The United Defenders League

[Tim-Opolis]

Last I checked the UDL doesn't have.. *checks Belgium* ..80+ updaters. I'm not sure what you want the UDL to do, Rachel?

I expect that Rachel wants the UDL to send in what it's got at update anyway, to permit Rachel the entertainment and glee of watching and jeering as they are ejected.

It's what everyone wants

[SunRawr]

This from you? You guys seem to be more concerned with your image than actually "helping" anyone.

Funny, but no.

I see no joke.. I see overblown "defense" missions and other fluff to make your troops feel better and to make the public think you are being more useful than you really are.

[Mahaj]

Funny, but no.

I see no joke.. I see overblown "defense" missions and other fluff to make your troops feel better and to make the public think you are being more useful than you really are.

i"m not sure what you're seeing, but getting 80 some updaters takes time.

[Tim-Opolis]

Funny, but no.

I see no joke.. I see overblown "defense" missions and other fluff to make your troops feel better and to make the public think you are being more useful than you really are.

Wait...

TITO: overblown "defense" missions and other fluff to make your troops feel better

UDL: overblown "defense" missions and other fluff to make your troops feel better and to make the public think you are being more useful than you really are

They're getting more similar

[SunRawr]

I see no joke.. I see overblown "defense" missions and other fluff to make your troops feel better and to make the public think you are being more useful than you really are.

i"m not sure what you're seeing, but getting 80 some updaters takes time.

Yeah, I'm not talking about Belgium. And you know very well what I am talking about. I'm not willing to argue it quite yet, I'm waiting to see if it makes your monthly update thing.

[Tim-Opolis]

I see no joke.. I see overblown "defense" missions and other fluff to make your troops feel better and to make the public think you are being more useful than you really are.

i"m not sure what you're seeing, but getting 80 some updaters takes time.

Fine. Then use Iran as an example. I purged the native community there in half and you guys sat and watched while pouting and liberating some noobish raid instead.

Iran at max had 22 endos on me/Rawr

[Mahaj]

I see no joke.. I see overblown "defense" missions and other fluff to make your troops feel better and to make the public think you are being more useful than you really are.

Wait...

TITO: overblown "defense" missions and other fluff to make your troops feel better

UDL: overblown "defense" missions and other fluff to make your troops feel better and to make the public think you are being more useful than you really are

They're getting more similar

Sure, when you make up things, anything can look similar!

[Mahaj]

i"m not sure what you're seeing, but getting 80 some updaters takes time.

Fine. Then use Iran as an example. I purged the native community there in half and you guys sat and watched while pouting and liberating some noobish raid instead.

Iran at max had 22 endos on me/Rawr

And I worked hard to get the number of people needed, which didn't pan out.

[SunRawr]

Fine. Then use Iran as an example. I purged the native community there in half and you guys sat and watched while pouting and liberating some noobish raid instead.

Iran at max had 22 endos on me/Rawr

And I worked hard to get the number of people needed, which didn't pan out.

I'm sure you did, you are a pretty good lib recruiter

[Tim-Opolis]

Fine. Then use Iran as an example. I purged the native community there in half and you guys sat and watched while pouting and liberating some noobish raid instead.

Iran at max had 22 endos on me/Rawr

And I worked hard to get the number of people needed, which didn't pan out.

That's true... As Rawr said, you are a good lib recruitter
But it would be nice if you had tried atleast once so I didn't have to resort to native kicking

[Mahaj]

And I worked hard to get the number of people needed, which didn't pan out.

I'm sure you did, you are a pretty good lib recruiter

Actually no i'm not Else we'd have mounted an attempt.

I'll agree that defending is at a low point right now, where there's just a lack of people. That doesn't mean we're not doing things, though.

[Blaat]

I see no joke.. I see overblown "defense" missions and other fluff to make your troops feel better and to make the public think you are being more useful than you really are.

Wait...

TITO: overblown "defense" missions and other fluff to make your troops feel better

UDL: overblown "defense" missions and other fluff to make your troops feel better and to make the public think you are being more useful than you really are

They're getting more similar

Well... consider both are defender orgs... not surprising that they have similarities (though not the above ones),

[Mahaj]

And I worked hard to get the number of people needed, which didn't pan out.

That's true... As Rawr said, you are a good lib recruitter
But it would be nice if you had tried atleast once so I didn't have to resort to native kicking

The idea that you *had* to resort to native kicking is ludicrous. If you're going to kick natives, don't be like "oh you made me do it".

[Tim-Opolis]

Wait...

TITO: overblown "defense" missions and other fluff to make your troops feel better

UDL: overblown "defense" missions and other fluff to make your troops feel better and to make the public think you are being more useful than you really are

They're getting more similar

Well... consider both are defender orgs... not surprising that they have similarities (though not the above ones),

I dunno. It's starting to seem like it to me.

[Tim-Opolis]

That's true... As Rawr said, you are a good lib recruitter
But it would be nice if you had tried atleast once so I didn't have to resort to native kicking

The idea that you *had* to resort to native kicking is ludicrous. If you're going to kick natives, don't be like "oh you made me do it".

