[NSNS] The Proletariat Coalition poetically invaded

[Savaer]

If memory serves, Unknown suffered attacks on their forum not all that terribly long ago. (*checks records* Make that multiple occasions, including colonies.) Their willingness to know when a raid is successful and move on is commendable.

They have held the region against all comers, proven a point, and clearly won the day. What more can you ask for?

Aye.. Porn spammed last year in the wake of Forgery's alleged claimed porn spams (No evidence ever confirmed him as the spammer), and Prussia Reborn's forum completely wiped off the map by Saudi Burmia about 5 months prior to that, and about four porn spams in 2008 when the populace of Unknown inhabited the region The Brotherhood of Blood. *added in edit: Also Unknown had a founder jacking, so yeah... given what we've withstood, grudges not withholding, we also know when a job's done.

Far as we're concerned, blood price is paid. To those wishing it were a graver penalty upon the region - consider also your own argument can be applied to doing said griefing.

Consider that coming from an individual who has a classic history of playing firebomber in regions, at one time purely to piss off the FRA.

[Ladycat]

Uh, yeah, I'd sort of hope you'd know who I am if you're making poorly supported threats against me. To do otherwise would be silly.

Um, in name, unless you are of the described raiders of which we hold one-time raider colonies and homelands, then they are not threats against you.

*serves up some ribs with TRR BBQ sauce*

[Evil Wolf]

You do know that DEN has had more home regions, associate regions, and look-alike regions than Micheal Jackson had face surgeries, right?

[Ladycat]

You do know that DEN has had more home regions, associate regions, and look-alike regions than Micheal Jackson had face surgeries, right?

See DEN Army Federation's RMB for one list of them.
With the NS advent of regional embassies, this lady and my allied subordinates have been able to refound many former raider conquests and homeland colonies.

From time to time we have previously released our refounds. But the DEN has actually had an impressive propriety of long-standing -- only I hadn't fully realized it until I have come across the likes of The Black Hawks and The Phantom Knights.

I am not sure where Lone Wolves United fits in here, except that I know some of your troopers have been on the grief patrol from an unaffiliated native perspective.

[Evil Wolf]

I have no idea what "the grief patrol" is.

[Crushing Our Enemies]

Can I just say that no one really cares about your release of refounded regions? We don't use them in any way. They are, in a word, useless. So let's keep this on topic - The Proletariat Coalition, the 50-some odd defenders that tried to protect it, and how badly we just whupped all their asses.

[-St George]

Can I just say that no one really cares about your release of refounded regions? We don't use them in any way. They are, in a word, useless. So let's keep this on topic - The Proletariat Coalition, the 50-some odd defenders that tried to protect it, and how badly we just whupped all their asses.

How of many of those defenders were 'part time soldiers' recruited by the UDL for this mission and this mission alone?

[Drop Your Pants]

I'd guess 45

[-St George]

I'd guess 45

Probably. I can't remember the actual figure, but it's at least half.

[Mahaj]

I'd guess 45

Probably. I can't remember the actual figure, but it's at least half.

Didn't we only get 45?

[Frattastan]

the 50-some odd defenders that tried to protect it

I think the biggest failure was not adequately protecting the region when the invasion happened, considering Unknown had already attempted a raid using Eldorado Poe as lead on July 2nd (defended by TITO) - and that several invaders were either dirties or otherwise suspicious puppets

After it was taken and flooded with invaders, any liberation attempt (uhm, 10 times larger than the largest invader update force I've seen in yeara) had to be more of an act of desperation (with people recruited just for that mission) than an actual threat to the delegacy.


Hmm ... is this thread going to be archived?

[Ladycat]

Can I just say that no one really cares about your release of refounded regions? We don't use them in any way. They are, in a word, useless. So let's keep this on topic - The Proletariat Coalition, the 50-some odd defenders that tried to protect it, and how badly we just whupped all their asses.

Curious, TBH didn't think this when The Chickenland Army released The Black Riders back to Halcones.

And I understand there are at least ten TBH regions which have been refounded by them and my subordinates -- including one last night. If you don't care, why advertise your conquested regions? (And most of our and other anti-raider refounds have been of those regions).

This offer of release of DEN regions speaks directly to the topic of TPC -- recognizing that actually there are ethics amongst both raiders and defenders -- as TPC demonstrates, even defender-identified regional overseers must face an accounting.

[Evil Wolf]

Yeah, if you think holding a bunch of "former raider" regions hostage is going to make Raiders stop trying to destroy Defender regions, you clearly didn't think that one through.

