Neutral Ground - an Open Discussion Thread

[Pollaetorian]

Fascism is pretty arrogant too, don't get me wrong, Misley. But it doesn't have the same tone of holier-than-thou that communism and socialism have a tendency to have. Their arrogance comes across as more heavy handed and smug.

I know you weren't saying it was new or unique - but Codger decided it somehow was.

The operation of it using dispatches etc is somewhat clever. Rach and Misley had a nice discussion about it, amongst the embers of the Red and Black thread. viewtopic.php?p=23339303#p23339303

[KaelThas Quilor]

The mechanic doesn't make it a unique idea, though.

[Zaolat]

The mechanic doesn't make it a unique idea, though.

O how much we have missed your cynicism Cerian.

[Pollaetorian]

The mechanic doesn't make it a unique idea, though.

How to successfully keep an increasingly growing community onsite is unique. Many regions start small, get bigger and feel they have to go the offsite to keep things organised. TI has offered us a blueprint on how to do it on-site.

Though whether TI's success is because it's leftist, run by knowledgeable players and would attract activity anyway could be debated. Even Peacezone Theory could be "successful" attracting people when it's on a region with a recognizable name like 'Eastern Europe', leftist themed and had my level of activity running the show.

[Wii Sports Resort]

--I'm new
--I'm in a closed region with some friends
--They never do anything
--I want to procrastinate but I can't when nothing is happening
--That's why I'm here

--That's how I met your mother

[KaelThas Quilor]

The mechanic doesn't make it a unique idea, though.

O how much we have missed your cynicism Cerian.

Someone's gotta be the cynic around here.

to quote Commander Ivonova

Susan Ivanova: No boom today. Boom tomorrow. There's always a boom tomorrow. What? Look, somebody's got to have some damn perspective around here! Boom. Sooner or later. BOOM!

[Drop Your Pants]

Old school sucks...

I get the lack of MSN - but why aren't we on bloody skype? x'D

Gov was the reason for a while

[Marelius]

Not to hurt your massive ego, but that's not it at all. It's just that most of TBR is sick of people talking about drama involving you and Shadoke and whoever all the time in our Skype chat. It's off-topic and annoying is all. Nobody is worried that you have any sooper sekrit info, lol.

*Very weak ego IRL - NS bolsters

Oh trust me I'm sick of dealing with him and his buddies too. With no logical arguments brought forward since the beginning of it i'm finding it hard not to claw my eyes out of my skull.

I ain't got no "sooper sekrit info" but I think they aren't stupid enough to think that atleast one of my former citizens are there cause I wanted them to be.

The fact you're bragging about it makes me even less inclined to care.

[Rifty]

Old school sucks...

I get the lack of MSN - but why aren't we on bloody skype? x'D

Gov was the reason for a while

Tisk tisk tisk...

*Very weak ego IRL - NS bolsters

Oh trust me I'm sick of dealing with him and his buddies too. With no logical arguments brought forward since the beginning of it i'm finding it hard not to claw my eyes out of my skull.

I ain't got no "sooper sekrit info" but I think they aren't stupid enough to think that atleast one of my former citizens are there cause I wanted them to be.

The fact you're bragging about it makes me even less inclined to care.

Not an attempt to impress - just mock. Mocking is nice. <3

[Tramiar]

*Very weak ego IRL - NS bolsters

Oh trust me I'm sick of dealing with him and his buddies too. With no logical arguments brought forward since the beginning of it i'm finding it hard not to claw my eyes out of my skull.

I ain't got no "sooper sekrit info" but I think they aren't stupid enough to think that atleast one of my former citizens are there cause I wanted them to be.

The fact you're bragging about it makes me even less inclined to care.

