Vristic Thread - Absolute Ego

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

guy who thinks being authoritarian and conservative (per your own Sapply results) but ever so slightly left of centre economically is considered leftist in a one-dimensional spectrum

Not that authoritarian
Btw Stalin is also a leftist

You seem to forget that players in NS are not judged on what they say they are or what part of the political spectrum their nations lie on but on the actions they take. And in that case you have been found wanting.

[Fahran]

You’ll get warned for flaming at this rate. Insults are not acceptable, please to try to say them or the mods will come down on you, hard. I already saw a report thread.

While I can appreciate that you're attempting to be helpful, this post could be read as using "mods as weapons." The correct response to posts that violate the rules is to report those posts to Moderation. Please review the rules.

[Grenartia]

Actually I checked and it’s just not possible. Discord keeps the servers that someone is on private and no one can see them. Much less their messages.

One word: screenshots.

I, for one, would be interested in seeing these screenshots.

[Unogonduria]

Not that authoritarian
Btw Stalin is also a leftist

You seem to forget that players in NS are not judged on what they say they are or what part of the political spectrum their nations lie on but on the actions they take. And in that case you have been found wanting.

Wanting what?

[Moukden and Kirin]

I pity those who still click on this thread just to engage with people who let everything go in one ear and out the other with nothing in between to slow it down. Please, let it go the way their region did.

[Dilber]

I, for one, would be interested in seeing these screenshots.

I have messaged you on discord as I cannot and will not post slurs to the forum.

[Grenartia]

I, for one, would be interested in seeing these screenshots.

I have messaged you on discord as I cannot and will not post slurs to the forum.

For the benefit of others: I have seen at least some of the screenshots, and yeah, its not an ambiguous thing at all.

[Arcticfrost]

Bhang Bhang Duc, I had a question for you: Why do you hate Vrindi????

Guess what that’s all the explanation you’re going to get. I owe you and Rechol fuck all when it comes to this.

Now listen up, BBD!
Before the demise of Vristic, I had posted those words in my region’s RMB:

“Bhang Bhang Duc is watching our every move”

You had objected to it. And when you did, I provided clear, to-the-point explanation for writing the above.
This was an administrator of a much smaller and less influential region than yours. So, why are you—an administrator of a large, glorious region— shying from facing facts squarely? Why you shying from revealing what causes you to hate Vrindi? Stop throwing the fame of your region into dustbin by neglecting an issue that affects a collection of players, and give to-the-point answer to me: Why do you hate Vrindi?

[Bhang Bhang Duc]

Guess what that’s all the explanation you’re going to get. I owe you and Rechol fuck all when it comes to this.

Now listen up, BBD!
Before the demise of Vristic, I had posted those words in my region’s RMB:

“Bhang Bhang Duc is watching our every move”

You had objected to it. And when you did, I provided clear, to-the-point explanation for writing the above.
This was an administrator of a much smaller and less influential region than yours. So, why are you—an administrator of a large, glorious region— shying from facing facts squarely? Why you shying from revealing what causes you to hate Vrindi? Stop throwing the fame of your region into dustbin by neglecting an issue that affects a collection of players, and give to-the-point answer to me: Why do you hate Vrindi?

Oh gods another unsatisfied customer. You’ve read my quote but your comprehension of it is sorely lacking.

No explanation being given and if you don’t like it tough shit. Now off you go and fuck up another region.

[Yuzhnya]

If I may ask, and sorry if I‘m beating a dead horse, but what happened? I heard about Cawns discord comments, but what was the timeline of events that led to the raid?

[Lipizia]

If I may ask, and sorry if I‘m beating a dead horse, but what happened? I heard about Cawns discord comments, but what was the timeline of events that led to the raid?

Only this, and that someone thinks that Unogonduria is a fascist.

[Kshemarashtram]

Who said not? I meant that I really wonder that so much people would use their time so only for a whimmy delegate.
Obviously it's interesting, if it wasn't I wouldn't post here.

A superabundance of time is evidently a characteristic trait of all R/Ders! I can't fathom why the hell a person would be bothered enough to squander away elusive old Father Time just to monitor a region's usual update time, gather and coordinate with a horde of other people, ruminate over plans and backups, stumble to stare at the activity page before every update, all for a fucking old browser game! I am occupied elsewhere during both of the update times: one with sleep, and the other with studying. I can't be arsed to keep visiting the activity page during every update, as any Frontier must do to watch out for funny business before its too late. Even Vristic's ex-Delegate was inactive for a few days due to exams, and returned to a wreckage of a region.

