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Cerian Quilor
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:07 pm

Kharkistania wrote:
Cerian Quilor wrote:IIRC, wasn't more than one GCR in the ADN at one point?

It was before my time, but I think at least The Pacific and The North Pacific were ADN at one point.

Pretty sure the NPO was never in the ADN, apart from that april fools application that happened that one time...
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Darkesia
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Postby Darkesia » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:37 am

The West Pacific was a cornerstone of the ADN. It took a lot of effort to break away from it.

The NPO was never a part of the ADN. In fact the conflict between the NPO and the ADN and it's diplomatic fallout drove much of the gameplay for years.
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Kharkistania
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Postby Kharkistania » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:11 am

Cerian Quilor wrote:
Kharkistania wrote:It was before my time, but I think at least The Pacific and The North Pacific were ADN at one point.

Pretty sure the NPO was never in the ADN, apart from that april fools application that happened that one time...

Ah, that must have been what confused me. Thanks for clarifying. :)

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Communist Eraser
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Postby Communist Eraser » Sun Jul 28, 2013 2:54 pm

I'm sick of this 'speaking for myself / speaking officially for X' duality. You are in the Gameplay forum, the most public stage you can get in this game.

You don't call all the media, sothers t the top of your lungs and say it's just speaking for yourself. Or you do, but you are aware you are knowingly undermining the official statement and others will be rightfully justified in treating the official statement with skepticism.

If you wany personal statements, resign your positions or use the appropiate mediums.
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Cerian Quilor
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Sun Jul 28, 2013 3:02 pm

Its not duality. Personal opinions don't mean the opinions of the region or entity you are in a position for, all the time. If you're in a policy making position, then it becomes a serious matter, but otherwise, not really.
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The Thing to Remember About NationStates is that it is an almost entirely social game - fundamentally, you have no power beyond your own ability to convince people to go along with your ideas. In that sense, even the most dictatorial region is fundamentally democratic.

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Drop Your Pants
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Mon Jul 29, 2013 8:09 am

Your in a policy making position aren't you Cerian? :P
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Nivian
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Postby Nivian » Mon Jul 29, 2013 9:43 am

Not in UIAF.

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Drop Your Pants
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:14 pm

The commander of one of the divisions has no policy making power????
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Nivian
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Postby Nivian » Mon Jul 29, 2013 2:46 pm

I am an operational commander - I command in operations as needed, but I don't make policy.

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Communist Eraser
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Postby Communist Eraser » Thu Sep 05, 2013 8:54 pm

Bump.

Jenrak was right in locking the other thread. But this thread was designed for times like this right? ;) Offbeat observations away from the main gameplay game.

Welcome back Uni. And to keep it gameplay, are you just playing the game our are you reentering political life as well?

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Chiyou
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Postby Chiyou » Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:01 pm

Darkesia wrote:The NPO was never a part of the ADN.

But the PRP applied for membership. :lol:
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Mallorea and Riva
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Thu Sep 05, 2013 9:16 pm

Communist Eraser wrote:Welcome back Uni. And to keep it gameplay, are you just playing the game our are you reentering political life as well?

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Postby Bodobol » Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:03 pm

Is a region of 25 nations or so too small to attempt starting a defense group?

If so, I'll probably start a massive recruitment drive soon.
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All Good People
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Postby All Good People » Thu Sep 05, 2013 10:12 pm

The overall population is less important than how many players you have actively able and willing to participate in defending. A 10 nation region could have enough, and a 1000 nation region could have too few. If you've got 5 active participants, you're good to go.

But the PRP applied for membership.


True, and I was an advocate for accepting the application.
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Postby Bodobol » Fri Sep 06, 2013 3:58 pm

All Good People wrote:The overall population is less important than how many players you have actively able and willing to participate in defending. A 10 nation region could have enough, and a 1000 nation region could have too few. If you've got 5 active participants, you're good to go.


Thanks AGP. I'll check around in my region to see if there are enough willing participants.
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The Jolly Swagman
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Postby The Jolly Swagman » Sat Sep 07, 2013 11:53 am

Anyways folks, I am quite thankful that I am now in charge of Mediterrania. Which begs the question, do regions have a right to secede from their groups for any reason?
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Communist Quinntopia
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Postby Communist Quinntopia » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:18 pm

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The Jolly Swagman
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Postby The Jolly Swagman » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:20 pm

Communist Quinntopia wrote:
The Jolly Swagman wrote:Anyways folks, I am quite thankful that I have invaded Mediterrania. Which begs the question, do regions have a right to secede from their groups for any reason?

Fixed, Luz.

It is not an invasion, it is a liberation from Mazerian rule.
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Postby Communist Quinntopia » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:20 pm

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Luziyca
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Postby Luziyca » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:24 pm

Communist Quinntopia wrote:
The Jolly Swagman wrote:It is not an invasion, it is a liberation from Mazerian rule.

No, it's an invasion. Anyway, Luziyca, what is your beef with Mazeria any way? Or is it more personal - I mean, is it because I revealed plagiarism in your WorldVision host bid or something?

Dammit!

Anyways, I am dipping into gameplay and I keep an eye on founderless regions sans delegate. After a few tries, I found it and I decided it'd be better off sovereign.
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Communist Quinntopia
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Postby Communist Quinntopia » Sat Sep 07, 2013 12:28 pm

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Luziyca
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Postby Luziyca » Sat Sep 07, 2013 2:37 pm

Communist Quinntopia wrote:
Luziyca wrote:Dammit!

Anyways, I am dipping into gameplay and I keep an eye on founderless regions sans delegate. After a few tries, I found it and I decided it'd be better off sovereign.

Listing your main nation on the Mediterranian forums wasn't such a good idea, was it? :palm:

And how did you decide that?

Yeah.

Anyways, I decided it because really, I want to try something new, something... different!
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Luziyca
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Postby Luziyca » Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:49 pm

Note to self: never recruit in TEP ever again.
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Postby Bodobol » Sat Sep 07, 2013 9:52 pm

Luziyca wrote:Note to self: never recruit in TEP ever again.


It's okay though, because TEP can't banject me.
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Luziyca
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Postby Luziyca » Sat Sep 07, 2013 10:05 pm

Bodobol wrote:
Luziyca wrote:Note to self: never recruit in TEP ever again.


It's okay though, because TEP can't banject me.

Yeah. Speaking of that, once I become Doge (likely after you serving for a couple days or two as Doge temporanea), I'll probably complete the Constitution and put it to vote by a referendum on the RMB.
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