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Postby AynRandom » Tue May 03, 2011 9:02 pm

I have a problem with this game not showing the average life expectancy of the citizens of my nation. I would like a graph added to show the life expectancy of males, females and different races.
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Postby Zorandoia » Tue May 03, 2011 9:10 pm

I think "races" might be rather hard to implement (and, please forgive me, racist).

Otherwise, that could be cool.
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Postby AynRandom » Tue May 03, 2011 9:16 pm

It shows the causes of death but not the amount of actual deaths and at what age. I'd like to see this implemented.

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Postby Aescentia » Tue May 03, 2011 9:30 pm

Agreed, properly-sensitive 'races' graph would be hard to implement.

It's a good idea, though.

Also, this should go in Technical.
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Postby AynRandom » Tue May 03, 2011 9:36 pm

It's a gameplay enhancing idea. I fail to see how that's a technical issue. Thank you for your input all the same.

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Postby Lordieth » Wed May 04, 2011 4:33 am

Game mechanics and feature suggestions go in technical.

Average Life Expectancy would be a nice line graph to have. It could be calculated from already available data. Not sure about gender. Race isn't tracked i'm pretty sure, and would be a risky addition.
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Postby Herrebrugh » Wed May 04, 2011 5:09 am

Lordieth wrote:Game mechanics and feature suggestions go in technical.

Average Life Expectancy would be a nice line graph to have. It could be calculated from already available data. Not sure about gender. Race isn't tracked i'm pretty sure, and would be a risky addition.


If we where to track races it would probably use Bigtopians and Liliputians etc. Those are the only races used by NS.
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Postby Lordieth » Wed May 04, 2011 6:13 am

I don't think any sort of racial divide should be added - those are fictitious 'nations' and those issues don't mention race explicitly. Race should remain ambiguous and left to roleplay.
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Postby Mature Related » Wed May 04, 2011 6:28 am

race is brought up in some of the issues though, perhaps if hate speech is allowed it could get out of control until a genocide happens, or they get neglected resulting in shorter life spans, or they leave you country, resulting in less workers and less economy.

anyways, it would probably be better to refer to race as the "minority" and "majority" for simplicities sake. The aparthed(sp?), would be an example of racism coming from the minority, so it works both ways(the common way being from the majority).

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Postby Northwest Slobovia » Wed May 04, 2011 6:35 am

Race is right out. Beyond the problems of labelling "races", why would they apply in NS? Some nations aren't even human...

That leaves just male and female. I can see some countries having big differences because of policy, but for most places, it'll be just like most real world counties: they move in lockstep. That doesn't make a very exciting graph.
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Postby The Murtunian Tribes » Wed May 04, 2011 10:59 am

Mature Related wrote:race is brought up in some of the issues though, perhaps if hate speech is allowed it could get out of control until a genocide happens, or they get neglected resulting in shorter life spans, or they leave you country, resulting in less workers and less economy.

anyways, it would probably be better to refer to race as the "minority" and "majority" for simplicities sake. The aparthed(sp?), would be an example of racism coming from the minority, so it works both ways(the common way being from the majority).

The problem is that there is no way to determine what the ethnicity of a country might be. Especially since these are ficticious nations and therefore the ethnicities themselves might be made up.

If you want to be technical, very few people die from "old age" per se. In fact, I think it's no longer listed as a CoD among American medical institutions. The reason being that a CoD can always be linked to something specific (stroke, cancer, organ failure, etc.), and this is what will be listed, regardless of the age of the patient. Obviously, whatever condition killed them was exacerbated by their age, making them to weak and frail to fight it. So that makes it difficult to separate your nations CoDs and calculate a life expectancy.

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Postby Unibot II » Wed May 04, 2011 6:07 pm

Could make a good census though.
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Postby Mature Related » Thu May 05, 2011 12:11 am

The Murtunian Tribes wrote:The problem is that there is no way to determine what the ethnicity of a country might be. Especially since these are ficticious nations and therefore the ethnicities themselves might be made up.


That's the thing though, you don't actually have to give label their ethnicity, simply recognizing that they are different is enough, hense minority and majority. It can be applied to Aliens, Elves, People, as it is species/race neutral termonology.

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Postby The Most Glorious Hack » Thu May 05, 2011 2:13 am

Mature Related wrote:race is brought up in some of the issues though

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Postby The Murtunian Tribes » Thu May 05, 2011 4:06 pm

Mature Related wrote:
The Murtunian Tribes wrote:The problem is that there is no way to determine what the ethnicity of a country might be. Especially since these are ficticious nations and therefore the ethnicities themselves might be made up.


That's the thing though, you don't actually have to give label their ethnicity, simply recognizing that they are different is enough, hense minority and majority. It can be applied to Aliens, Elves, People, as it is species/race neutral termonology.


Alright I think what you said is that it should be listed as majority, minority 1, minority 2 , and so on, or something of a similar effect. Correct me if I'm wrong. If that is the case, then no that wouldn't work either, because ethnicity is so vague in this game that it's impossible to even pinpoint how many different groups live in a particular nation, at least not without a massive overhaul to issue effects (good luck getting that :p ).


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