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Postby The Church of Satan » Thu Aug 27, 2015 7:53 pm

There's never a "Like" button when you need it. Well said Kaz. :)
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Postby Todd McCloud » Thu Aug 27, 2015 8:41 pm

If you need a temporary writer, let me know. FPNS has been ignoring me a lil.
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Postby New Rogernomics » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:32 pm

Onderkelkia wrote:Whether or not it can obtain comments from all its desired sources has no bearing on its own higher responsibility to provide factual reporting.
I would apologize if you take issue with this article, but ultimately it is up to individual contributors, where the editor/s cannot confirm the factual accuracy or objectivity of an article.

While I might agree or disagree with an article, at the same time it isn't the place of those who edit the Lazarene Gazette to stifle the speech or expression of contributors, unless absolutely necessary.
Onderkelkia wrote:On the contrary, with articles like this, Lazarus is continuing with a persistent campaign from the FRA and its regions against LKE interests, beginning with the FRA invading our colony of United Kingdom of Britain in May 2010 (though one could go back even further to the events of December 2006).
The Lazarene Gazette is not 'campaigning' for anything or anyone, though obviously since Lazarus is aligned with the FRA or friendly and allied with defender groups, those that contribute aren't always going to be objective - given that disputes and disagreements exist.

Though, next issue regardless is going to be more related to issues internal to Lazarus, and not external events or actors.

That is if you are concerned that the current issue will set the type of content in issues after this one
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Postby New Rogernomics » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:38 pm

Valrifell wrote:Everything is so off center! I can't even read the articles with the freaking heading off center, real newspapers center their headlines and headings...

*grumbles quietly in corner*
Not all newspapers center, many left align: http://www.lemonde.fr/

Though criticism taken on board.
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Plenty of room for opinion pieces (for non-Lazarenes), though the policy is to only accept citizens as permanent editors or contributors.

So in a straight answer, sure. ;)
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:45 pm

New Rogernomics wrote:
Valrifell wrote:Everything is so off center! I can't even read the articles with the freaking heading off center, real newspapers center their headlines and headings...

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Not all newspapers center, many left align: http://www.lemonde.fr/


I still think it looks off, here at least.
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Postby New Rogernomics » Thu Aug 27, 2015 9:51 pm

Valrifell wrote:
New Rogernomics wrote:Not all newspapers center, many left align: http://www.lemonde.fr/


I still think it looks off, here at least.
If you are talking about the header and logo being slightly to the right that would be the transparency, which might need a cropping next time.
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Postby Sedgistan » Fri Aug 28, 2015 2:46 am

No-one's touched on the most offensive part of the issue yet, which is the suggestion that The Verve were one-hit wonders. One album-wonders, maybe, but The Drugs Don't Work (#1) and Lucky Man (#7) were both high-charting singles, in the UK at least. Your writers need to listen to Urban Hymns, and then I'll expect an apology from the Editor!
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Postby Onderkelkia » Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:59 am

Being compared to TRT - the quality of which was by no means consistent, as confirmed by the constant inaccuracies - is no compliment.

New Rogernomics wrote:
Onderkelkia wrote:On the contrary, with articles like this, Lazarus is continuing with a persistent campaign from the FRA and its regions against LKE interests, beginning with the FRA invading our colony of United Kingdom of Britain in May 2010 (though one could go back even further to the events of December 2006).
The Lazarene Gazette is not 'campaigning' for anything or anyone, though obviously since Lazarus is aligned with the FRA or friendly and allied with defender groups, those that contribute aren't always going to be objective - given that disputes and disagreements exist.

The Lazarene Gazette is the propaganda machine of an FRA region and in publishing tracts like this against the LKE - an article which has nothing to do with the wider ideological disputes - it's following a pattern of the FRA systematically undermining LKE interests, whether or not that is orchestrated.
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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:06 am

Sedgistan wrote:No-one's touched on the most offensive part of the issue yet, which is the suggestion that The Verve were one-hit wonders. One album-wonders, maybe, but The Drugs Don't Work (#1) and Lucky Man (#7) were both high-charting singles, in the UK at least. Your writers need to listen to Urban Hymns, and then I'll expect an apology from the Editor!