Here would be my logic on the situation: My enemy has just taken a region hostage that I care about and demands I "behave" and "act civil" if I ever want to see that region back in friendly hands. What do I do?

C) Find the homeland of my enemy and destroy it via any means possible and give up on the hostage region as an acceptable loss.

[Kommandant Von Gest]

Can I just say that no one really cares about your release of refounded regions? We don't use them in any way. They are, in a word, useless. So let's keep this on topic - The Proletariat Coalition, the 50-some odd defenders that tried to protect it, and how badly we just whupped all their asses.

Curious, TBH didn't think this when The Chickenland Army released The Black Riders back to Halcones.

Pure lies! The Black Riders was never realeased voluntary. The Chickenland Army was just too lazy to hold on to it.

[Ladycat]

Curious, TBH didn't think this when The Chickenland Army released The Black Riders back to Halcones.

Pure lies! The Black Riders was never realeased voluntary. The Chickenland Army was just too lazy to hold on to it.

Hmm... It sounds like you may be in a position to know. And I see that The Chickenland Army has its own problems:

Al Copeland

[Crushing Our Enemies]

Seriously: The Proletariat Coalition. Major ass-kicking. Big deal here! Empty trophies with cool names = no big deal.

[Kshrlmnt]

And we're done, ladies and gents.

[Face Dancers]

Curious, TBH didn't think this when The Chickenland Army released The Black Riders back to Halcones.

And I understand there are at least ten TBH regions which have been refounded by them and my subordinates -- including one last night. If you don't care, why advertise your conquested regions? (And most of our and other anti-raider refounds have been of those regions).

"Released"? More like "Lost".

Well, I don't think we really care about most of them, we just construct embassies that's all. Most of the regions we refounded because there were no natives left, definitely don't really care much about them, and some others like CCCP/Scaro/Durban provoked us, so I'd suppose we'd care about them a bit more...

[Drop Your Pants]

Right lets go pretend to defend it

[General COE]

"Pretend to defend." Has a nice ring to it all on its own. New TITO slogan?

[Sichuan Pepper]

Oh god yes...lets drag TITO into the conversation

[Drop Your Pants]

All the other big names have been worn out in this topic

Nice to see the delegate change.

[Kshrlmnt]

When we decide to go, we go. No use fiddling around with it.

That said... I watched for the change the same attention I gave watching for liberation attempts. Seeing it change... felt very strange.

[Rachel Anumia]

Awesome work!

[Louisiana Territory]

We, the undersigned among the residents of the Proletariat Coalition, express our continuing and unending displeasure with any and all acts of community disruption, including but not limited to the deletion of forums. We are aware of and sorrow for the deletion of the Black Hawks, DEN, and Invaders Army forums by agents of the RLAI, the intelligence wing of the Red Liberty Alliance, which the Proletariat Coalition was a member of during its period of activity.

There are those among us who were silent then and did not, because of ignorance or apathy, distance ourselves from those actions before; we do so now. There are those among us who have previously condemned forum destruction over the years reiterate our principled stand for others to duly note. We understand that some place no credibility in our past condemnations; this too, we understand, for actions speak loudly, but iterate that we have only post facto condemnation and apology to offer, and that the past cannot be undone.

We stand as we always stand; for democracy, liberty, and equality; and as an extension of these lofty principles, for the freedom of NS nations to associate and communicate with one another in the communities of their choosing.

We invite those currently occupying our quiet socialist corner of NationStates to join us in the left and to help build, rather than disrupt, communities for political dialogue; for understanding why it is not right to cause deliberate and unnecessary suffering, e.g., via destroying forums for community discussion, is a but a short step from understanding why equitable distribution of wealth and adequate social support are important goals for any moral society.

Signed,
The Rogue State of Tahar Joblis
The Quiet Desperation of Wallcreeper
The Polity of Star City*
The Hallowed Trees of Terraliberty
The Kingdom of Infernialis
The Perpetually Confused State of Whatia
The United Socialist States of Blackbird*

*Former delegate

TPC RMB:

The Polity of Star City
1 day 6 hours ago
I urge all resident WA nations vote against the current Security Council resolution targeted at our sister region, The Allied States of EuroIslanders.
The United Socialist States of Blackbird
1 day 2 hours ago
Let me add my voice of support to our esteemed Delegate from the Polity of Star City. We should vote against the current Security Council resolution.

So much for remorse eh?