[Klaus Devestatorie]

I've now had a chance to browse through Tapatalk post conversion. I'm deeply disappointed. It's not even some fancy new software they've developed themselves; it's just a heavily locked down and badly reskinned version of phpbb, i.e. what we're using here on forum.nationstates.net. Definitely self hosting everything I try from now on.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

I've now had a chance to browse through Tapatalk post conversion. I'm deeply disappointed. It's not even some fancy new software they've developed themselves; it's just a heavily locked down and badly reskinned version of phpbb, i.e. what we're using here on forum.nationstates.net. Definitely self hosting everything I try from now on.

Yep, though that was long clear from the beta board we got access to. It's a mobil-ified phpbb, with some of the features locked behind paywalls (and it costs more to access them than it would to self-host), limited ability to customize visually, and none of the normal phpbb ability to add extensions. Lovely, eh? Tapatalk wants either five bucks a month for stuff as basic as a favicon and the ability to file support tickets, and ten to do stuff like a domain, or access to their very limited custom css if you're not grandfathered into that like Zeta users were.

TBH and Osiris both managed to port over to full set up new board over a week before we got hit, luckily - we got TT'd this morning. With all the bits of the admin panel accessible, and fully custom skins, and all the extensions we could want. And it's costing Koth and I each less than $30 a year. Got a chance to check those out yet? I have one HTML fix I need to make on the TBH one (width is acting funky), but otherwise they're pretty decent.

[Mallorea and Riva]

Was all content successfully transferred by Tapatalk? It would be a shame for history to be destroyed on any forums which didn't take measures to self host.

[Klaus Devestatorie]

Was all content successfully transferred by Tapatalk? It would be a shame for history to be destroyed on any forums which didn't take measures to self host.

There's no missing posts on any forums I admin. Even the weird side things like blogs were converted to posts and dumped on a board. The losses, if anything, are the CSS and scripts for the board skins, but those would now be useless anyway.

[Mallorea and Riva]

Was all content successfully transferred by Tapatalk? It would be a shame for history to be destroyed on any forums which didn't take measures to self host.

There's no missing posts on any forums I admin. Even the weird side things like blogs were converted to posts and dumped on a board. The losses, if anything, are the CSS and scripts for the board skins, but those would now be useless anyway.

Gotcha. Still very unfortunate, but at least the historical content survived.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Was all content successfully transferred by Tapatalk? It would be a shame for history to be destroyed on any forums which didn't take measures to self host.

Yes, generally, but sometimes there’s viewing issues initially, long dead boards (KRO for example) are not bein transferred and will be killed, and TT tends to remove dead boards after a few months. So prognosis is not great for history being kept, overall.

[Insaniac]

I've now had a chance to browse through Tapatalk post conversion. I'm deeply disappointed. It's not even some fancy new software they've developed themselves; it's just a heavily locked down and badly reskinned version of phpbb, i.e. what we're using here on forum.nationstates.net. Definitely self hosting everything I try from now on.

Yep, though that was long clear from the beta board we got access to. It's a mobil-ified phpbb, with some of the features locked behind paywalls (and it costs more to access them than it would to self-host), limited ability to customize visually, and none of the normal phpbb ability to add extensions. Lovely, eh? Tapatalk wants either five bucks a month for stuff as basic as a favicon and the ability to file support tickets, and ten to do stuff like a domain, or access to their very limited custom css if you're not grandfathered into that like Zeta users were.

TBH and Osiris both managed to port over to full set up new board over a week before we got hit, luckily - we got TT'd this morning. With all the bits of the admin panel accessible, and fully custom skins, and all the extensions we could want. And it's costing Koth and I each less than $30 a year. Got a chance to check those out yet? I have one HTML fix I need to make on the TBH one (width is acting funky), but otherwise they're pretty decent.

Tapatalk is just very, well, disgusting.

Glad to see the NS communities abandoning it.

[Lord Dominator]

Yep, though that was long clear from the beta board we got access to. It's a mobil-ified phpbb, with some of the features locked behind paywalls (and it costs more to access them than it would to self-host), limited ability to customize visually, and none of the normal phpbb ability to add extensions. Lovely, eh? Tapatalk wants either five bucks a month for stuff as basic as a favicon and the ability to file support tickets, and ten to do stuff like a domain, or access to their very limited custom css if you're not grandfathered into that like Zeta users were.

TBH and Osiris both managed to port over to full set up new board over a week before we got hit, luckily - we got TT'd this morning. With all the bits of the admin panel accessible, and fully custom skins, and all the extensions we could want. And it's costing Koth and I each less than $30 a year. Got a chance to check those out yet? I have one HTML fix I need to make on the TBH one (width is acting funky), but otherwise they're pretty decent.

Tapatalk is just very, well, disgusting.

Glad to see the NS communities abandoning it.

Can't have the disgusted outrage focusing on the look of the forums instead of the government

[Sancta Romana Ecclesia]

Can't have the disgusted outrage focusing on the look of the forums instead of the government

I mean, worst government forms usually stay confined to a few meaningless regions. TapaTalk is not only more disgusting, but also more prevalent.

Good riddance. As a fun fact, some text might outright disappear following the conversion. If something was coded to be in white, it will be hidden in the white wasteland that TapaTalk likes so much for a background. My oath in one region got this treatment.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Also, custom bbcode will break. You can add it back, but it won’t apply retroactively. You have to edit and resubmit each post to get that to stick. Now, that’s true for all phpbb - but normally, you can run a simple extension that reparses all submitted text automatically. But wait - can’t run phpbb extensions on TT!

[Lord Dominator]

Can't have the disgusted outrage focusing on the look of the forums instead of the government

I mean, worst government forms usually stay confined to a few meaningless regions. TapaTalk is not only more disgusting, but also more prevalent.

Good riddance. As a fun fact, some text might outright disappear following the conversion. If something was coded to be in white, it will be hidden in the white wasteland that TapaTalk likes so much for a background. My oath in one region got this treatment.

I was more referring to standard GP griping on every government a given individual isn't in, regardless of system.

[Consular]

Anyone have any bright ideas to preserve historical boards? Since we can't get databases