Any sensible busy bloke would just be in a Stronghold, visit once in a while, have a few friends for company, and fulfill his impish proclivities on the forum instead.

Now listen up, BBD! [...] Why do you hate Vrindi?

As pointed out earlier, Bhang Bhang Duc is a proponent of excessive sucking up to Moderation, and hence dislikes Vrindi due to, among other things, his insufficient sucking up to Moderation. Just a little more sucking up would have instantly transmuted the hate into profound admiration.

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Yeah but it doesnt mean you have to raid the WHOLE region, I mean what did Articfrost do man, he did nothing

I can only wonder why so many people are engaging in this bootless attempt to seek some kind of morally justified "reason" behind the invasion, or worse, requesting the invaders to "return" the region. Do you believe this can possibly bear fruit? This foolish "R/D game" of NationStates somewhat aptly resembles the real world inasmuch as both run on the sophisticated(/s) philosophy of "might makes right". Destroying a region of ~150 members (most of whom had no knowledge of the RO's offsite conduct) due to the shameful behaviour of a couple of RO's is analogous to a country bombing a city of regular Joes due to the actions of their leaders. It's an unscrupulous thing to do, and behind all the pompous "justifications" provided, the underlying reason is mostly just "because we wanted to, and because we could". They don't care, and will stay unwavering in their action, so pleading and fawning with such an entity is obviously going to be futile.

Countries, both real and virtual, should look to strengthen their various facets rather than relying on the "morality" of their attackers. While of course this is very difficult for a real country, for a virtual country not so much. But requesting your invaders to have mercy and "return" your region is invariably a foolish strategy.

[Lipizia]

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I was wandering "why so much people", not "why so much time".
Anyway, it's true saying that this is similar to the real world. In this case, the story of Trump, that is actually almigthy.

[Arcticfrost]

Who said not? I meant that I really wonder that so much people would use their time so only for a whimmy delegate.
Obviously it's interesting, if it wasn't I wouldn't post here.

A superabundance of time is evidently a characteristic trait of all R/Ders! I can't fathom why the hell a person would be bothered enough to squander away elusive old Father Time just to monitor a region's usual update time, gather and coordinate with a horde of other people, ruminate over plans and backups, stumble to stare at the activity page before every update, all for a fucking old browser game! I am occupied elsewhere during both of the update times: one with sleep, and the other with studying. I can't be arsed to keep visiting the activity page during every update, as any Frontier must do to watch out for funny business before its too late. Even Vristic's ex-Delegate was inactive for a few days due to exams, and returned to a wreckage of a region.

Any sensible busy bloke would just be in a Stronghold, visit once in a while, have a few friends for company, and fulfill his impish proclivities on the forum instead.

Now listen up, BBD! [...] Why do you hate Vrindi?

As pointed out earlier, Bhang Bhang Duc is a proponent of excessive sucking up to Moderation, and hence dislikes Vrindi due to, among other things, his insufficient sucking up to Moderation. Just a little more sucking up would have instantly transmuted the hate into profound admiration.

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Yeah but it doesnt mean you have to raid the WHOLE region, I mean what did Articfrost do man, he did nothing

I can only wonder why so many people are engaging in this bootless attempt to seek some kind of morally justified "reason" behind the invasion, or worse, requesting the invaders to "return" the region. Do you believe this can possibly bear fruit? This foolish "R/D game" of NationStates somewhat aptly resembles the real world inasmuch as both run on the sophisticated(/s) philosophy of "might makes right". Destroying a region of ~150 members (most of whom had no knowledge of the RO's offsite conduct) due to the shameful behaviour of a couple of RO's is analogous to a country bombing a city of regular Joes due to the actions of their leaders. It's an unscrupulous thing to do, and behind all the pompous "justifications" provided, the underlying reason is mostly just "because we wanted to, and because we could". They don't care, and will stay unwavering in their action, so pleading and fawning with such an entity is obviously going to be futile.

