Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 10:24 pmMousebumples wrote:Excellent. Thanks for your signature. We're looking at updating this public document, so look for that in the near future.
Any movement on this, by chance?
Any movement on this, by chance?
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Arnhelm Declaration of Recruitment Standards
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Posted: Fri May 15, 2015 10:24 pmAny movement on this, by chance?
Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 7:26 amThis is great, why hasn't it been addressed already? I think this is something we need the game to have happen regardless of whether this gets proposed or not.
Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 8:24 pmPosted: Sun May 24, 2015 6:52 pmIn a unanimous vote of 7-0 by the Assembly Council of the People's Democratic Assembly, The Communist Bloc has ratified this treaty.
Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2015 10:37 pmToday the Senate of Equinox passed the Arnhelm Declaration of Recruitment Standards, and was signed into law by myself, Chancellor of Equinox
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:25 amGreat news!
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 3:56 amI sign the decleration with my region, revolutionary alternativa
Posted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 7:13 amI will never understand why small regions sign so fast. It just makes no sense to me when their region isn't even off the ground. If we go off the liklehood of them getting off the ground; its ussualy a waste of time.
Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:18 pmI, seanascal of the Kingdom_of_ireland with full permission of my region's inhabitants, ratify and accept the Arnhelm Treaty
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 9:12 amThe European Treaty Organization has signed the declaration.
Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2016 11:08 amEuropeia, your updated treaty.
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:44 pm*
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:44 pmHey Europeia, I updated your list of signatories for you.
List of Active Signatories:
- Council of Narnia (signed 2/11/13)
- The Land of Kings and Emperors1 (signed 2/16/13)
- Kantrias (signed 2/16/13)
- Aluvean Seas (signed 2/18/13)
- The New Inquisition (signed 2/19/13)
- Social Liberal Union (signed 2/19/13)
- The United Federation (signed 2/21/13)
- Europeia (signed 2/25/13)
- The British Isles (signed 3/6/13)
- Nysa (signed 3/14/13)
- Ainur (3/18/13)
- United Peoples Front for Socialism (signed 3/24/13)
- The New Galactic Empire (signed 3/26/14)
- Ceseris (signed 4/7/14)
- Atlantis (signed 4/8/14); includes the region of Halo (4/8/14)
- The North American Union (signed Oct 27, 2014)
- The Coalition of Democratic Nations (signed Dec 30, 2014 )
- USSD (signed May 04, 2015)
-Lazarus Grand Peninsula (signed May 15, 2015); The Order of the southern north (successor region).
-Equinox (signed Jun 28, 2015)
Inactive Signatories
- Kingdom of Peppers (signed Jun 06, 2014)
- Hallowell Commonwealth (signed Jun 14, 2014)
-The Revolutionary Communist Assembly (signed Aug 02, 2014)
- Carpe Diem (signed Aug 3, 2014)
- Wistlor (signed Jan 04, 2015)
- Peoples Federation of Qandaristan (signed Feb 12, 2015)
- Lightmont (signed May 15, 2015)
- Archmont (signed May 20, 2015)
- revolutionary alternativa (signed Jul 18, 2015)
- Kingdom_of_ireland (signed Nov 25, 2015)
- European Treaty Organization (signed Jan 25, 2016)
- Sanctuary of Syl (signed Jan 25, 2016)
1. The Land of Kings and Emperors also signed and ratified the Declaration on behalf of its subsidiary regions, including: Norwood; Polis; Niso; Ilum; Maxonberg; The Land of Dragonia; Imperial Elite; Moldavia; Tartarus; Vienna; Red Liberty Alliance and Munster.
