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by Draculanovia » Mon May 16, 2011 10:42 am
by Draculanovia » Mon May 16, 2011 10:51 am
by The Palentine » Mon May 16, 2011 10:58 am
by Drell-alan » Mon May 16, 2011 2:43 pm
by Puddletowne » Mon May 16, 2011 4:26 pm
by Draculanovia » Tue May 17, 2011 6:09 am
by The Palentine » Tue May 17, 2011 8:44 am
Draculanovia wrote:I can promise everyone who is voting on this particular piece of legislation that if it gets passed, my government will go to having no civil rights and that anyone and everyone who leaves our country will be declared missing persons and the nations that this law will apply to will be required to return them, political refugees or not. While I believe the intentions are good, I will prove the flaws with it if I have to, and none of you will have any choice but to comply with it. Just a heads up to you. I have no intention of allowing this law to pass without it having to be revoked due to the flaws with it, and I will play dirty if I have to in order to prove it. Be quite careful of your actions in passing it.
-President Dracul
Draculanovian Head of State
Founder Peaceful Democratic Peoples of Earth
by Hirota » Tue May 17, 2011 9:46 am
by Audiles » Tue May 17, 2011 11:04 am
by The Palentine » Tue May 17, 2011 11:12 am
Audiles wrote:In support of Pres. Dracul and Sen. Sulla, who aim to further register their displeasure through exploitation and over-conformity with this questionable act, we Audiles look forward to locating and expelling all foreign refugees within our borders. Perhaps government sponsored bounty hunting and the resulting population reduction will boost our failing economy.
by Audiles » Tue May 17, 2011 11:47 am
by Bronskism » Tue May 17, 2011 12:43 pm
by Folder Land » Tue May 17, 2011 3:49 pm
by Merlinus II » Tue May 17, 2011 10:25 pm
Drell-alan wrote:This act has my full backing. A way of tracking missing persons is essential in keeping our communities secure. Furthermore, it can also be used to track other important figures, if held hostage or worse. Though lets just hope that some more corrupt nations wont use this act to impose their power or enact clandestine operations against their own people. Thank you.
Sen. Jones Willow
by The Palentine » Thu May 19, 2011 8:42 am
Merlinus II wrote:Friends and Colleagues:
We have a long-standing position that there are a few terms that, when added to any WA Proposals are "Poison Pills" with regards only to our support of them. This Proposal has several, but the three which stand out to us are:
Create: While the purpose of the Proposal is laudable, in this particular matter the WA is behind our nations. We have a strict and comprehensive nation-wide program to deal with abducted or missing persons; we do not restrict these programs to age. We voluntarily assist other national and planet-wide services in such cases, and we prosecute severely anyone even remotely attached to such events. We find on reason for support a duplicative service, but would freely offer our plan for implementation by any nation who should choose to request it. We feel this is a fundamental responsibility of good governance within our realm, yet do not presume to dictate to others how they should address, if they choose, such programs. This is a matter of national sovereignty for us. When the WA proposes to duplicate our present services, we reject those proposals as unnecessary duplication.
Mandate: It is not, to our thinking, the purvue of WA to Mandate such things, when such things are already in place within our realm. That we are "ahead of the curve" pleases us immensely, and reject the necessity of mandating (in it's true form) intervention in our national Justice operations. We particularly cringe when we see unfunded mandates of any type on the part of this august body. While we fully understand and appreciate that ours is a highly advanced Monarchy, and enjoy the benefits which have come to us as a result of this reality, our Law Enforcement and military fully implement and maintain our missing persons programs with great purpose, dedication and amazing ability. In fact, as our programs are much more severe than this proposal "mandates" this proposal, while advantageous to many nations, would require us to take several leaps back. This, we are not willing to do.
Require: As the above may indicate, we maintain our sovereignty, and take as an affront any reference to "requiring" us to amend our superior programs in order to fall into line with what can humbly, and respectfully be referred to as an inferior program for the sake of "Shooting for the Middle Ground", which to us this proposal requires. We continue to propose that requirement of such standards does not benefit our planet, but in fact weakens it.
Then, there is ihis:
Drell-alan wrote:This act has my full backing. A way of tracking missing persons is essential in keeping our communities secure. Furthermore, it can also be used to track other important figures, if held hostage or worse. Though lets just hope that some more corrupt nations wont use this act to impose their power or enact clandestine operations against their own people. Thank you.
Sen. Jones Willow
As if dropped from the Heavens, our point is made complete by this friend. The unrestricted "reach" of this proposal is completely unacceptable to us. While the concern stated is for "corrupt nations", we see this statement as a straw man argument, used to avoid focus on that which precedes it. What "other" uses might such a program inject itself? No, this we would never permit. It is for reasons as this that Merlinus, and by extension that Region which we host (TIDA) require all legislation to be singular in it's focus, and specific in its parameters.
For these reasons, we do vote against this Proposal, in the hopes that a more suitable proposal may be secured by our esteemed body, with the hope that such will be soon forthcoming.
Best Regards, etc.
by Draculanovia » Thu May 19, 2011 11:02 am
by Flibbleites » Thu May 19, 2011 11:16 am
Draculanovia wrote:I am very happy that this piece of legislation passed. It now means that I can turn my government into a violent and evil dictatorship, log every single person who tries to flee from our barcoded system as a missing person, and force the hands of all WA members into sending them back to me for execution. Thank you so very much for finally giving me the upper hand I need over all you other bleeding heart goody two shoes nations. Muahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaahahahahaha.
-President Dracul
Draculanovian Head of State
by Charlotte Ryberg » Thu May 19, 2011 11:49 am
Flibbleites wrote:Draculanovia wrote:I am very happy that this piece of legislation passed. It now means that I can turn my government into a violent and evil dictatorship, log every single person who tries to flee from our barcoded system as a missing person, and force the hands of all WA members into sending them back to me for execution. Thank you so very much for finally giving me the upper hand I need over all you other bleeding heart goody two shoes nations. Muahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaahahahahaha.
-President Dracul
Draculanovian Head of State
Would you kindly point out which clause states that we have to return any missing people to you or any other nation?
Furthermore, The Rogue Nation of Flibbleites wishes to let all Draculanovian citizens know that should they wish to flee their nation we will grant them asylum.
Bob Flibble
WA Representative
by Mousebumples » Mon May 23, 2011 9:27 am
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