The League & Concord | Consulate Appointments

[Quebecshire]

LOL

What did he mean by this?

[Angeloid Astraea]

TWP LEFT THE MGC?!

Thank you Quebecshire, very cool!

[Reventus Koth]

LOL

What did he mean by this?

chat is this real

I can't believe this is how I learned that TWP also left the MGC. This is just really fucking funny news man, I'll give you a more earnest read after I actually parse it

[The Ambis]

departure of the New Pacific Order and the West Pacific

We just gonna… ignore that bit?

Edit: GODDAMN IT NINJA’D x2

[Ostrovskiy]

Hold up, TWP also left the MGC?

Why does no one do announcements round these parts?

[Varanius]

TWP LEFT THE MGC?!

Yes, the day after the NPO

[Angeloid Astraea]

TWP LEFT THE MGC?!

Yes, the day after the NPO

Are you still in the PPO?

[Kazaman]

Welcome aboard, officially! Looking forward to working with The League in the MGC.

[Varanius]

Yes, the day after the NPO

Are you still in the PPO?

Yes. I’ll redirect you to our treaty index for any further questions on our official list of obligations.

As a note for the apparently concerned masses, we fully intend on abiding by the previously agreed to sanctions laid out by the MGC while we were members.

[The Ambis]

They are!

[Angeloid Astraea]

Are you still in the PPO?

Yes. I’ll redirect you to our treaty index for any further questions on our official list of obligations.

Oh, thank you! I thought asking here was appropriate, since The League's thread is now the place to go for news about The West Pacific's membership status. =P

As a note for the apparently concerned masses, we fully intend on abiding by the previously agreed to sanctions laid out by the MGC while we were members.

Abiding by the sanctions of a compact you quit is interesting, but okay!

[Reventus Koth]

Why does no one do announcements round these parts?

One of the things we can actually still rely on The League to be on top of, even if nobody else is. Something tells me that its newest member just became its most vocal representative.

Our immediate priorities upon getting settled in this organization are a brief amendment to the preamble of the agreement as discussed during ascension negotiations, which will explicitly recognize the membership of both Independent and defender regions as a part of the MGC, and the formal affirmation of Concord as a protected signatory Frontier.

This is actually pretty intriguing to me. If you don't mind me asking, can you clarify two things for me?

1. Do you think that the MGC has fundamentally changed from its original goal of "fostering an independent spirit that is based on rejecting the ideological dogma of traditional gameplay dichotomy" by embracing whole-hog defender regions? And that's a step in the right direction in your opinion?

2. Why is Concord not legally recognized as a member state already? It stands to reason that they would be, given that The League & Concord are a package deal (see: "The League & Concord | Regarding the MGC") and do not have separate governments. If it's just legal mumbo jumbo, you can say so, I'm just curious.

[Thorn1000]

bAs a note for the apparently concerned masses, we fully intend on abiding by the previously agreed to sanctions laid out by the MGC while we were members.

I look forward to them being as effective as they were when you were in the MGC

[Bootyswana]

Why does no one do announcements round these parts?

One of the things we can actually still rely on The League to be on top of, even if nobody else is. Something tells me that its newest member just became its most vocal representative.

Our immediate priorities upon getting settled in this organization are a brief amendment to the preamble of the agreement as discussed during ascension negotiations, which will explicitly recognize the membership of both Independent and defender regions as a part of the MGC, and the formal affirmation of Concord as a protected signatory Frontier.

This is actually pretty intriguing to me. If you don't mind me asking, can you clarify two things for me?

1. Do you think that the MGC has fundamentally changed from its original goal of "fostering an independent spirit that is based on rejecting the ideological dogma of traditional gameplay dichotomy" by embracing whole-hog defender regions? And that's a step in the right direction in your opinion?

2. Why is Concord not legally recognized as a member state already? It stands to reason that they would be, given that The League & Concord are a package deal (see: "The League & Concord | Regarding the MGC") and do not have separate governments. If it's just legal mumbo jumbo, you can say so, I'm just curious.

In response to question 2, in similar interregional treaties, concord is treated as a separate region under our “protection”, so I don’t see why it’d be different in this one. (Please correct me if I’m wrong.)

[Soviet Kittystan]

The New Pacific Order and The West Pacific have freed themselves from the chains of false independence! The cubs dance in the streets and the great philosopher wolves clink their glasses together, for the great Europeian devourer has found a mouthful it cannot swallow. The defenders are as chickens, locked in a henhouse with a merciless fox that will destroy them for entertainment. Will they wake up in time? Or will we one day discover a cage full of feathers and a short presidential statement that rejects all wrongdoing?