I'd go more with the fact that he keeps talking about it.
Anyway, this thread should be used more. It is more interesting than most of the ones on the first page. So anyway, dunno why everyone seems to dislike MSN. I liked it much better than stupid Skype. But even Skype is better than IRC.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Skype is good for opsec, and works for the tight raider community. Making an account automatically weeds out most undedicated newbies. It works for us. But I can see how irc works for the other side- massive libs require a lot more updates, and help is asked for from a much larger base. It's easier to share "go to #jump" over a telegram or whatever than it to get random people into a Skype chat. You also have the easy ability to silence folks there, which I hear is more of a problem. For the most part, we say quiet, people shut up. Not always the same, I hear, in irc groups.

[Drop Your Pants]

You'll always get people (like me) who tend to get louder when told to be quiet

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Another note with Skype is that we can have it open in one tab, have a browser in the other, and keep it open while we open links. With irc, you lost the chat if you click a hyperlink. Which is less of an issue if you're chasing others or hitting one, pre-announced target that you have planty of time to put in a second window if you want, compared to a tag run

[Tramiar]

Another note with Skype is that we can have it open in one tab, have a browser in the other, and keep it open while we open links. With irc, you lost the chat if you click a hyperlink. Which is less of an issue if you're chasing others or hitting one, pre-announced target that you have planty of time to put in a second window if you want, compared to a tag run

MSN is still better than skype. I miss all my smileys.

[Alustrian]

Another note with Skype is that we can have it open in one tab, have a browser in the other, and keep it open while we open links. With irc, you lost the chat if you click a hyperlink. Which is less of an issue if you're chasing others or hitting one, pre-announced target that you have planty of time to put in a second window if you want, compared to a tag run

Only an issue for people who use mibbit/something web-based. Most defenders eventually move on to a real client

[Karputsk]

Plus even if you use a real client as a Defender you will have the target open in another tab. So if I was ever using a web client I would hover my mouse over the move to button, learned the keybind to shift tabs in chrome and then would use that and immediately click.

[Revall]

MSN is still better than skype. I miss all my smileys.

Wot Skype has the best smileys. Lots of people don't like how the new Skype is bathed in baby blue either but I do.

Call me a sucker for change.

[Unibot III]

Skype really wouldn't work for defenders except the tightest of missions, plus I think it'd be kind of a buggy system to use for spotting; I like everything clean and "visually straight-forward" when I spot. Mirc is a light program that operates under the worst net connections; Skype is far less reliable and uses a lot more digital memory resources.

[Todd McCloud]

I have to say, in big chats (big as in lots of messages) Skype can get a little laggy, which might be critical for missions.

[Tano]

I have to say, in big chats (big as in lots of messages) Skype can get a little laggy, which might be critical for missions.

May we all never forget the Great Pencil Crisis.

A moment of silence please.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Never again a problem in new skype

[Venico]

I have to say, in big chats (big as in lots of messages) Skype can get a little laggy, which might be critical for missions.

May we all never forget the Great Pencil Crisis.

A moment of silence please.

That nearly gave me an aneurysm with how much people were talking and skype was crapping itself.

[Consular]

May we all never forget the Great Pencil Crisis.

A moment of silence please.

That nearly gave me an aneurysm with how much people were talking and skype was crapping itself.

Oh god I remember. I actually don't remember if we even hit the target after that mess.

Skype is indeed notoriously iffy, but still preferable to IRC I think. Though the new version of Skype is incredibly irritating. Why did they have to make smileys larger? What purpose did that serve aside from making them obnoxious and annoying to look at?

[Marelius]

The fact you're bragging about it makes me even less inclined to care.

Not an attempt to impress - just mock. Mocking is nice. <3

The only person you're mocking is yourself. And the fact you aren't able to see that is even more troublesome. I'm giving you a genuinely good intentioned advise to zip your mouth in a hastily fashion, and you would be wise to accept if you want to keep what remains of your dignity.

[Marelius]

I have to say, in big chats (big as in lots of messages) Skype can get a little laggy, which might be critical for missions.

I've only had lags in small chats The exception that proves the rule, i guess.