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Postby The Blaatschapen » Tue Jan 19, 2016 3:23 am

Cormac Stark wrote:
Klaus Devestatorie wrote:All the meanness and spite is happening internally to our own ranks, so raiders and defenders don't have the time to do anything properly nasty to each other anymore.

This actually seems to have died down a lot on both sides, unless I'm just missing it happening -- which, not to sound egotistical, is unlikely.


The calm before the storm, maybe?

I'm sure that Gameplay can create a new controversy all by itself, it's just a matter of time :p
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:04 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Cormac Stark wrote:This actually seems to have died down a lot on both sides, unless I'm just missing it happening -- which, not to sound egotistical, is unlikely.


The calm before the storm, maybe?

I'm sure that Gameplay can create a new controversy all by itself, it's just a matter of time :p


Give it a few more seconds, I'm sure something's bound to come up.
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Tue Jan 19, 2016 5:24 am

Cormac Stark wrote:
Klaus Devestatorie wrote:All the meanness and spite is happening internally to our own ranks, so raiders and defenders don't have the time to do anything properly nasty to each other anymore.

This actually seems to have died down a lot on both sides, unless I'm just missing it happening -- which, not to sound egotistical, is unlikely.

The current calmness is a short term trend due to a lack of any immediate topics for drama. The other thing has taken about 5 years.

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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Tue Jan 19, 2016 8:54 am

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:Gameplay has been slower recently, IMHO. No masses of angry roleplayers stomping around, less contentious arguing between factions than usual, relative peace and quiet....

Alright, fess up, who's not doing their job right? :lol:

Well, I was away for a little over a month :p
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Postby Bhang Bhang Duc » Tue Jan 19, 2016 10:56 am

It's just ebbs and flows. We have had Cora and Miseley puppet-swept since the beginning of the year or has everyone forgotten?
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Postby The Silver Sentinel » Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:15 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:It's just ebbs and flows. We have had Cora and Miseley puppet-swept since the beginning of the year or has everyone forgotten?

It was a pretty exciting start to the year.

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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue Jan 19, 2016 12:47 pm

Bhang Bhang Duc wrote:It's just ebbs and flows. We have had Cora and Miseley puppet-swept since the beginning of the year or has everyone forgotten?


Sure, we had a few sparks, but neither of those were long, drawn out arguments between massive factions - rather, individual players and their individual issues. Not even a violent war or words between the reds and their anti's over the latter case!
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The color or what?..

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Postby Unibot III » Tue Jan 19, 2016 11:34 pm

Ambroscus Koth wrote:You also have no stake in the success of a UCR, so of course you don't care.


Basically yes, but I did run Dharma for a couple of years - and as a niche WA region it made recruitment difficult because we wanted to communicate to WA authors that we were a region for WA authors. A lot of WA authors just hung around in no-name regions in those days but were united as groups on the WA's forum.

Take for example, Sionis, Glen and I back in the day. Home to three separate small-time UCRs but a three-headed monster on the official forum. It eventually made sense for us to unite under one UCR but it took a few telegrams in private to agree where to call home - and before our new telegram system that kind of communication was in a grey legal area depending on if it counted as solicited or unsolicited.

At one point one keen moderator noted with regards to any reference question (and I made many on the subject of "unsolicited" telegrams) from me, it was best not to provide an answer to me beyond no. I suspect the trickiness of defining solicitation was one of the reasons moderators wanted to move to a different telegram system where contacting UCR members about joining other regions was more accessible.
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Postby Canton Empire » Wed Jan 20, 2016 5:52 am

Did Misley get Dos'ed?
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Postby Mousebumples » Wed Jan 20, 2016 6:58 am

Canton Empire wrote:Did Misley get Dos'ed?

Puppetswept. He is not DOS.
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Postby Canton Empire » Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:03 am

Mousebumples wrote:
Canton Empire wrote:Did Misley get Dos'ed?

Puppetswept. He is not DOS.

Oh ok, thanks
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Postby Caelapes » Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:23 am

Mousebumples wrote:
Canton Empire wrote:Did Misley get Dos'ed?

Puppetswept. He is not DOS.

Thank Rainbow Stalin for that! I'm no good with the command line.

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Postby Xoriet » Wed Jan 20, 2016 11:30 am

Caelapes wrote:
Mousebumples wrote:Puppetswept. He is not DOS.

Thank Rainbow Stalin for that! I'm no good with the command line.

I'll be here all week.

:o What about next week?
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Postby Riftey » Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:37 pm

Xoriet wrote:
Caelapes wrote:Thank Rainbow Stalin for that! I'm no good with the command line.

I'll be here all week.

:o What about next week?

Hopefully it's not Misley :P
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:43 pm

....and there goes the peace and quiet.
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The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
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Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

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How Do I Telegram API?

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Postby Riftey » Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:46 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:....and there goes the peace and quiet.

"A self-fulfilling prophecy is a prediction that directly or indirectly causes itself to become true, by the very terms of the prophecy itself, due to positive feedback between belief and behavior."
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Postby Caelapes » Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:48 pm

Riftey wrote:
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:....and there goes the peace and quiet.

"A self-fulfilling prophecy is a prediction that directly or indirectly causes itself to become true, by the very terms of the prophecy itself, due to positive feedback between belief and behavior."

"Each event is preceded by Prophecy. But without the hero, there is no Event."
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:48 pm

For better or for worse, I think we can all agree that "Peace and quiet" and "Rifty and NS" are not things that cohabitate well.
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The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
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Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative

How Do I Telegram API?

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Postby Riftey » Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:49 pm

If my presence is really that distressing for you I'm sure I can make sure i'll stick around. :lol2:
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:00 pm

Never said distressing. A concert ain't peaceful or quiet, but it can be fun to watch.
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The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
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Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative

How Do I Telegram API?

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Postby Riftey » Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:03 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:Never said distressing. A concert ain't peaceful or quiet, but it can be fun to watch.

True True; I dig that analogy. To continue with it I guess i'll keep strumming my guitar.
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Postby Jakker » Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:06 pm

Unibot III wrote:
Ambroscus Koth wrote:You also have no stake in the success of a UCR, so of course you don't care.


Basically yes, but I did run Dharma for a couple of years - and as a niche WA region it made recruitment difficult because we wanted to communicate to WA authors that we were a region for WA authors. A lot of WA authors just hung around in no-name regions in those days but were united as groups on the WA's forum.


Ah yes Dharma. What ever happened to that region? Oh yeah:

http://www.nationstates.net/region=east ... _of_dharma 8)
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Postby Cormac Stark » Wed Jan 20, 2016 9:35 pm

Jakker wrote:Ah yes Dharma. What ever happened to that region? Oh yeah:

http://www.nationstates.net/region=east ... _of_dharma 8)

Nice catch, I had been watching it to hawk it for quite some time but then it slipped my mind. Naturally that's when it ceased to exist. :P

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Postby Zaolat » Thu Jan 21, 2016 2:49 am

Caelapes wrote:
Riftey wrote:"A self-fulfilling prophecy is a prediction that directly or indirectly causes itself to become true, by the very terms of the prophecy itself, due to positive feedback between belief and behavior."

"Each event is preceded by Prophecy. But without the hero, there is no Event."
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Wait, this isn't Vvardenfell.


But Arctus said that way before Morrowind's time setting, even though it was first mentioned in the game.
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Postby RiderSyl » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:44 pm

I'm about to get wintered so hard. Anything I planned gameplay-wise this weekend just got owned by mother nature.
Does this mean mother nature is a defender?!
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