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Cerberion
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Founded: Apr 22, 2010
Corporate Police State

Postby Cerberion » Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:28 am

EH?
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New Rogernomics
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Founded: Aug 22, 2006
Left-wing Utopia

Postby New Rogernomics » Tue Nov 01, 2011 4:02 pm

Mahaj wrote:
Zoanma Skelt wrote:
Boo-hoo. Kaine was or is a raider and by logic he's a liar. Remember when Evil Wolf said he didn't hang with nazis and then had their help in a raid? yeah you can't trust raiders. They lie because they're scumbags on and offline. Kaine can never be trusted and should never be allowed to have a positron of power in a non-raider region. I absolutely agree with TITO in the liberation.

@Mahaj I'm not a member of TITO, I'm just a person who hangs out in the region. i don't represent TITO. I may be an idiot and a hostile jerk, but, i do not represent TITO. My views are my views.

Eh. I think you know I know you're just lying.

That post you are talking about Mahaj makes no sense whatever. :eyebrow:

1. Unsubstantiated allegations - Claims because raiders raid with Nazi's they share the same opinions, rather than doing so out of raider unity, A knowing B =/= A being B.
2. Paranoia - Kain already holds power in two regions, one of which is neutral in alignment, though IGD is pretty neutral too.
3. No ideology or belief makes you less/more prone to lie or to tell the truth.
4. I have been to the XKI forum, they hound you if you upset their little fairytale, I very much doubt he isn't in TITO, to hold such narrow minded opinions. I think XKI should take this under advisement and educate their new initiate better. :lol:
5. Claims to have a supernatural sense, unknown to the rest of us.
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Improving Wordiness
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Founded: Dec 05, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Improving Wordiness » Wed Nov 02, 2011 12:19 am

Frankly getting tired of you believing you can say anything about TITO. I take offence at being called narrow minded and call you on it.
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Ambrella
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Founded: Mar 17, 2007
Capitalizt

Postby Ambrella » Wed Nov 02, 2011 9:40 am

-St George wrote:
Zoanma Skelt wrote:
I don't trust myself. Reason why i would never be a defender. Raiders could easily manipulate me into spilling info. I'm easily trolled.

Eh, I regularly talk with some raiders, I have to as a member of Balder, and personally they tend to be a varied bunch like any group. First thing one notable raider ever said was 'Don't think that personal relationships and friendships matter more than the game.' It's sound advice.


If more people understood that very statement, we'd be playing in a much happier game world.
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Cerberion
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Founded: Apr 22, 2010
Corporate Police State

Postby Cerberion » Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:48 am

Ambrella wrote:
-St George wrote:Eh, I regularly talk with some raiders, I have to as a member of Balder, and personally they tend to be a varied bunch like any group. First thing one notable raider ever said was 'Don't think that personal relationships and friendships matter more than the game.' It's sound advice.


If more people understood that very statement, we'd be playing in a much happier game world.


I think if more people understood that many nations don't want to be part of gameplay and would rather their region be left alone, we'd be in a happier game world.

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Evil Wolf
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Father Knows Best State

Postby Evil Wolf » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:47 pm

Ah, yes, the poor, poor neutrals regions, all they want to for everyone to leave them alone and someone to protect them when big bad raiders show up. Why can't we just leave them alone, the poor defenseless things?

Because they are not defenseless, first of all. Any region is capable of defending itself, its just "harder" for the founderless ones, and if they really feel such then they shouldn't reside in founderless regions. Crashing is part of the game, if you don't like it, don't play the game or lock yourself in a self-founded, passworded region surrounded only by puppets. Or make TRR your home, that's a good choice too. I feel no pity for neutrals whom we raid, they have the same advantages/disadvantages as their attackers, more so when factoring in influence. They are not weak, they are not defenseless, and they do not need pity and protection showered down upon them from on high.
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Tim-Opolis
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:56 pm

Evil Wolf wrote:Ah, yes, the poor, poor neutrals regions, all they want to for everyone to leave them alone and someone to protect them when big bad raiders show up. Why can't we just leave them alone, the poor defenseless things?