List of Active Signatories:
- Council of Narnia (signed 2/11/13)
- The Land of Kings and Emperors1 (signed 2/16/13)
- Kantrias (signed 2/16/13)
- Aluvean Seas (signed 2/18/13)
- The New Inquisition (signed 2/19/13)
- Social Liberal Union (signed 2/19/13)
- The United Federation (signed 2/21/13)
- Europeia (signed 2/25/13)
- The British Isles (signed 3/6/13)
- Nysa (signed 3/14/13)
- Ainur (3/18/13)
- United Peoples Front for Socialism (signed 3/24/13)
- The New Galactic Empire (signed 3/26/14)
- Ceseris (signed 4/7/14)
- Atlantis (signed 4/8/14); includes the region of Halo (4/8/14)
- The North American Union (signed Oct 27, 2014)
- The Coalition of Democratic Nations (signed Dec 30, 2014 )
- USSD (signed May 04, 2015)
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-Equinox (signed Jun 28, 2015)
Inactive Signatories
- Kingdom of Peppers (signed Jun 06, 2014)
- Hallowell Commonwealth (signed Jun 14, 2014)
-The Revolutionary Communist Assembly (signed Aug 02, 2014)
- Carpe Diem (signed Aug 3, 2014)
- Wistlor (signed Jan 04, 2015)
- Peoples Federation of Qandaristan (signed Feb 12, 2015)
- Lightmont (signed May 15, 2015)
- Archmont (signed May 20, 2015)
- revolutionary alternativa (signed Jul 18, 2015)
- Kingdom_of_ireland (signed Nov 25, 2015)
- European Treaty Organization (signed Jan 25, 2016)
- Sanctuary of Syl (signed Jan 25, 2016)
1. The Land of Kings and Emperors also signed and ratified the Declaration on behalf of its subsidiary regions, including: Norwood; Polis; Niso; Ilum; Maxonberg; The Land of Dragonia; Imperial Elite; Moldavia; Tartarus; Vienna; Red Liberty Alliance and Munster.
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:36 pmUh, you don't get to just declare yourself the new Registrar of this treaty. The treaty is pretty clear the President of Europeia is the Registrar.
Swakistek was the President at the time, but the President of Europeia wasn't a permanent position, it changed every few months by election. The office of President was recently abolished, but its constitutional successor is Chief of State, so the new Registrar would be Europeia's current Chief of State, Primorye Oblast. If you have concerns about maintenance of the treaty, you should contact Prim. But Enadia doesn't get to declare itself the new Registrar of a recruitment treaty that has been in effect for years and names another region's official as the Registrar, especially given your region's recruitment practices.
Swakistek was the President at the time, but the President of Europeia wasn't a permanent position, it changed every few months by election. The office of President was recently abolished, but its constitutional successor is Chief of State, so the new Registrar would be Europeia's current Chief of State, Primorye Oblast. If you have concerns about maintenance of the treaty, you should contact Prim. But Enadia doesn't get to declare itself the new Registrar of a recruitment treaty that has been in effect for years and names another region's official as the Registrar, especially given your region's recruitment practices.
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:44 pmWhat kind of a joke is it when you declare yourselves registrar of a years-old treaty that already has one?
A bad one. That's what.
A bad one. That's what.
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 6:59 pmThreads merged. If the region of Europeia would like a new thread for their treaty, please let moderation know and we can lock this one.
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:25 pmCormactopia Prime wrote:Uh, you don't get to just declare yourself the new Registrar of this treaty. The treaty is pretty clear the President of Europeia is the Registrar.
Swakistek was the President at the time, but the President of Europeia wasn't a permanent position, it changed every few months by election. The office of President was recently abolished, but its constitutional successor is Chief of State, so the new Registrar would be Europeia's current Chief of State, Primorye Oblast. If you have concerns about maintenance of the treaty, you should contact Prim. But Enadia doesn't get to declare itself the new Registrar of a recruitment treaty that has been in effect for years and names another region's official as the Registrar, especially given your region's recruitment practices.
Ah, my home region didn't give me any directive regarding this. This is entirely of my own initiative.
Now, I just thought that since nobody's bothered to care about maintaining this thread for three years when this is supposed to be some big deal in the game, and considering my region wants to be a part of this against any good sense, I felt it was good enough reasion to bring this up to date and act as a janitor. If you've got a problem with that; then get the right people to do their job, do it yourself, or I'm going to do it until somebody more appropriate comes along to maintain this.
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:31 pmKaystein wrote:Cormactopia Prime wrote:Uh, you don't get to just declare yourself the new Registrar of this treaty. The treaty is pretty clear the President of Europeia is the Registrar.