Finally! Someone is addressing the real issues. There were multiple non one hit wonders that somehow made it into the contest. The Verve unfortunately met their Closing Time against Semisonic in their Semifinal bout. Its also looking like The Eye Of The Tiger is going to be the Survivor of its battle with Come On Eileen.

I wonder if I should make the final round a regional poll rather than host the vote on the forum? The Semifinal round for some reason did not have very many votes cast in it...

Also, the editor is not the one who should apologize. The Gazette was simply reporting the results of an ongoing regional competition. YOU should apologize for not having an account on the Lazarene forum and thus not suggesting true one hit wonders nor voting for your favorite songs.
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Postby Sedgistan » Fri Aug 28, 2015 6:24 am

Benevolent Thomas wrote:I wonder if I should make the final round a regional poll rather than host the vote on the forum? The Semifinal round for some reason did not have very many votes cast in it...

Codger votes yes (500 times over).

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Postby Zaolat » Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:27 am

Sedgistan wrote:
Benevolent Thomas wrote:I wonder if I should make the final round a regional poll rather than host the vote on the forum? The Semifinal round for some reason did not have very many votes cast in it...

Codger votes yes (500 times over).

Haha.
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Postby Ayvari » Fri Aug 28, 2015 7:44 am

Sedgistan wrote:
Benevolent Thomas wrote:I wonder if I should make the final round a regional poll rather than host the vote on the forum? The Semifinal round for some reason did not have very many votes cast in it...

Codger votes yes (500 times over).

Hail Codger (and his vote-influencing allies). o/
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Postby The Church of Satan » Fri Aug 28, 2015 12:33 pm

Onderkelkia wrote:Being compared to TRT - the quality of which was by no means consistent, as confirmed by the constant inaccuracies - is no compliment.

The Lazarene Gazette is the propaganda machine of an FRA region and in publishing tracts like this against the LKE - an article which has nothing to do with the wider ideological disputes - it's following a pattern of the FRA systematically undermining LKE interests, whether or not that is orchestrated.


Does that mean I can add "Propaganda Writer" to my list of writing skills? I never even thought my writing could be considered to be in the same category as Kazmr's works. :D

I'll write propaganda for The FRA anytime! :D

I wanted to see Bitter Sweet Symphony win the whole thing though!
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Postby Zaolat » Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:34 pm

Pfft. Hootie & The Blowfish should of won.
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Postby New Rogernomics » Fri Aug 28, 2015 3:31 pm

Sedgistan wrote:No-one's touched on the most offensive part of the issue yet, which is the suggestion that The Verve were one-hit wonders. One album-wonders, maybe, but The Drugs Don't Work (#1) and Lucky Man (#7) were both high-charting singles, in the UK at least. Your writers need to listen to Urban Hymns, and then I'll expect an apology from the Editor!
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Postby Glen-Rhodes » Sat Aug 29, 2015 9:07 am

Good luck on revitalizing Lazaus, Harmoneia! You were one of the few who oversaw the transition from the Emerald era. So I trust that Lazarus is in good hands. :)

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Postby Karputsk » Sat Aug 29, 2015 11:11 am

Sedgistan wrote:No-one's touched on the most offensive part of the issue yet, which is the suggestion that The Verve were one-hit wonders. One album-wonders, maybe, but The Drugs Don't Work (#1) and Lucky Man (#7) were both high-charting singles, in the UK at least. Your writers need to listen to Urban Hymns, and then I'll expect an apology from the Editor!

A colleague of mine at work genuinely put on Bittersweet Symphony on my phone while at work and then when The Drugs Don't Work came on asked which band this was.... :meh:
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Postby Okilly Dokily » Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:18 am

Sedgistan wrote:No-one's touched on the most offensive part of the issue yet, which is the suggestion that The Verve were one-hit wonders. One album-wonders, maybe, but The Drugs Don't Work (#1) and Lucky Man (#7) were both high-charting singles, in the UK at least. Your writers need to listen to Urban Hymns, and then I'll expect an apology from the Editor!

Eiffel 65 were a two hit wonder(move your body was the 2nd) while The Darkness(growing on me & Christmas time for example) and Goo Goo Dolls(mainly in the US) have a couple of songs each which did well.

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Postby Deadeye Jack » Sun Aug 30, 2015 9:47 am

Okilly Dokily wrote:
Sedgistan wrote:No-one's touched on the most offensive part of the issue yet, which is the suggestion that The Verve were one-hit wonders. One album-wonders, maybe, but The Drugs Don't Work (#1) and Lucky Man (#7) were both high-charting singles, in the UK at least. Your writers need to listen to Urban Hymns, and then I'll expect an apology from the Editor!

