The League & Concord | Consulate Appointments

[RiderSyl]

i can’t read anything more than a couple lines of text without significant effort these days thanks to a worsening strabismus.

Sorry to hear that W&S I hope it gets better, and if that's not possible, I hope it doesn't get any worse. <3

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Look, if two of your guys need to publicly ask for people to stop making the new FA guy do their job, you might need to admit they're not ready for the big leagues. For as much as defenders like to bash on TBH FA, in the last few posts even, you never see us asking for a handicap. Imagine how you'd react if we did. Go ahead, imagine it.

With all due respect, you guys totally tried to play off Miravana's FA missteps as 'innocence via ignorance'. Just because you're back around to keep TBH FA in line doesn't mean y'all don't have a track record of moving goalposts.

Sorry, are we keeping things in line, or are we relics and liabilities? I'm getting confused again.

[Witchcraft and Sorcery]

nope, and i didn’t read the rest of your response here either. i can’t read anything more than a couple lines of text without significant effort these days thanks to a worsening strabismus. so thank you for separating this out so i could snipe it.

I have little patience (or ability) for trying to decipher that which I can already guess. and your playbook hasn’t changed in years, dude.

get unpredictable and maybe ill consider spending more effort. hell, you could quit raiding and find a better way to spend your time than kicking people’s sandcastles and blaming it on the people trying to stop you. just an idea idk.

Well, if you want to insist that you're really, 100%, absolutely sticking your fingers in your ears and going "la la la I can't hear you," and just "sniping" lazily and telling me to quit, so be it. Not sure how pointedly refusing to defend your own plentiful lines of writing helps you argue your case, though.

I’m trying to kick old habits. best you do the same

i can’t read anything more than a couple lines of text without significant effort these days thanks to a worsening strabismus.

Sorry to hear that W&S I hope it gets better, and if that's not possible, I hope it doesn't get any worse. <3

thanks - i hope to finally get some answers this summer. been a struggle and already one surgery. this time i see double horizontally instead of vertically

[Tim]

With all due respect, you guys totally tried to play off Miravana's FA missteps as 'innocence via ignorance'. Just because you're back around to keep TBH FA in line doesn't mean y'all don't have a track record of moving goalposts.

Sorry, are we keeping things in line, or are we relics and liabilities? I'm getting confused again.

That was a singular 'you' referring to Koth. You weren't being referred to.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Sorry, are we keeping things in line, or are we relics and liabilities? I'm getting confused again.

That was a singular 'you' referring to Koth. You weren't being referred to.

Sorry, didn't realize "you guys" is singular these days.

[Quebecshire]

Is this still going on? Gonna need a cup of coffee.

Verbal cage matches aside, getting back on topic, I have the utmost confidence in Tirol and am super excited to see him take on a new role on the community.

[Archdeacon]

Is this still going on? Gonna need a cup of coffee.

Verbal cage matches aside, getting back on topic, I have the utmost confidence in Tirol and am super excited to see him take on a new role on the community.

That makes two of us! I love Tirol and can’t wait to see where he’ll take your region.

I’ve always been a big supporter of your region behind the scenes, and can’t wait to see how big The League will grow.

[Sincluda]

Congrats and good luck to Tirol!

[Apatosaurus]

Is this still going on? Gonna need a cup of coffee.

Verbal cage matches aside, getting back on topic, I have the utmost confidence in Tirol and am super excited to see him take on a new role on the community.

That makes two of us! I love Tirol and can’t wait to see where he’ll take your region. :hug:

I’ve always been a big supporter of your region behind the scenes, and can’t wait to see how big The League will grow.

Hi puet

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Is this still going on? Gonna need a cup of coffee.

Verbal cage matches aside, getting back on topic, I have the utmost confidence in Tirol and am super excited to see him take on a new role on the community.

I don't know, is it? Maybe Tirol will let us know themselves, given all the confidence in them =)

Would you like a broom to help sweep this away, or would you prefer I find a few more people to just leave "rah rah!" comments?

[Spode Humbled Minions]

Your region's 'support' is not wanted, needed, nor welcome.

[Layem]

So happy to see the league back in action! Much Love from Layem! Good luck! #bashthefash

[Quebecshire]

I don't know, is it? Maybe Tirol will let us know themselves, given all the confidence in them =)

Would you like a broom to help sweep this away, or would you prefer I find a few more people to just leave "rah rah!" comments?

Unsure what he needs to let you know, but maybe I'm just missing it. I'll pass on the broom, the floor and rug both look quite clean over here.

[Astrobolt]

Congratulations to Tirol on the new position!

[Indusse]

Congratulations and Good Luck to Tirol!