Swakistek was the President at the time, but the President of Europeia wasn't a permanent position, it changed every few months by election. The office of President was recently abolished, but its constitutional successor is Chief of State, so the new Registrar would be Europeia's current Chief of State, Primorye Oblast. If you have concerns about maintenance of the treaty, you should contact Prim. But Enadia doesn't get to declare itself the new Registrar of a recruitment treaty that has been in effect for years and names another region's official as the Registrar, especially given your region's recruitment practices.
Ah, my home region didn't give me any directive regarding this. This is entirely of my own initiative.
Now, I just thought that since nobody's bothered to care about maintaining this thread for three years when this is supposed to be some big deal in the game, and considering my region wants to be a part of this against any common sense, then I felt it was necessary to bring this up to date and act as a janitor basically. If you've got a problem with that; then get the right people to do their job, do it yourself, or I'm going to do it until somebody more appropriate comes along to maintain this.
That's.....not how things work.
Let's translate this to, say, snow forts.
If there is a snow fort that is very important, and the maintainer of the snow fort knows that it exists, but doesn't maintain it, you don't get to come in and be like "This is now my snow fort and I get to decide who comes in and who doesn't." It doesn't work that way. Even if the snow fort isn't actively being maintained, it's a perfectly fine snow fort that works, so you can't declare yourself Registrar of that snow fort.
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:44 pmNorth Prarie wrote:Kaystein wrote:
Ah, my home region didn't give me any directive regarding this. This is entirely of my own initiative.
Now, I just thought that since nobody's bothered to care about maintaining this thread for three years when this is supposed to be some big deal in the game, and considering my region wants to be a part of this against any common sense, then I felt it was necessary to bring this up to date and act as a janitor basically. If you've got a problem with that; then get the right people to do their job, do it yourself, or I'm going to do it until somebody more appropriate comes along to maintain this.
That's.....not how things work.
Let's translate this to, say, snow forts.
If there is a snow fort that is very important, and the maintainer of the snow fort knows that it exists, but doesn't maintain it, you don't get to come in and be like "This is now my snow fort and I get to decide who comes in and who doesn't." It doesn't work that way. Even if the snow fort isn't actively being maintained, it's a perfectly fine snow fort that works, so you can't declare yourself Registrar of that snow fort.
My region's leaders couldn't sign this without getting warned for gravedigging before. Now we can. That's what concerned me.
I don't plan on going on some retarded power-trip with this, if that's what worried you. Europeia needs to update this thread though. Until they do, I'll reluctantly do it instead if any region joins. (Sorry about the title of registrar thing.)
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:55 pmKaystein wrote:Cormactopia Prime wrote:Uh, you don't get to just declare yourself the new Registrar of this treaty. The treaty is pretty clear the President of Europeia is the Registrar.
Swakistek was the President at the time, but the President of Europeia wasn't a permanent position, it changed every few months by election. The office of President was recently abolished, but its constitutional successor is Chief of State, so the new Registrar would be Europeia's current Chief of State, Primorye Oblast. If you have concerns about maintenance of the treaty, you should contact Prim. But Enadia doesn't get to declare itself the new Registrar of a recruitment treaty that has been in effect for years and names another region's official as the Registrar, especially given your region's recruitment practices.
Ah, my home region didn't give me any directive regarding this. This is entirely of my own initiative.
Now, I just thought that since nobody's bothered to care about maintaining this thread for three years when this is supposed to be some big deal in the game, and considering my region wants to be a part of this against any good sense, I felt it was good enough reasion to bring this up to date and act as a janitor. If you've got a problem with that; then get the right people to do their job, do it yourself, or I'm going to do it until somebody more appropriate comes along to maintain this.
This treaty has been dead for three years (as you pointed out.) Nobody said it was a big deal. The purpose of it is pretty important (preventing poaching), but the document itself is pretty worthless these days, hence it not being updated.
Kaystein wrote:North Prarie wrote:That's.....not how things work.
Let's translate this to, say, snow forts.