[Chaotic Sparkles]

snip

BIG IF TRUE

[Wascoitan]

(Image)

The New Pacific Order and The West Pacific have freed themselves from the chains of false independence! The cubs dance in the streets and the great philosopher wolves clink their glasses together, for the great Europeian devourer has found a mouthful it cannot swallow. The defenders are as chickens, locked in a henhouse with a merciless fox that will destroy them for entertainment. Will they wake up in time? Or will we one day discover a cage full of feathers and a short presidential statement that rejects all wrongdoing?

only response needed in this thread tbh

[Drop Your Pants]

BIG IF TRUE

only response needed in this thread tbh

Shining examples of why regions shouldn't bother making GP announcements. Gone is the wit and elegance of GP, now it's just a 'hahaha that funny' stream of comments (note: i'm not talking about the actual post they're referencing, that was a good attempt minus the image. And wolves in the henhouse would have been better for the LWU reference).

Edit: Could have gone with a Malicious Wolf too for the double.

[Angeloid Astraea]

BIG IF TRUE

only response needed in this thread tbh

Shining examples of why regions shouldn't bother making GP announcements. Gone is the wit and elegance of GP, now it's just a 'hahaha that funny' stream of comments (note: i'm not talking about the actual post they're referencing, that was a good attempt minus the image. And wolves in the henhouse would have been better for the LWU reference).

Edit: Could have gone with a Malicious Wolf too for the double.

BIG IF TRUE

[Soviet Kittystan]

And wolves in the henhouse would have been better for the LWU reference).

Edit: Could have gone with a Malicious Wolf too for the double.

It would be disgusting and dishonourable to suggest that Europeia had wolfish characteristics.

[Wascoitan]

BIG IF TRUE

only response needed in this thread tbh

Shining examples of why regions shouldn't bother making GP announcements. Gone is the wit and elegance of GP, now it's just a 'hahaha that funny' stream of comments (note: i'm not talking about the actual post they're referencing, that was a good attempt minus the image. And wolves in the henhouse would have been better for the LWU reference).

Edit: Could have gone with a Malicious Wolf too for the double.

if you want an actual point then I'll say that I'm glad that fake independent regions are finally not pretending that they actually give a damn about r/d extremeism by openly embracing a region that I believe would quite proudly describe itself as defender extremeist. or pretending that they can actually fend (no pun intended) for themselves in the modern GP environment (literally the entire point of the MGC) and are now even more openly embracing being on defenderdoms leash, but frankly that's just too much effort and I touch too much grass these days to get into actual forum arguments.

[The United Vex Imperium]

(Image)

The New Pacific Order and The West Pacific have freed themselves from the chains of false independence! The cubs dance in the streets and the great philosopher wolves clink their glasses together, for the great Europeian devourer has found a mouthful it cannot swallow. The defenders are as chickens, locked in a henhouse with a merciless fox that will destroy them for entertainment. Will they wake up in time? Or will we one day discover a cage full of feathers and a short presidential statement that rejects all wrongdoing?

i cant even hate bro this is some quality posting. we need more of this quality on the forums.

[Quebecshire]

Welcome aboard, officially! Looking forward to working with The League in the MGC.

Fram!

Hold up, TWP also left the MGC?

Why does no one do announcements round these parts?

On the one hand I can see it being frustrating/odd to some, but on the other, a lot of regions don't feel super obligated to flash some things around. For example, the PfS did not announce the expulsion of Philippines that was finalized on October 6th, as to not draw them unwanted attention (womp womp on that, though). I also don't believe TRR nor TL&C publicly announced anything about the ending of that bilateral.

Abiding by the sanctions of a compact you quit is interesting, but okay!

The sanctions are not legal constraints nor limited to signing members of the MGC. For example, Lazarus committed to them in the WA sense after the invasion of the North. Prior to signing we were broadly supportive as well in a de facto sense, given our position on invader groups and individuals.

I look forward to them being as effective as they were when you were in the MGC

To me it's less about having them accomplish some vague efficiency quota and more about making it clear that if you are a hostile actor to our community, we won't support your rewards in the WA, or invite you into our server to play io games.

In response to question 2, in similar interregional treaties, concord is treated as a separate region under our “protection”, so I don’t see why it’d be different in this one. (Please correct me if I’m wrong.)

Regarding this, Bootyswana is correct. Most treaties (especially holdovers from pre-F/S eras) are build as region-region, not for multi-region government systems, so legally speaking Concord is usually considered "integrated territory" for treaties despite equal status to The League in domestic law. It was the same with Aegis, we just made it clear during ascension negotiations that our first move upon joining would be sorting the matter via such protection processes.

[Halsoni]

fake independent regions

Unhinged take.

[Varanius]

bAs a note for the apparently concerned masses, we fully intend on abiding by the previously agreed to sanctions laid out by the MGC while we were members.

I look forward to them being as effective as they were when you were in the MGC

More effective than the team you have as your flag was yesterday