[Altys]

All the talk about old blood Independents, "sanitized raiding," "disastrous foreign policy," etc really ring hollow, however, when those old Capital "I" Independents are off openly and proudly admitting:

When viewed together, these actions seem to suggest that raiders believe that they no longer need Independents. When we (meaning Europeia and regions ideologically similar) participate in a hold, the actions taken against the target region are limited to what is allowed per our guidelines. In that way, regardless of who selected the target or took point, we are in control. When raiders don’t need us, as they seem to be demonstrating with these moves, we’ve lost control.

“The ultimate objective of an Independent region’s diplomacy is to maximize utility for the region, as defined by the regional interests.”

It is clearly not in Europeia’s best interests for raiders to be so self-sufficient as to not need us at all.

Souls, you've quoted an opinion published in a private media. I couldn't care less about the above bickering but I doubt you can prove your point with a one-person take.

ps: Congrats to Tiro!

[Cristo Verde]

All the talk about old blood Independents, "sanitized raiding," "disastrous foreign policy," etc really ring hollow, however, when those old Capital "I" Independents are off openly and proudly admitting:

Souls, you've quoted an opinion published in a private media. I couldn't care less about the above bickering but I doubt you can prove your point with a one-person take.

ps: Congrats to Tiro!

...One with extensive comments from plenty of notable figures agreeing, and none taking issue with what I'd sure think would be a fairly notable and objectionable line if it wasn't correct.

But that's probably drifting from the topic of this thread a little too far.

[Altys]

You are reducing the Independent/non-aligned regions to only the handful of people that commented on the article. I don't see the leaders of all those regions over there. Let alone even any of them speacking in an official manner on the topic.


You lot really have that urge to generalise specific cases, especially when your narrative demands. Souls, you've quoted an opinion published in a private media. I couldn't care less about the above bickering but I doubt you can prove your point with a one-person take.

ps: Congrats to Tiro!

...One with extensive comments from plenty of notable figures agreeing, and none taking issue with what I'd sure think would be a fairly notable and objectionable line if it wasn't correct.

But that's probably drifting from the topic of this thread a little too far.

"Plenty" is hyperbolic. At best.

You are reducing the Independent/non-aligned regions to only the handful of people that commented under the article. I don't see the leaders of all those regions over there. Let alone even any of them speaking in an official manner on the topic.

You lot really have that urge to generalise specific cases. It's as if the narrative needed it.

[The Tirol Region]

I'd like to thank all those who've congratulated my selection as DoFA. As to the raiders who've decided to attempt to stir the pot, I'm not interested in engaging with raiders and don't see how this is productive for either of us. Independent and non-aligned regions are more than capable of coming to me or Quebec directly if they're concerned by any statements and we can reach a sensible accords rather than accepting raiders as some kind of fake envoy.

ps don't try and bait our FA director into saying TCB is a raider region in his first few hours in the job

Look, if two of your guys need to publicly ask for people to stop making the new FA guy do their job, you might need to admit they're not ready for the big leagues. For as much as defenders like to bash on TBH FA, in the last few posts even, you never see us asking for a handicap. Imagine how you'd react if we did. Go ahead, imagine it.

On this, I apologise most sincerely for being European and having duties besides NationStates that I had to see to. No-one's asking for a handicap, just for you to stop flogging the same dead horse, there is a differentiation between raiders and independents, clearly we are not decrying independents. We are committed to our treaties and agreements but that doesn't prevent us from engaging in legitimate discourse and to make a case for defending, that's hardly novel nor surprising.

[Diviciacus]

Hey, best of luck Tirol. FA is a tough job at points but I'm sure you'll have it in the bag bud. Let me know if I can do anything for ya!

o7

[Witchcraft and Sorcery]

holy shit tirol you’ve already won me over.

that’s the type of thing we like to see from our defender FA ppl. we will watch your career with great interest.

congrats again (idk if I said it in my first post, i may have been too hacked off at the raider buffoonery in this thread) and i wish you nothing but growth, prosperity, and many many more based moments of roasting raiders.

[Matthew the Man]

My confidence in Tirol was high and I'm glad to see that it was placed well.

[Affray]

Your region's 'support' is not wanted, needed, nor welcome.

Good one! Always the jokester.

Glad to be a friend of The League; so happy to see our hard work come to fruition!

[RiderSyl]

Good one! Always the jokester.

Glad to be a friend of The League; so happy to see our hard work come to fruition!

look, i don't know what it was like in the alternate reality you just came from, but in this one, The League has nothing to do with you or your region.

[Xoriet]

Your region's 'support' is not wanted, needed, nor welcome.

Good one! Always the jokester.

Glad to be a friend of The League; so happy to see our hard work come to fruition!

Can you really not? Of all the people hostile to you guys, TL isn’t even the top of the list. This is as unnecessary as that insult you lobbed at Quebec in NSGP last year. Just give it a rest and leave them alone, Puet.