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Ad Infinitum
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Postby Ad Infinitum » Thu May 12, 2011 1:51 pm

Halcones wrote:
Open letter to TBH: We don't care, leave us out of it.


If you are there, or anywhere in the vicinity, we shall take you out and claim glory over it. Your defence in Samit was clearly incomplete. The region was still vulnerable to further attack. If a defender delegate loses a region to raiders, it's pretty embarrassing. You could have easily ejected and banned us had you been paying attention. I know TITO is active at major update. It's your job to ensure the safety of the regions we hit.


Some points:
1. You didn't "take [me] out" of anything. I left the region several hours prior to you entering it.
2. It wasn't a defense, we were cleaning up your trash.
3. Every founderless region is vulnerable to attack. We can't garrison every one of them.
4a. We didn't lose the region. We left, you took it.
4b. The only thing embarrassing about it is how embarrassing you claim it to be. Like I said, we don't care.
5. Yes, we are. We defend. We don't play your single player campaign, it's all yours.
6. False. See point five (5).

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EDIT: I thought of a new analogy for what you did in Samit. It's like you broke into a soldier's home while he was deployed to Afghanistan, broke all the dishes, and then blamed him of failing to protect his property. We're off fighting a real war, you're back home committing petty crimes.

It is boooooooooooring to us, the real players in the raider/defender game. If you want respect, if you want glory, if you want to make us scared, if you want to have a real fight, we'll see you out there. And we will stop the hell out of you. Until you stop playing the same hand ten, fifteen, twenty, hell, a hundred times an update, we're going to keep fighting where it matters against an opposing force that isn't completely irrelevant.
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Postby The FTR » Thu May 12, 2011 1:54 pm

Great job! I am jealous. Of course, you probably won't reveal your secrets.
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Postby Herrebrugh » Thu May 12, 2011 2:01 pm

There's only one thing I can say: So what? I don't care.
Uyt naem Zijner Majeſteyt Jozef III, bij de gratie Godts, Koningh der Herrebrugheylanden, Prins van Rheda, Heer van Jozefslandt, enz. enz. enz.
Im Namen Seiner Majeſtät Joſeph III., von Gottes Gnaden König der Herrenbrückinſeln, Prinz von Rheda, Herr von Josephsland etc. etc. etc.


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Postby Mike the Progressive » Thu May 12, 2011 2:05 pm

All you did was go to a few regions, become delegate, change the WFBE, and leave to the next? BFD.

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Postby Malgrave » Thu May 12, 2011 2:05 pm

Entirely pointless. Seriously. Do something better with your time.
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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Thu May 12, 2011 2:05 pm

I fail to understand the concept or point of raiding.
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Postby Herrebrugh » Thu May 12, 2011 2:05 pm

Mike the Progressive wrote:All you did was go to a few regions, become delegate, change the WFBE, and leave to the next? BFD.


For once I can agree with a capitalist. Nice going! :P
Uyt naem Zijner Majeſteyt Jozef III, bij de gratie Godts, Koningh der Herrebrugheylanden, Prins van Rheda, Heer van Jozefslandt, enz. enz. enz.
Im Namen Seiner Majeſtät Joſeph III., von Gottes Gnaden König der Herrenbrückinſeln, Prinz von Rheda, Herr von Josephsland etc. etc. etc.


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Postby Estovakiva » Thu May 12, 2011 2:10 pm

Samozaryadnyastan wrote:I fail to understand the concept or point of raiding.


I agree what is the point???.

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Postby Belschaft » Thu May 12, 2011 2:13 pm

You know what, I don't really give a crap about your record. Actually hit active regions with a decent number of WA's for once, like your competition does, and then boast about how great you are.
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Postby Ad Infinitum » Thu May 12, 2011 2:16 pm

Belschaft wrote:You know what, I don't really give a crap about your record. Actually hit active regions with a decent number of WA's for once, like your competition does, and then boast about how great you are.


He claims he can't because of limited manpower. I claim that every region starts off with one nation. If he recruited two, he can recruit a hundred.

I think he's just scared to go up against the real powers. Big fish in a small pond syndrome.
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Klaus Devestatorie
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Thu May 12, 2011 2:43 pm

If TBH can raid 19, TITO can come around and clear the WFE off 19 regions.

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Postby Ad Infinitum » Thu May 12, 2011 2:46 pm

Klaus Devestatorie wrote:If TBH can raid 19, TITO can come around and clear the WFE off 19 regions.


I must have had a premonition about this post...

Ad Infinitum wrote:It is boooooooooooring to us, the real players in the raider/defender game. If you want respect, if you want glory, if you want to make us scared, if you want to have a real fight, we'll see you out there. And we will stop the hell out of you. Until you stop playing the same hand ten, fifteen, twenty, hell, a hundred times an update, we're going to keep fighting where it matters against an opposing force that isn't completely irrelevant.
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Postby Halcones » Fri May 13, 2011 12:16 am

What a laugh.

TBH has actually begun to recruit more. When we have the update army, we'll cause as much abliteration as possible. We certainly have no fear. Whilst we only have two or three, we'll cause as much damage as we can to the small targets.

The fact is you got banned in Samit, as well as your other friends. This is an inconvenience for you if it gets raided again and you try to move there. Of course you care.

To all those who think this is pointless, it is a great source of fun. You should join in. It is also very challenging to be able to hit regions accurately.

Anyway, we again got 19 regions last update. One of them overthrew a native delegate. Check the TBH RMB for more details.

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Postby Samozaryadnyastan » Fri May 13, 2011 12:36 am

Well... no.
Some people join regions for fun and to be social, and to have some RP on the RMB there. Then you come in on a 'raid', change the delegate and boot everyone.

