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Postby New Agraces » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:48 am

Pilipinas and Malaya wrote:Please, for the sake of NSGP’s traces of sanity, please create another flag that has a good colour scheme. And disguise your puppets better. You also need WA members to snatch delegate positions which hold the executive powers.

If my puppets aren't disguised well, send me a telegram with the name of the puppet and the region where it is.
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Postby Konolas » Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:59 am

New Agraces wrote:
Pilipinas and Malaya wrote:Please, for the sake of NSGP’s traces of sanity, please create another flag that has a good colour scheme. And disguise your puppets better. You also need WA members to snatch delegate positions which hold the executive powers.

If my puppets aren't disguised well, send me a telegram with the name of the puppet and the region where it is.

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Postby Conquerus » Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:22 am

siht sseug reven lliw sadnef si sredurtni fo drowssap eht
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Postby Konolas » Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:33 am

Conquerus wrote:siht sseug reven lliw sadnef si sredurtni fo drowssap eht

:roll: rediar eht diar ot emiT
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Postby Marxist Germany » Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:03 am

Konolas wrote:
Conquerus wrote:siht sseug reven lliw sadnef si sredurtni fo drowssap eht

:roll: rediar eht diar ot emiT

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Postby Konolas » Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:20 am

Marxist Germany wrote:
Konolas wrote: :roll: rediar eht diar ot emiT

25 minutes ago: The Intruder of New Agraces changed the regional password.
26 minutes ago: The Intruder of New Agraces changed the regional password.

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Postby Conquerus » Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:23 am

Konolas wrote:
Marxist Germany wrote:

God damnit

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Postby New Agraces » Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:44 pm

The raid failed, my puppet got banjected.
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Postby Jebslund » Fri Nov 08, 2019 10:58 pm

New Agraces wrote:The raid failed, my puppet got banjected.

Leaving aside that you're about as opaque as optic glass in your tactics, try not announcing your targets in your thread, mate. Bragging before you've taken over the region is how you keep getting banjected and failing raids.
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Postby New Agraces » Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:40 am

Jebslund wrote:
New Agraces wrote:The raid failed, my puppet got banjected.

Leaving aside that you're about as opaque as optic glass in your tactics, try not announcing your targets in your thread, mate. Bragging before you've taken over the region is how you keep getting banjected and failing raids.

I never said the region name.
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Postby Perruzio Veloce » Sat Nov 09, 2019 1:51 am

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Postby Pilipinas and Malaya » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:06 am

New Agraces wrote:
Jebslund wrote:Leaving aside that you're about as opaque as optic glass in your tactics, try not announcing your targets in your thread, mate. Bragging before you've taken over the region is how you keep getting banjected and failing raids.

I never said the region name.


Yes, but have you masked your puppets using a different flag? Have you also gotten WA members who can take the region effectively through delegacy?
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Postby Borovan entered the region as he » Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:52 pm

New Agraces wrote:The raid failed, my puppet got banjected.

Can't say the least bit surprised if u jump ten hours before update
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Postby East Meranopirus » Sat Nov 09, 2019 11:18 pm

Borovan entered the region as he wrote:
New Agraces wrote:The raid failed, my puppet got banjected.

Can't say the least bit surprised if u jump ten hours before update

I don't think they know what an update is.
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Postby United Calanworie » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:51 am

Why would I not be in the least bit surprised.

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Postby Perruzio Veloce » Sun Nov 10, 2019 2:58 pm

As everybody else has said, don't announce anything until you've actually taken and successfully completed a raid. That just opens you up to people who will defend the region against you. And make sure you ban them right at an update so that you can't be countered quickly enough. If you do it some time randomly before or after, it's just gonna be a lot lot harder. Just for the record, the minor update is at 12PM EST and the major is at 12AM EST.

It's nice to see new raider regions popping up but you gotta be smart. Don't count your chickens before they hatch. Don't declare victory when you haven't won yet. Check out other raider organizations for inspiration. And definitely don't let anybody get you down, whether here on the forums or elsewhere, provided that you aren't doing something against the rules.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=514486

Edit: btw don't bother with a dispatch of 'fendas' you've banned. Once you start doing more raids, that list will be way too big. And just for the record, you haven't successfully raided Free Ninjago Union so you can take that off your list.
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Postby New Agraces » Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:41 am

Perruzio Veloce wrote:As everybody else has said, don't announce anything until you've actually taken and successfully completed a raid. That just opens you up to people who will defend the region against you. And make sure you ban them right at an update so that you can't be countered quickly enough. If you do it some time randomly before or after, it's just gonna be a lot lot harder. Just for the record, the minor update is at 12PM EST and the major is at 12AM EST.

