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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 12:31 pm
by Bhang Bhang Duc
The Seeker of Power wrote:
Dilber wrote:Congrats to everyone here!

I look forward to working closely with you all.


Hail the New Pacific Order!
Hail the West Pacific Order!

You forgot New TAO Order Ele. :)

PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:48 pm
by Tinhampton
So no more Provinces, I take it?

PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 5:48 pm
by Xoriet
Tinhampton wrote:So no more Provinces, I take it?

No, no Provinces anymore.

PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2020 11:25 pm
by Bowzin
Congratulations to everyone! Excited to work with all of you.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:30 pm
by ShrewLlamaLand
It just goes to show what a joke of an administration the NPO is running within The Pacific when they're now down over 100 delegate endorsements on a UCR. Not even a good UCR, I might add.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:40 pm
by Xoriet
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:It just goes to show what a joke of an administration the NPO is running within The Pacific when they're now down over 100 delegate endorsements on a UCR. Not even a good UCR, I might add.

Fun history lesson for you: XKI was the first region to hit a 1000 endorsement Delegate and once had more endorsements than all of the GCRs. If this means UCRs are rising in numbers and prevalence again, that does more favors than harm to GCRs.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:47 pm
by ShrewLlamaLand
Xoriet wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:It just goes to show what a joke of an administration the NPO is running within The Pacific when they're now down over 100 delegate endorsements on a UCR. Not even a good UCR, I might add.

Fun history lesson for you: XKI was the first region to hit a 1000 endorsement Delegate and once had more endorsements than all of the GCRs. If this means UCRs are rising in numbers and prevalence again, that does more favors than harm to GCRs.

Oh I'm well aware of XKI's history. The major difference this time is that, back then, XKI was massive. This time around, it's just The Pacific that's small.

You've on even ground with the other feeders and yet you've got 49% of TNP's WA nations and just 42% of their endorsments.

And yeah, more favours to most GCRs sure, just not The Pacific :)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:49 pm
by Jar Wattinree
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Not even a good UCR, I might add.

As opposed to the CCD? I heard one of its delegate's decided Thanos had the right idea. Meanwhile I've yet to witness XKI doing something as silly as that.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 2:56 pm
by Xoriet
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:And yeah, more favours to most GCRs sure, just not The Pacific :)

I think you misunderstand what I mean by "favors" and why I consider this to be more beneficial to The Pacific and not at all embarrassing, but that's probably a good thing.

Endorsements are for regional security, not for bragging rights. I'll just sit here and wait for the army you plan to summon to assail this smaller and weaker Pacific.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:02 pm
by ShrewLlamaLand
Xoriet wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:And yeah, more favours to most GCRs sure, just not The Pacific :)

I think you misunderstand what I mean by "favors" and why I consider this to be more beneficial to The Pacific and not at all embarrassing, but that's probably a good thing.

Endorsements are for regional security, not for bragging rights. I'll just sit here and wait for the army you plan to summon to assail this smaller and weaker Pacific.

Actually, delegate endorsements are also for voting power within the World Assembly. The more endorsements on the delegate, the more votes they get.

I've written a few posts about it in the past if you weren't aware:
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=482132
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=483182

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:05 pm
by Elegarth
Yeah, we've seen you cry about your incapacity to get a proposal approved. Next!

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:10 pm
by Xoriet
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Xoriet wrote:I think you misunderstand what I mean by "favors" and why I consider this to be more beneficial to The Pacific and not at all embarrassing, but that's probably a good thing.

Endorsements are for regional security, not for bragging rights. I'll just sit here and wait for the army you plan to summon to assail this smaller and weaker Pacific.

Actually, delegate endorsements are also for voting power within the World Assembly. The more endorsements on the delegate, the more votes they get.

I've written a few posts about it in the past if you weren't aware:
viewtopic.php?f=15&t=482132
viewtopic.php?f=24&t=483182

Yes, I've seen. I'm not concerned about WA voting power, either. When I write proposals on occasion, I aim for quality and thorough research on my topics, and rely on that to carry my proposals. I'm not obsessed with a numbers game. Maybe if you'd made an effort to start on something that wasn't a self-Commend for supporting fascism and then kept pushing it, you wouldn't have to start worrying about who is going to stomp you by default over the actual content and whether or not you've written something that people consider worth passing.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:20 pm
by Lord Dominator
Pretty sure some people still have active unendorsement campaigns running against TP, at that.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:24 pm
by Jar Wattinree
Lord Dominator wrote:Pretty sure some people still have active unendorsement campaigns running against TP, at that.

Just one person.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:34 pm
by The Gilded Star
I did notice a few days ago that The Pacific lagged about 300~ endorsements behind the other Pacifics, which surprised me, especially since East Durthang is the longest seated Pacifican delegate (and 2nd longest GCR delegate overall). It made me wonder what was going on (or not going on) to cause that discrepancy.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:43 pm
by Xoriet
The Gilded Star wrote:I did notice a few days ago that The Pacific lagged about 300~ endorsements behind the other Pacifics, which surprised me, especially since East Durthang is the longest seated Pacifican delegate (and 2nd longest GCR delegate overall). It made me wonder what was going on (or not going on) to cause that discrepancy.