On the website I come from, people get permabanned for that.
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Postby Herrebrugh » Fri May 13, 2011 12:56 am

Halcones wrote:What a laugh.

TBH has actually begun to recruit more. When we have the update army, we'll cause as much abliteration as possible. We certainly have no fear. Whilst we only have two or three, we'll cause as much damage as we can to the small targets.

The fact is you got banned in Samit, as well as your other friends. This is an inconvenience for you if it gets raided again and you try to move there. Of course you care.

To all those who think this is pointless, it is a great source of fun. You should join in. It is also very challenging to be able to hit regions accurately.

Anyway, we again got 19 regions last update. One of them overthrew a native delegate. Check the TBH RMB for more details.


You've left me baffled. How is it possible to care while not caring? Please, explain.
Uyt naem Zijner Majeſteyt Jozef III, bij de gratie Godts, Koningh der Herrebrugheylanden, Prins van Rheda, Heer van Jozefslandt, enz. enz. enz.
Im Namen Seiner Majeſtät Joſeph III., von Gottes Gnaden König der Herrenbrückinſeln, Prinz von Rheda, Herr von Josephsland etc. etc. etc.


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Halcones
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Postby Halcones » Fri May 13, 2011 1:23 am

They say they don't care yet we all know they care.

The Black Hawks only boot everyone if justified - if a region shows aggression towards The Black Hawks, then we shall take action. Otherwise, we will only display our art work on your region and cause mild disruption. Just accept us as part of your daily life. We're like storms that come and go.

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Klaus Devestatorie
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Fri May 13, 2011 1:41 am

If you're worried about looking for a good fight, why don't you stroll on over to Nationalist Union. The founder and some of the nations he controlled like Comaack have notable RP histories, and they've had nothing to do with gameplay. Or do you ignore such places deliberately?

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Postby Estovakiva » Fri May 13, 2011 1:44 am

We are not impressed, mosquitos are not to be bothered with it. Stil what is the point of raiding and defending?.
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Halcones
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Postby Halcones » Fri May 13, 2011 1:57 am

It's the only fun thing in the game, that's why.

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Postby World War Z » Fri May 13, 2011 2:19 am

Halcones wrote:
Open letter to TBH: We don't care, leave us out of it.


If you are there, or anywhere in the vicinity, we shall take you out and claim glory over it. Your defence in Samit was clearly incomplete. The region was still vulnerable to further attack. If a defender delegate loses a region to raiders, it's pretty embarrassing. You could have easily ejected and banned us had you been paying attention. I know TITO is active at major update. It's your job to ensure the safety of the regions we hit.


Here's the thing. Yes we were on at the update and in fact we watched as you pounced on one miniscule region after another with your switchers. You were taking dying regions that had one inactive nation in them. Some of the ones with more nations were often the result of your own puppets from the last time you came through to tag the same region you had on a previous night. We were actually more concerned about the activities of real invaders, the ones who threaten actual regional communities.

TITO is involved in defending regions against invaders. We're not as involved in chasing after the invader equivalent of a couple of kids with spray cans mucking up the world fact book of a tiny, dying region and then running off to do the same elsewhere. What you do isn't raiding, it's petty vandalism.

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Postby Malgrave » Fri May 13, 2011 3:12 am

Estovakiva wrote:We are not impressed, mosquitos are not to be bothered with it. Stil what is the point of raiding and defending?.


No idea. It's completely pointless.
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Postby Tanzoria » Fri May 13, 2011 4:11 am

How many of the regions that you invaded had more than 5 nations?

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Postby Oliver the Mediocre » Fri May 13, 2011 9:54 am

Malgrave wrote:
Estovakiva wrote:We are not impressed, mosquitos are not to be bothered with it. Stil what is the point of raiding and defending?.

No idea. It's completely pointless.

Well, it's fun, and it's a lot more fun when you try to take on regions in such a way that the defenders might actually try to stop you. That said, I'm certainly not impressed by Halcones' efforts any longer. Back when he cleared 10 in an update with precision timing, that was impressive. It's not anymore. I'd like to see him achieve the same precision timing with ten troops moving at once. I'd like to see him hit a target with any degree of significance, history, and an active Delegate with more than two endorsements. I'd like to see him take a region and hold it for a week.

What you do now is tired, it's old hat, it's boring to watch, and frankly I cannot understand how it isn't boring to do. Marking up the WFE of a region with no active players in it anymore cannot even be declared an annoyance. It's just a thing that happened. Do something worthwhile, would you?
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Postby Earth22 » Fri May 13, 2011 10:04 am

Oliver the Mediocre wrote:
Malgrave wrote:No idea. It's completely pointless.

Well, it's fun, and it's a lot more fun when you try to take on regions in such a way that the defenders might actually try to stop you. That said, I'm certainly not impressed by Halcones' efforts any longer. Back when he cleared 10 in an update with precision timing, that was impressive. It's not anymore. I'd like to see him achieve the same precision timing with ten troops moving at once. I'd like to see him hit a target with any degree of significance, history, and an active Delegate with more than two endorsements. I'd like to see him take a region and hold it for a week.

What you do now is tired, it's old hat, it's boring to watch, and frankly I cannot understand how it isn't boring to do. Marking up the WFE of a region with no active players in it anymore cannot even be declared an annoyance. It's just a thing that happened. Do something worthwhile, would you?

I agree with Ollie. It's not real raiding anymore; it's just WFE spam.

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Postby Ad Infinitum » Fri May 13, 2011 10:31 am

Halcones wrote:abliteration


*cough*

Halcones wrote:It's the only fun thing in the game, that's why.


Then play a new game.
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