Because they are not defenseless, first of all. Any region is capable of defending itself, its just "harder" for the founderless ones, and if they really feel such then they shouldn't reside in founderless regions. Crashing is part of the game, if you don't like it, don't play the game or lock yourself in a self-founded, passworded region surrounded only by puppets. Or make TRR your home, that's a good choice too. I feel no pity for neutrals whom we raid, they have the same advantages/disadvantages as their attackers, more so when factoring in influence. They are not weak, they are not defenseless, and they do not need pity and protection showered down upon them from on high.


Well actually. They have disadvantages.

Raiders have the element of surprise. They can strike unexpectedly and most Delegates don't have the time to be on every major and minor to defend.
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New Rogernomics
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby New Rogernomics » Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:57 pm

Improving Wordiness wrote:Frankly getting tired of you believing you can say anything about TITO. I take offence at being called narrow minded and call you on it.

Incorrect analogy, claiming TITO/XKI instills narrow mindedness is not the same as claiming all TITO/XKI members are narrow minded.
Edit: As for your first point, the onus is on you to claim I have no right to speak my opinion. Don't let freedom of expression get in the way.
Additionally I never mentioned you once, merely said that someone who isn't you, was narrow minded in their opinions, and that XKI/TITO would do well to rid narrow mindedness from some of it's would be initiates. I am offended by your distortion of my post.
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Drop Your Pants
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Drop Your Pants » Thu Nov 03, 2011 5:25 am

Athy, your trying way to hard to look like a major player :lol:
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New Rogernomics
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby New Rogernomics » Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:21 pm

Drop Your Pants wrote:Athy, your trying way to hard to look like a major player :lol:

OOC: Shush! :p It took a while to develop my character to this RP point. Plus it's not my fault other people, take this game far, far, far too seriously. :lol:
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"Solidarity forever..."
Hoping for Peace in Israel and Palestine
  • Former First Citizen (PM) of Lazarus
  • Former Proedroi (Minister) of Foreign Affairs of Lazarus
  • Former Lazarus Delegate (Humane Republic of Lazarus, 2015)
  • Minister of Culture & Media (Humane Republic of Lazarus)
  • Foreign Minister of The Ascendancy (RIP, and purged)
  • Senator of The Ascendancy (RIP, and purged)
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Goobergunchia » Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:28 pm

An Order Recognizing Governments in the Regions of Balder and Osiris.

Approved by the High Council of the Liberal Unitary Republic.
Ordered transmitted to the global community of NationStates.

November 5, 2011

Whereas the regions of Balder and Osiris were created on October 18, 2011;

Whereas the regions of Balder and Osiris are game-created regions similar to Lazarus, which nations that are refounded join automatically;

Whereas the Grand Duchy of Luxembourg has become Delegate of Balder, and to the knowledge of the Liberal Unitary Republic, there are no reasonable alternative claims to that Delegacy;

Whereas the Fiefdom of Zaolat has become Delegate of Osiris, and to the knowledge of the Liberal Unitary Republic, there are no reasonable alternative claims to that Delegacy that remain extant; and

Whereas the Liberal Unitary Republic has no need to ascertain nativity except in the case of an actual or purported invasion, and accordingly declines to make any such ascertainment in the regions of Balder and Osiris at this time: Therefore, be it

ORDERED BY THE LIBERAL UNITARY REPUBLIC OF GOOBERGUNCHIA, That

  1. The Liberal Unitary Republic hereby recognizes the government now vested at http://s11.zetaboards.com/Balder/ that has selected Luxembourg as Delegate as being now, and having been, the legitimate government of Balder;
  2. The Liberal Unitary Republic hereby recognizes the government now vested at http://s13.zetaboards.com/Osiris_NS/ that has selected Zaolat as Delegate as being now, and having been, the legitimate government of Osiris, and
  3. A copy of this order be immediately transmitted to the global community of NationStates.

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