A better comparison is XKI and TP when it comes to endorsement gains in recent times, as we were roughly the same around the time the Drewpocalypse started. The reasons why vary and primarily in my opinion relate to the WA programs which involve high encouragement of endotarting as a reward for endorsing the Delegate and other security officers in the other feeders. TP has generally had the least number of endorsements in our GCR group, which is likely connected to the fact that we do not encourage endotarting and have a historically low endocap. High endotarting is something nations seem to enjoy in general. Then there's the unendorsement campaign on our Delegate that's been going on for the last year and almost a half. Take your pick.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:47 pm
by Kuriko
Lol Shrew making fun of The Pacific. Man, CCD is salty as all hell lately.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:56 pm
by The Gilded Star
Xoriet wrote:
The Gilded Star wrote:I did notice a few days ago that The Pacific lagged about 300~ endorsements behind the other Pacifics, which surprised me, especially since East Durthang is the longest seated Pacifican delegate (and 2nd longest GCR delegate overall). It made me wonder what was going on (or not going on) to cause that discrepancy.

A better comparison is XKI and TP when it comes to endorsement gains in recent times, as we were roughly the same around the time the Drewpocalypse started. The reasons why vary and primarily in my opinion relate to the WA programs which involve high encouragement of endotarting as a reward for endorsing the Delegate and other security officers in the other feeders. TP has generally had the least number of endorsements in our GCR group, which is likely connected to the fact that we do not encourage endotarting and have a historically low endocap. High endotarting is something nations seem to enjoy in general. Then there's the unendorsement campaign on our Delegate that's been going on for the last year and almost a half. Take your pick.


Makes sense to me, thank you for the explanation.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 3:59 pm
by ShrewLlamaLand
Xoriet wrote:
The Gilded Star wrote:I did notice a few days ago that The Pacific lagged about 300~ endorsements behind the other Pacifics, which surprised me, especially since East Durthang is the longest seated Pacifican delegate (and 2nd longest GCR delegate overall). It made me wonder what was going on (or not going on) to cause that discrepancy.

A better comparison is XKI and TP when it comes to endorsement gains in recent times, as we were roughly the same around the time the Drewpocalypse started.

That's a terrible comparison. One is a UCR that has to actively recruit nations (or have a YouTuber do it for them). The other is a GCR that passively has new nations be created inside it.

See the difference?

Kuriko wrote:Lol Shrew making fun of The Pacific. Man, CCD is salty as all hell lately.

No salt this time (or at all, really), someone asked I make a post here. ;)

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:03 pm
by Wymondham
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Kuriko wrote:Lol Shrew making fun of The Pacific. Man, CCD is salty as all hell lately.

No salt this time (or at all, really), someone asked I make a post here. ;)

Can this someone not post for themself?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:05 pm
by ShrewLlamaLand
Wymondham wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
No salt this time (or at all, really), someone asked I make a post here. ;)

Can this someone not post for themself?

No, they specifically asked me to come here. Reasons unknown. And again, do I really have to say this again - CCD is not a fascist region.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:10 pm
by Jar Wattinree
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Xoriet wrote:A better comparison is XKI and TP when it comes to endorsement gains in recent times, as we were roughly the same around the time the Drewpocalypse started.

That's a terrible comparison. One is a UCR that has to actively recruit nations (or have a YouTuber do it for them). The other is a GCR that passively has new nations be created inside it.

See the difference?)

What even is the point of your posts in this thread? Are you that bored?

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:13 pm
by ShrewLlamaLand
Jar Wattinree wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:That's a terrible comparison. One is a UCR that has to actively recruit nations (or have a YouTuber do it for them). The other is a GCR that passively has new nations be created inside it.

See the difference?)

What even is the point of your posts in this thread? Are you that bored?

Are you this sensitive about your region? I'm only pointing out that NPO's rule has long caused TP to lag far behind the other Pacifics, and now it's been overtaken by a UCR.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:18 pm
by Xoriet
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:
Jar Wattinree wrote:What even is the point of your posts in this thread? Are you that bored?

Are you this sensitive about your region? I'm only pointing out that NPO's rule has long caused TP to lag far behind the other Pacifics, and now it's been overtaken by a UCR.

"Are you this sensitive about your region?"

Coming from a guy from CCD? That's pretty funny. No, it's actually more annoying because we use this thread for business, not to entertain people with nothing better to do than post here because someone asked them to.

PostPosted: Thu Apr 23, 2020 4:28 pm
by ShrewLlamaLand
Xoriet wrote:
ShrewLlamaLand wrote:Are you this sensitive about your region? I'm only pointing out that NPO's rule has long caused TP to lag far behind the other Pacifics, and now it's been overtaken by a UCR.

"Are you this sensitive about your region?"

Coming from a guy from CCD? That's pretty funny. No, it's actually more annoying because we use this thread for business, not to entertain people with nothing better to do than post here because someone asked them to.

I could say the same thing about the CCD thread and no one (including yourself) seems to mind.