Countries, both real and virtual, should look to strengthen their various facets rather than relying on the "morality" of their attackers. While of course this is very difficult for a real country, for a virtual country not so much. But requesting your invaders to have mercy and "return" your region is invariably a foolish strategy.

asking them to free Vristic is not in mainstream anymore, as seen in a Rechol's post.

finally, thank you for providing the answer that BBD should've provided

[Lipizia]

finally, thank you for providing the answer that BBD should've provided

I think he joked actually, in the spoiler he had the "rofl" emoticon

[Eltran Space Force]

The West Pacific uses pirate flags on their puppets. Do you see any of the occupying forces using pirate flags?

Y'all see BBD behind every post, but the truth is he had nothing to do with this occupation. It really is Starlight and Talonia. He's telling the truth

[Kshemarashtram]

The West Pacific uses pirate flags on their puppets. Do you see any of the occupying forces using pirate flags?

Y'all see BBD behind every post, but the truth is he had nothing to do with this occupation. It really is Starlight and Talonia. He's telling the truth

If that was directed at me, I must clarify that I'm not accusing BBD of the raid, but I'm just ribbing, which is good if he enjoys it, and if he doesn't, better!

finally, thank you for providing the answer that BBD should've provided

I think he joked actually, in the spoiler he had the "rofl" emoticon

Yeah, that particular segment wasn't a serious answer lol.

[Eltran Space Force]

The West Pacific uses pirate flags on their puppets. Do you see any of the occupying forces using pirate flags?

Y'all see BBD behind every post, but the truth is he had nothing to do with this occupation. It really is Starlight and Talonia. He's telling the truth

If that was directed at me, I must clarify that I'm not accusing BBD of the raid, but I'm just ribbing, which is good if he enjoys it, and if he doesn't, better!

It's aimed at the thread in general. People keep bringing up BBD and Vrindi. I'm worried that folks might read it and learn the wrong lesson.

Vristic wasn't raided because of BBD. Vristic wasn't raided because of Vrindi. Vristic was raided because of Cawn.

[East Chimore]

A superabundance of time is evidently a characteristic trait of all R/Ders! I can't fathom why the hell a person would be bothered enough to squander away elusive old Father Time just to monitor a region's usual update time, gather and coordinate with a horde of other people, ruminate over plans and backups, stumble to stare at the activity page before every update, all for a fucking old browser game!

Coordinating a raid really isn't all that. It takes like 5 minutes max to set up tools to automate triggers for jumping on your target, and one ping to your trusted updaters to get em ready to rumble - and then you get the bonus of spending time with friends, usually shitposting and memeing until jump time.

[Omnicontrol]

A superabundance of time is evidently a characteristic trait of all R/Ders! I can't fathom why the hell a person would be bothered enough to squander away elusive old Father Time just to monitor a region's usual update time, gather and coordinate with a horde of other people, ruminate over plans and backups, stumble to stare at the activity page before every update, all for a fucking old browser game!

Coordinating a raid really isn't all that. It takes like 5 minutes max to set up tools to automate triggers for jumping on your target, and one ping to your trusted updaters to get em ready to rumble - and then you get the bonus of spending time with friends, usually shitposting and memeing until jump time.

Sometimes even during jump time >_>

[Kshemarashtram]

A superabundance of time is evidently a characteristic trait of all R/Ders! I can't fathom why the hell a person would be bothered enough to squander away elusive old Father Time just to monitor a region's usual update time, gather and coordinate with a horde of other people, ruminate over plans and backups, stumble to stare at the activity page before every update, all for a fucking old browser game!

Coordinating a raid really isn't all that. It takes like 5 minutes max to set up tools to automate triggers for jumping on your target, and one ping to your trusted updaters to get em ready to rumble - and then you get the bonus of spending time with friends, usually shitposting and memeing until jump time.

Well, what about the Frontier natives? They'd have to keep an eye on their activity page during every update. If they only happen to check later, it may be too late. But it's possible they may be sleeping or working or something else during update time.

[Mammoth Cave]

Who said not? I meant that I really wonder that so much people would use their time so only for a whimmy delegate.
Obviously it's interesting, if it wasn't I wouldn't post here.

