Neutral Ground - an Open Discussion Thread

[Helltank]

I'm in the UDL and I see no reason why you should even think they're involved with raiding or support it in any way whatsoever. The only complaint I have with them is that they hate raiding to too extreme a degree(it's just a game, guys!).

Your comment about Ho Ho Ho:I don't see how the UDL sending some puppets to act as spies in a region would negatively affect it.

[The Jolly Swagman]

I'm in the UDL and I see no reason why you should even think they're involved with raiding or support it in any way whatsoever. The only complaint I have with them is that they hate raiding to too extreme a degree(it's just a game, guys!).

Your comment about Ho Ho Ho:I don't see how the UDL sending some puppets to act as spies in a region would negatively affect it.

Well, I convinced Bodobol to support my UDI over Mediterrania once. Unfortunately, it was the only time I became delegate, and is why I want to form a defense organization, which allows defending regions, invading occupied regions and conducting "preemptive defense" if we feel the region will fall to raiders at any time.

But still, Bodobol was part of the UDL, and he helped support my raid.

[Helltank]

Invading occupied regions and preemptive defense are standards. We call them liberations and defense missions, respectively.

[The Jolly Swagman]

Invading occupied regions and preemptive defense are standards. We call them liberations and defense missions, respectively.

Yeah. I'll do some liberations and defense missions with my new defense league, but my plan is to acquire a region (too lazy to found one), and alongside doing that, doing "preemptive defense." They are like defense missions... Except it is in raid flavor.

[Ainin]

Well, this is what I get for not using TG filters.

[Tronold]

Are my nation's factions equilibrated? Here is the list:

http://www.nationstates.net/nation=tronold/detail=factbook/id=168751

[The Bruce]

Random question: What size does your region have to be to have any credibility around here? Of course if you can raid, it doesn't matter how big your regions is, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about actual regions where if their leaders talk, you'll listen.

Eastern Europe has 25 endos, which is not enough as I have discovered. 50? 70? 100?

Considering that the Gameplay forum is the gameplay equivalent of America's Got Talent, but with every judge a Simon and a lot less talent, I wouldn't be that worried about credibility. A lot of people here are cosmopolitan gameplayers, who shift from one organization and/or region when it serves them or when they are forced out by the place they were before. There are ideological blocks of defenders, imperialists, and invaders here that often really don't like each other, but membership between certain groups can and has been fluid at times. Endorsements don't mean that much around here or you wouldn't have groups with a less than a handful of updaters making threads about tag raiding. I wouldn't be that concerned that you aren't getting a lot of back-slapping action, if you're not in the business of pumping each other up or ganging up on your opponents.

A lot of sensible people invading-defending don't actually post here, because they don't want everyone in their business, or set themselves up for baiting and trolling.

[Communist Eraser]

Random question: What size does your region have to be to have any credibility around here? Of course if you can raid, it doesn't matter how big your regions is, but I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about actual regions where if their leaders talk, you'll listen.

Eastern Europe has 25 endos, which is not enough as I have discovered. 50? 70? 100?

Wise words.

Admittedly I fell to the trap that 'big region' equal success with the game. Many people do so to, since we see the stamp thread. Stepping away from that and just enjoying your own region is a tough thing to do.

Milo eluded to the other factor. Most of things I do are branded as 'Codgerisms' in GP - interesting experiments that are funny and nice to observe from a distance to see how it works, but they won't participate themselves. I am literally considered a crazy Codger

(But I guess it's better than flip-flop Cormac! )

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You're willing to be Bald but not a Lazarene? Shameful.

It's fine. Just give him time.

Yep, I lied. Applied for citizenship now. Just for thought, how much a 'foreign influence' am I if the Queen begged me multiple times to join?

[Cerian Quilor]

Its not that big region = success, per se. Regions will naturally lose people to RL, lack of interest, other stuff, etc. Getting more people in is the way to keep things going from there.

But it is true that bigger region = more resources (theoretically). And thus, if you want to exert power on the world stage or engage in the fun world of Foreign affairs in NS, you'll want a bigger region, because such a region will be more powerful.

[The Grim Reaper]

(But I guess it's better than flip-flop Cormac! )

It's also better than "That crazy guy on IRC who seems to always be high and doesn't do anything".

That's not even a moniker unique to me, damnit! And I'm not even considered good at it!

[Hyperion]

Well, this is dead. general wins.

[Cerian Quilor]

Okay....

[The North Polish Union]

I used to post in NSG a lot when I was a n00b, but it gets boring talking about the exact same subjects over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

[The Blaatschapen]

I used to post in NSG a lot when I was a n00b, but it gets boring talking about the exact same subjects over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

So you moved to Gameplay?

[Cerian Quilor]

We at least rehash the same arguements in a more less stupid way.

[Drop Your Pants]

We at least rehash the same arguements in a more less stupid way.

Less stupid? More you mean.

[Milograd]

I used to post in NSG a lot when I was a n00b, but it gets boring talking about the exact same subjects over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

I never knew that. That's interesting. Anyone who knows me knows I used to do more II than anything, but many (but hardly all, as we know) of my RPer comrades have moved on, and my time has waned, and that's how I ended up here almost-full-time. I still mentor and such, but my attention is hardly there as much as it used to be.

I don't really take GP seriously at all, of course, but that's mostly due to my background more than anything.

[Cerian Quilor]

I don't take GP seriously either - its one of the reasons why its debates are better than those of General. In general, there's investment, as its real shit they're debating.

[Tim-Opolis]

Well, this is dead. general wins.

That sounds like a challenge :|

[Tano]

Well, this is dead. general wins.

Because you can spam all day in TET?

Oh, I bow down before you oh great one

[Bicross fountain]

Let's beat NSG! An arms race of discussion.

First question: is Neutral Ground only for neutrals? seems to me R/Ders wouldn't be on ground for neutrals.

[Cerian Quilor]

The Neutrals have been nice enough to say 'maybe' to letting us talk here.

[Crushing Our Enemies]

It's neutral ground in that people from both sides can talk about stuff without ripping each other's guts out. See? Neutral.

[McMasterdonia]

Ripping each others guts out is part of the fun though

[Frattastan II]

If I didn't want to rip out someone else's guts I would be answering issues.