Neutral Ground - an Open Discussion Thread

[Deadeye Jack]

Are all Defenders apart of a hivemind now?

I'll have to consult with the queen bee for the proper response

[Pollaetorian]

Didn't you, and definitely still do, post spammy quips in an attempt to prove you and Balder are remotely relevant in gameplay?

Sorry, who are you and what have you accomplished on the scale of being a GCR delegate?

Ignoring everything else, this is hilarious. Not comparing to Rach, but Leap has a pretty well career (lol) in his own right to be deserving a 'who are you'.

And we do really consider GCR del the pinacle of gameplay?

[Consular]

Yeah, I don't agree with you when you suggested that there can be no honour among raiders and that raiding and being part of that fraternity can't be used as a reason not to raid. Personally, I find it annoying when people tag my region which used to raid and I think that there should definitely be some respect in that regard.

That's lovely but entirely disconnected from your original question. There was nothing stopping you from opening with this.

I never said there can't be honour among invaders (though I do think any such concept is inherently hypocritical). My broad point here was that raider unity is vastly overestimated by most people. It is at best inconsistently applied and is freely broken whenever it suits certain parties.

It is a very loose idea in which raiders will often reinforce each other without request. It is not and has never been an all encompassing alliance or defence pact. It makes no sense that it is used to justify not invading certain regions. Ultimately the reason people don't touch Mikeswill is simply that a lot of invaders like him.

I'm pretty sure every region finds it annoying when they are tagged and think they deserve some respect in the form of being left alone.



An an aside, Land is significantly more accomplished than both the people insulting them.

[Valrifell]

Yeah, I don't agree with you when you suggested that there can be no honour among raiders and that raiding and being part of that fraternity can't be used as a reason not to raid. Personally, I find it annoying when people tag my region which used to raid and I think that there should definitely be some respect in that regard.

An an aside, Land is significantly more accomplished than both the people insulting them.

Shhh...
If people realized that, they'd understand my point carries nothing.

[Solorni]

So what is his CV?

[Consular]

An an aside, Land is significantly more accomplished than both the people insulting them.

Shhh...
If people realized that, they'd understand my point carries nothing.

Damnit Val. I say something vaguely mean, then you say something like this, and then I feel bad coz I kinda like you.

[Valrifell]

Shhh...
If people realized that, they'd understand my point carries nothing.

Damnit Val. I say something vaguely mean, then you say something like this, and then I feel bad coz I kinda like you.

All part of the plan

I mean, uh...
You saw nothing.

[The Silver Sentinel]

No we're supposed to be the boring guys. Or maybe just the silent guys? Make up your mind

Are all Defenders apart of a hivemind now?

Yes. We also live in cubes and all have cybernetic implants. I would have figured having a leader named "Unibot" would have made that painfully obvious. Would you like to know more?

An an aside, Land is significantly more accomplished than both the people insulting them.

Shhh...
If people realized that, they'd understand my point carries nothing.

That point was understood long before you even understood it.

Weren't you and maybe still are a raider?

Didn't you, and definitely still do, post spammy quips in an attempt to prove you and Balder are remotely relevant in gameplay?

I still love you Rach, even though you are now nothing more than the figurehead of a TNI outpost.

[Solorni]

Yeah, that makes sense. Looks like all aspects of the UDL have declined heavily.

[Valrifell]

Are all Defenders apart of a hivemind now?

Yes. We also live in cubes and all have cybernetic implants. I would have figured having a leader named "Unibot" would have made that painfully obvious. Would you like to know more?

God dammit, you're right, Unibot was a dead give away...

Shhh...
If people realized that, they'd understand my point carries nothing.

That point was understood long before you even understood it.

No! My secrets have been reveled! Curses! You foiled my plans again!

[Consular]

So what is his CV?

You have a talent for latching on to the single least relevant point of any given conversation.

[The Silver Sentinel]

Yeah, that makes sense. Looks like all aspects of the UDL have declined heavily.