A superabundance of time is evidently a characteristic trait of all R/Ders! I can't fathom why the hell a person would be bothered enough to squander away elusive old Father Time just to monitor a region's usual update time, gather and coordinate with a horde of other people, ruminate over plans and backups, stumble to stare at the activity page before every update, all for a fucking old browser game! I am occupied elsewhere during both of the update times: one with sleep, and the other with studying. I can't be arsed to keep visiting the activity page during every update, as any Frontier must do to watch out for funny business before its too late. Even Vristic's ex-Delegate was inactive for a few days due to exams, and returned to a wreckage of a region.

The "I'm too good to be good at this game" defense. Always plays well.

Any sensible busy bloke would just be in a Stronghold, visit once in a while, have a few friends for company, and fulfill his impish proclivities on the forum instead.[/url]

Please don't tell us about your impish proclivities.

Yeah but it doesnt mean you have to raid the WHOLE region, I mean what did Articfrost do man, he did nothing

I can only wonder why so many people are engaging in this bootless attempt to seek some kind of morally justified "reason" behind the invasion, or worse, requesting the invaders to "return" the region. Do you believe this can possibly bear fruit? This foolish "R/D game" of NationStates somewhat aptly resembles the real world inasmuch as both run on the sophisticated(/s) philosophy of "might makes right". Destroying a region of ~150 members (most of whom had no knowledge of the RO's offsite conduct) due to the shameful behaviour of a couple of RO's is analogous to a country bombing a city of regular Joes due to the actions of their leaders. It's an unscrupulous thing to do, and behind all the pompous "justifications" provided, the underlying reason is mostly just "because we wanted to, and because we could". They don't care, and will stay unwavering in their action, so pleading and fawning with such an entity is obviously going to be futile.

Countries, both real and virtual, should look to strengthen their various facets rather than relying on the "morality" of their attackers. While of course this is very difficult for a real country, for a virtual country not so much. But requesting your invaders to have mercy and "return" your region is invariably a foolish strategy.

I understand that "difference-in-kind" and "difference-in-degree" are too, well, different things, but if Starlight/Horizon and Talonia's behavior is comparable to a real world atrocity, report Kirin to the Hague.

Coordinating a raid really isn't all that. It takes like 5 minutes max to set up tools to automate triggers for jumping on your target, and one ping to your trusted updaters to get em ready to rumble - and then you get the bonus of spending time with friends, usually shitposting and memeing until jump time.

Well, what about the Frontier natives? They'd have to keep an eye on their activity page during every update. If they only happen to check later, it may be too late. But it's possible they may be sleeping or working or something else during update time.

Correct.

[East Chimore]

Coordinating a raid really isn't all that. It takes like 5 minutes max to set up tools to automate triggers for jumping on your target, and one ping to your trusted updaters to get em ready to rumble - and then you get the bonus of spending time with friends, usually shitposting and memeing until jump time.

:shock:
Well, what about the Frontier natives? They'd have to keep an eye on their activity page during every update. If they only happen to check later, it may be too late. But it's possible they may be sleeping or working or something else during update time.

If the Frontier didn't want to risk being raided, they wouldn't be a Frontier. There are these wonderful things called Strongholds, you should check em out

[Kshemarashtram]

There are these wonderful things called Strongholds, you should check em out

I happen to be the Governor of one

The "I'm too good to be good at this game" defense. Always plays well.

I admit I'll never be as good at this game as you all!
Can only be good at a handful of things after all

I understand that "difference-in-kind" and "difference-in-degree" are too, well, different things, but if Starlight/Horizon and Talonia's behavior is comparable to a real world atrocity, report Kirin to the Hague.

Ah, I guess I got a bit solemn there thinking of real-world atrocities. Not that the Hague might've accomplished much though...

I hope I'm not threadjacking by just tangentially relating to Vristic, but in my defense, the discussion on Vristic is mostly done and dusted anyway

[Mammoth Cave]

The "I'm too good to be good at this game" defense. Always plays well.

I admit I'll never be as good at this game as you all!
Can only be good at a handful of things after all
:

You might've missed my point.

Most players find this attitude of "you all are only good at this game, because unlike me, you're sad losers who waste their time playing internet games" condescending and insecure.

A superabundance of time is evidently a characteristic trait of all R/Ders! I can't fathom why the hell a person would be bothered enough to squander away elusive old Father Time just to monitor a region's usual update time, gather and coordinate with a horde of other people, ruminate over plans and backups, stumble to stare at the activity page before every update, all for a fucking old browser game!

The question I have then is, "if this is a waste of your time, why are you here?".