If there is a snow fort that is very important, and the maintainer of the snow fort knows that it exists, but doesn't maintain it, you don't get to come in and be like "This is now my snow fort and I get to decide who comes in and who doesn't." It doesn't work that way. Even if the snow fort isn't actively being maintained, it's a perfectly fine snow fort that works, so you can't declare yourself Registrar of that snow fort.
My region's leaders couldn't sign this without getting warned for gravedigging before. Now we can. That's what concerned me.
I don't plan on going on some retarded power-trip with this, if that's what worried you. Europeia needs to update this thread though. Until they do, I'll reluctantly do it instead if any region joins. (Sorry about the title of registrar thing.)
You are literally breaking the treaty that your region is about to sign. Congratulations.
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:26 pmThe Greatest Bestest Nation wrote:This treaty has been dead for three years (as you pointed out.) Nobody said it was a big deal. The purpose of it is pretty important (preventing poaching), but the document itself is pretty worthless these days, hence it not being updated.
You are literally breaking the treaty that your region is about to sign. Congratulations.
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:29 pmKaystein wrote:The Greatest Bestest Nation wrote:This treaty has been dead for three years (as you pointed out.) Nobody said it was a big deal. The purpose of it is pretty important (preventing poaching), but the document itself is pretty worthless these days, hence it not being updated.
You are literally breaking the treaty that your region is about to sign. Congratulations.
Nobody told you to sign the treaty. We just told you to stop recruiting from us ("us" meaning nearly everybody.) You can stop recruiting from us without signing a dead treaty over it.
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:40 pmWell I haven't gone out of my way to recruit from a user-created region. So you seem to be barking at the wrong person right now in that regard.
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 9:45 pmKaystein wrote:The Greatest Bestest Nation wrote:Nobody told you to sign the treaty. We just told you to stop recruiting from us ("us" meaning nearly everybody.) You can stop recruiting from us without signing a dead treaty over it.
Well I haven't gone out of my way to recruit from a user-created region. So you seem to be barking at the wrong person right now in that regard.
Your region, Enadia, is notorious for doing so (among other things.) The "you" was referring to your region.
Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:04 pmThe Greatest Bestest Nation wrote:Kaystein wrote:
Ah, my home region didn't give me any directive regarding this. This is entirely of my own initiative.
Now, I just thought that since nobody's bothered to care about maintaining this thread for three years when this is supposed to be some big deal in the game, and considering my region wants to be a part of this against any good sense, I felt it was good enough reasion to bring this up to date and act as a janitor. If you've got a problem with that; then get the right people to do their job, do it yourself, or I'm going to do it until somebody more appropriate comes along to maintain this.
This treaty has been dead for three years (as you pointed out.) Nobody said it was a big deal. The purpose of it is pretty important (preventing poaching), but the document itself is pretty worthless these days, hence it not being updated.Kaystein wrote:
My region's leaders couldn't sign this without getting warned for gravedigging before. Now we can. That's what concerned me.
I don't plan on going on some retarded power-trip with this, if that's what worried you. Europeia needs to update this thread though. Until they do, I'll reluctantly do it instead if any region joins. (Sorry about the title of registrar thing.)
You are literally breaking the treaty that your region is about to sign. Congratulations.
Wow, when you try to do some good and a group of sour patch kids pitches a hissy fit. Like hey great job to any regions that are doing better for the community.
I have to wonder though why is such a great document that has such great potential, now dead and useless as described by Greatest Bestest Nation.
If the purpose is of such significance then why did it go inactive. What were the causes and or reasonings for such inactivity. Surely the document is still of great significance and that maybe the owners are just a tad behind in maintenance efforts that could be due to a variety of reasons. I know if I was having trouble keep up with important documents that are meant to create a positive community then I would be much appreciative of someone taking time out of their day to help myself get caught up and back on track. I mean......my lord what kind of monster of a person would help make my job easier, time for a public flogging. People really should be ashamed of themselves for trying to help make other's lives easier. Yeah that kind of mindset and we all wonder why the world is the way it is and why life sucks. A little human decency and civility can go a long way.