It's nice to see new raider regions popping up but you gotta be smart. Don't count your chickens before they hatch. Don't declare victory when you haven't won yet. Check out other raider organizations for inspiration. And definitely don't let anybody get you down, whether here on the forums or elsewhere, provided that you aren't doing something against the rules.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=514486

Edit: btw don't bother with a dispatch of 'fendas' you've banned. Once you start doing more raids, that list will be way too big. And just for the record, you haven't successfully raided Free Ninjago Union so you can take that off your list.

I did successfully raid it, I changed the WFE and flag and banjected the founder.
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Postby Perruzio Veloce » Mon Nov 11, 2019 12:48 am

I'm going to assume from what everyone else has been saying that you just entered a region, got influence, banned the founder, did a bit of disfiguring and called it a day. You didn't do it right at an update so as a result, the founder just unbanned themself and everything was back to normal pretty quickly. As a whole, the raid was not successful and you were little more than a nuisance than somebody who has taken control of a region.

I see potential in you, you could definitely be a massive benefit to the raiding world. Just focus on getting a few things right and you should be ok.

P.S Please change that flag
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Postby New Agraces » Mon Nov 11, 2019 1:30 am

Perruzio Veloce wrote:I'm going to assume from what everyone else has been saying that you just entered a region, got influence, banned the founder, did a bit of disfiguring and called it a day. You didn't do it right at an update so as a result, the founder just unbanned themself and everything was back to normal pretty quickly. As a whole, the raid was not successful and you were little more than a nuisance than somebody who has taken control of a region.

P.S Please change that flag

The founder didn't log in until a day later. Before that, there was a battle against fendas, which they managed to win only because the update (yes I know what that is) happened later than on the previous day.
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Postby Bowzin » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:08 am

Perruzio Veloce wrote:you were little more than a nuisance than somebody who has taken control of a region.

this is tag raiding....except he didnt do it at update.

I feel like people are being way to harsh. The Intruders, despite their garish flag, and low numbers(i believe just New Agraces) have successfully tagged a few regions, even if it only lasted for a little. Given it seems they have little to no raiding experience, I am impressed. New Agraces, I cannot say this enough, I highly recommend you join a raiding org and learn the ropes a little better though. You can do both the Intruders, and learn via The Black Hawks for an example. You don't have to choose between the two. Join TBH, learn a bit about the modern raiding gameplay, and use that knowledge to improve your operations here. I see potential in you.
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Postby East Meranopirus » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:22 am

Bowzin wrote:
Perruzio Veloce wrote:you were little more than a nuisance than somebody who has taken control of a region.

this is tag raiding....except he didnt do it at update.

I feel like people are being way to harsh. The Intruders, despite their garish flag, and low numbers(i believe just New Agraces) have successfully tagged a few regions, even if it only lasted for a little. Given it seems they have little to no raiding experience, I am impressed. New Agraces, I cannot say this enough, I highly recommend you join a raiding org and learn the ropes a little better though. You can do both the Intruders, and learn via The Black Hawks for an example. You don't have to choose between the two. Join TBH, learn a bit about the modern raiding gameplay, and use that knowledge to improve your operations here. I see potential in you.

I think it's more the attitude, the unwillingness to learn or admit mistakes, that's the real problem here. If he takes your advice though, then perhaps we could reconsider.
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Postby Armaros » Mon Nov 11, 2019 2:49 am

East Meranopirus wrote:
Bowzin wrote:this is tag raiding....except he didnt do it at update.

I feel like people are being way to harsh. The Intruders, despite their garish flag, and low numbers(i believe just New Agraces) have successfully tagged a few regions, even if it only lasted for a little. Given it seems they have little to no raiding experience, I am impressed. New Agraces, I cannot say this enough, I highly recommend you join a raiding org and learn the ropes a little better though. You can do both the Intruders, and learn via The Black Hawks for an example. You don't have to choose between the two. Join TBH, learn a bit about the modern raiding gameplay, and use that knowledge to improve your operations here. I see potential in you.

I think it's more the attitude, the unwillingness to learn or admit mistakes, that's the real problem here. If he takes your advice though, then perhaps we could reconsider.

Most of the people in this thread bashing on them behave very much in the same attitude, and speak from a non-existent high horse.
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Postby Perruzio Veloce » Mon Nov 11, 2019 3:05 am

Yeah to be fair, Bowzin's right. You still went out and got at least one region without much experience. As he said, put your region aside for a little bit and join some other raider organization for a while to understand how it all works. While getting experience, add on to your region and eventually you'll be all good to do your own thing.
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Postby Wayneactia » Mon Nov 11, 2019 5:23 am

I suppose it is a novel concept to tag raiding.

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Postby Perruzio Veloce » Mon Nov 11, 2019 6:07 am

Wayneactia wrote:I suppose it is a novel concept to tag raiding.

They'll get the hang of it eventually
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