How so?

[Consular]

I still love you Rach, even though you are now nothing more than the figurehead of a TNI outpost.

Umm. I don't think you know anything about the current state of TNI.

Apologies if I double post, quoting on mobile is a consistent source of nightmares for me.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Shhh...
If people realized that, they'd understand my point carries nothing.

Damnit Val. I say something vaguely mean, then you say something like this, and then I feel bad coz I kinda like you.

"And that, Kids, was how I met your mother"

[Valrifell]

I still love you Rach, even though you are now nothing more than the figurehead of a TNI outpost.

Umm. I don't think you know anything about the current state of TNI.

As an insider with a decent amount of government responsibility, I can affirm we are trying here. Why, we've just completely reorganized recently.

[Solorni]

So what is his CV?

You have a talent for latching on to the single least relevant point of any given conversation.

I'm writing notes at the moment and didn't really feel like continuing to discuss the other parts, that was the part that made me curious.

How so?

The idea that Balder is an outpost of TNI is so ridiculous, I find it hard to believe you came to the conclusion rationally. Balder has very few members that share membership with TNI and are stronger internally than many other regions. Balder isn't even imperialist but independent and makes her own decisions. I should even be addressing this as it is so irrational but I have a habit of replying to things that hurt me.

Also, I wouldn't call a region more active than your own an outpost because I'm not sure that suggests good things about your own. So I would kindly prefer it if you were rational about this and tried to learn a bit about NationStates. The whole UDL thug look is not a good one.

[Consular]

Umm. I don't think you know anything about the current state of TNI.

As an insider with a decent amount of government responsibility, I can affirm we are trying here. Why, we've just completely reorganized recently.

Aye, and the new theme and such look cool. But I think it's pretty clear TNI is focusing on its internal community now, rather than any foreign policy ambitions like influencing a GCR.

Balder is pretty much the personal property of Solorni these days. It isn't anyone's outpost but hers.

[Solorni]

Well you changed a lot. That is patently false.

[Consular]

Well you changed a lot. That is patently false.

I changed a lot?

What's false? My last comment?

It's true that you dissolved the constitution and no longer hold elections and you are delegate for pretty much forever, right?

[Solorni]

Well you changed a lot. That is patently false.

I changed a lot?

What's false? My last comment?

It's true that you dissolved the constitution and no longer hold elections and you are delegate for pretty much forever, right?

We never had a constitution and no laws were dissolved. Certain things are being put on hold while we transition by taking more power from the delegate to the Statsminister and establish more of a Scandinavian system.

[Consular]

I changed a lot?

What's false? My last comment?

It's true that you dissolved the constitution and no longer hold elections and you are delegate for pretty much forever, right?

We never had a constitution and no laws were dissolved. Certain things are being put on hold while we transition by taking more power from the delegate to the Statsminister and establish more of a Scandinavian system.

Things certainly seem to have been "on hold" for quite a while now.

As an aside, have you filed a report or should I?

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Report on what? I see nothing of consequence except your entertaining conversation

[The Silver Sentinel]

As an aside, have you filed a report or should I?

Already did.

[Solorni]

We never had a constitution and no laws were dissolved. Certain things are being put on hold while we transition by taking more power from the delegate to the Statsminister and establish more of a Scandinavian system.

Things certainly seem to have been "on hold" for quite a while now.

As an aside, have you filed a report or should I?

I know and I am sorry for that. We haven't had a good law system for a while, and writing the laws has taken an eternity due to people being very busy. We should be done by the end of this week as the Riksraadet has voted to approve the laws and now it will go to the citizens. I want this done more than anyone else and there are measures that I'm upset won't be part of it (like a NS-side portion of the (Parliament) but those are changes that can be pushed for later.

I should do it I suppose, but it kind of felt fitting considering how people seem to feel about me.

[Shadoke]

*hugs Rach*