Well after the first night, I was dissapointed because I wanted to kick people... and since you guys didn't come, I banned some natives to try to provoke you. Then you didn't come again... So I decided that you weren't coming and did all I could. This involved purging half of the natives out of the region. And these were the active ones too. Most of them had been on within the past day

[Blaat]

Well... consider both are defender orgs... not surprising that they have similarities (though not the above ones),

I dunno. It's starting to seem like it to me.

Maybe it's the start of a new era of Defender unity. I wouldn't mind if that gets my region freed

[Mallorea and Riva]

I dunno. It's starting to seem like it to me.

Maybe it's the start of a new era of Defender unity. I wouldn't mind if that gets my region freed

I must say the natives of Belgium are a rather spirited bunch, and for that I applaud them
I wouldn't be banking my hopes on Defender unity however. The schism in the defender world runs rather deep right now, although one would think that such an opportunity as this would be used to realign the main defender groups... Ah well.

Maybe if we all start doing what Tim did the defenders will finally work together.

[Mahaj]

Maybe it's the start of a new era of Defender unity. I wouldn't mind if that gets my region freed

I must say the natives of Belgium are a rather spirited bunch, and for that I applaud them
I wouldn't be banking my hopes on Defender unity however. The schism in the defender world runs rather deep right now, although one would think that such an opportunity as this would be used to realign the main defender groups... Ah well.

Maybe if we all start doing what Tim did the defenders will finally work together.

Why would we want to all do an ill-thought out coup attempt on Osiris?

[Mallorea and Riva]

I must say the natives of Belgium are a rather spirited bunch, and for that I applaud them
I wouldn't be banking my hopes on Defender unity however. The schism in the defender world runs rather deep right now, although one would think that such an opportunity as this would be used to realign the main defender groups... Ah well.

Maybe if we all start doing what Tim did the defenders will finally work together.

Why would we want to all do an ill-thought out coup attempt on Osiris?

My teacher is now staring at me after I burst out laughing at that comment.

[Blaat]

Maybe it's the start of a new era of Defender unity. I wouldn't mind if that gets my region freed

I must say the natives of Belgium are a rather spirited bunch, and for that I applaud them

Thanks. I guess it is a part of us being actually a bit organised behind the scenes with a reasonably active offsite forum and knowing the game mechanics(a must if you ask me when you're stubborn like us ).

I wouldn't be banking my hopes on Defender unity however. The schism in the defender world runs rather deep right now, although one would think that such an opportunity as this would be used to realign the main defender groups... Ah well.

Maybe if we all start doing what Tim did the defenders will finally work together.

I don't know what the actual reasons are behind the schism in the defender world, but my hunch is "bruised egos". Which perhaps can be set aside when they(not 'we' since I do not consider my ego bruised since I just returned to the defender world, happily detagging along) continue to lose face (it's fact, sorry guys).

[Ballotonia]

If the invaders in this thread are genuinely concerned that things aren't going well for the UDL, they're welcome to assist in the liberation of Belgium. Keep in mind, if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem

Ballotonia

[Rachel Anumia]

If the invaders in this thread are genuinely concerned that things aren't going well for the UDL, they're welcome to assist in the liberation of Belgium. Keep in mind, if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem

Ballotonia

I'm sure TITO and the FRA would be glad to hear that you think they are part of the problem

[Mallorea and Riva]

If the invaders in this thread are genuinely concerned that things aren't going well for the UDL, they're welcome to assist in the liberation of Belgium. Keep in mind, if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem

Ballotonia

I am assisting in the sense that I am providing the UDL an opportunity to liberate a region by supporting the raid of Belgium

Thanks. I guess it is a part of us being actually a bit organised behind the scenes with a reasonably active offsite forum and knowing the game mechanics(a must if you ask me when you're stubborn like us ).

That certainly helps

I don't know what the actual reasons are behind the schism in the defender world, but my hunch is "bruised egos". Which perhaps can be set aside when they(not 'we' since I do not consider my ego bruised since I just returned to the defender world, happily detagging along) continue to lose face (it's fact, sorry guys).

Egos certainly have a lot to do with it. No doubts about that.

[Spartzerium]

If the invaders in this thread are genuinely concerned that things aren't going well for the UDL, they're welcome to assist in the liberation of Belgium. Keep in mind, if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem

Ballotonia

I'm sure TITO and the FRA would be glad to hear that you think they are part of the problem

The FRA would probably help I'd think. Unless FRA-UDL relations have drastically worsened since I left it, which I suppose is possible. But the FRA's definitely more willing to cooperate with others than TITO.

[Ballotonia]

If the invaders in this thread are genuinely concerned that things aren't going well for the UDL, they're welcome to assist in the liberation of Belgium. Keep in mind, if you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem

Ballotonia

I'm sure TITO and the FRA would be glad to hear that you think they are part of the problem

Nice try, but I was clearly addressing invaders here. *YOU* are part of the problem.

Ballotonia