Eiffel 65 were a two hit wonder(move your body was the 2nd) while The Darkness(growing on me & Christmas time for example) and Goo Goo Dolls(mainly in the US) have a couple of songs each which did well.



Goo Goo Dolls definitely did not belong to the one hit wonder category. Eiffel 65 didn't have any commercial success outside of Blue so I don't think you can call them a two hit wonder I don't remember their other song that you mention. Although checking their charting singles it was highly thought of internationally but I think success in the US music market should be heavily weighted in these kinds of things which it didn't chart at all in. The Darkness I'm not well versed enough in their genre but I'd heard of their song in the tournament can't say the other two you mention ring any bells though.

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Postby Okilly Dokily » Sun Aug 30, 2015 10:45 am

Deadeye Jack wrote:Goo Goo Dolls definitely did not belong to the one hit wonder category. Eiffel 65 didn't have any commercial success outside of Blue so I don't think you can call them a two hit wonder I don't remember their other song that you mention. Although checking their charting singles it was highly thought of internationally but I think success in the US music market should be heavily weighted in these kinds of things which it didn't chart at all in. The Darkness I'm not well versed enough in their genre but I'd heard of their song in the tournament can't say the other two you mention ring any bells though.

You cant really say that because songs do well in one area but are non-exsistent in another should have a bearing on how something like this works, even though that seems to be how it happens. A true one hit wonder is having one very successful song anywhere with everything that follows doing terrible in comparisson(Babylon Zoo- Spaceman springs to mind). Just because an artist had one hit song in the US but had numerous hits everywhere else doesn't/shouldn't make them a one hit wonder.

Eiffel 65's Move Your Body was #1 in 3 countries and a top 10 in a few others in Europe and had numerous fairly successful singles in Italy. The Darkness' success is mainly in the UK and Ireland. I know that most people may only know one hughly successful song by an artist but if you region lock it(US success only as you suggest) then not only do you have very successful artists getting into the competition because they only had 1 success in the US but you also stop one hit wonders that never charted in the US but did in other countries from being considered. I can see why certain songs might not have been caught due to the countries people live in but for me a one hit wonder is having one successful song in at least 1 country and having no successful songs follow it anywhere.

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Postby Harmoneia » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:26 pm

Glen-Rhodes wrote:Good luck on revitalizing Lazaus, Harmoneia! You were one of the few who oversaw the transition from the Emerald era. So I trust that Lazarus is in good hands. :)

Wish all the best from TSP!

Late response as I don't check NSGP often, but thank you, GR. :)

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Postby Zaolat » Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:54 pm

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Glen-Rhodes wrote:Good luck on revitalizing Lazaus, Harmoneia! You were one of the few who oversaw the transition from the Emerald era. So I trust that Lazarus is in good hands. :)

Wish all the best from TSP!

Late response as I don't check NSGP often, but thank you, GR. :)

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Postby Pierconium » Tue Sep 01, 2015 11:44 pm

The writer of the article on The Pacific seems upset.

Here, have a tissue...

That aside, you have a fair number of factual errors in your article. While I am all for a good propaganda piece, they are most effective when you spin the actual facts instead of just making things up as you go.
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Postby Ikania » Wed Sep 02, 2015 12:08 am

Pierconium wrote:The writer of the article on The Pacific seems upset.

Here, have a tissue...

That aside, you have a fair number of factual errors in your article. While I am all for a good propaganda piece, they are most effective when you spin the actual facts instead of just making things up as you go.

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Postby Pierconium » Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:30 am

Ikania wrote:
Pierconium wrote:The writer of the article on The Pacific seems upset.

Here, have a tissue...

That aside, you have a fair number of factual errors in your article. While I am all for a good propaganda piece, they are most effective when you spin the actual facts instead of just making things up as you go.

Forgive me, O Emperor; I forgot that the New Pacific Order is obviously the most glorious of Empires, more active than any other regions, with the most benevolent and in-touch rulers who are in solidarity with the people. I will focus on bringing all attention and renown to the glorious NPO in the future.

Indeed. At least in your sarcasm you include the truth.
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