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[PASSED] Universal Standard Time Act

Postby Opiachus » Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:03 am

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A Universal time that is the same for all planets in all systems. Any suggestions?
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Universal Standard Time Act

Category: Free Trade
Strength: Mild

PREAMBLE:
The World Assembly, gathered today, has neglected to provide a universal time measurement for all WA nations in the universe. Such a need for this time measurement can not be ignored. It can be used by international combat operations to co-ordinate militaries from several countries to jointly attack. It can be used as an official time zone for use in governments. It is needed to make a common time zone for convienient reference, so that no converting is necessary. An act like this should have been approved before. Nations are still able to keep any previous and make new formats of time.

The World Assembly hereby:

DEFINES and CREATES the WA Universal Time (WAUT) as a common time measure for the WA across all WA nations as a co-ordinated time measure designed to increase government effectiveness and provide a universal time for the WA.

WA Universal Time in this document will now be known as UT (Universal Time).

FORMS the World Assembly Time Board (WATB), tasked with regulating UT around all nations to be syncronised within half a second (0.5 seconds or 500 milliseconds) of a master atomic clock started once this resolution is passed. The atomic precision master clock shall be kept to match a chosen planet's time as defined below. It will use a second defined as 9,192,631,770 transitions between the two hyperfine ground states of a caesium-133 atom, thereby making the master clock an atomic clock.

FURTHER DEFINES that the WATB observes and keeps the master clock to match the local time tracked at an observatory picked by the WATB. Time observation will start when this legislation is passed by the General Assembly. Master clock will be kept in check by adding "leaps" of various intervals to keep the clock correct to the observatory chosen.

SELECTS a universal 24 hour, 60 minute, 60 second day for WA internal use. UT will use this format.

CLARIFIES that an hour is 60 minutes, and a minute is 60 seconds. The exact scientific definition of a second is 9,192,631,770 electronic transitions between the two hyperfine ground states of caesium-133 atoms.

STRONGLY RECOMMENDS member states to define UT/WAUT by the definition provided above, and to recognize this act and it's implements as an official time measurement for government use.

URGES member states to contribute to the WATB by hosting a secondary clock to provide a backup. Please note that the clock in question needs to be a caesium-133 atomic clock.

NOTES that member states can still change their own regulations on timekeeping as a sovereign entity. Nations can also create new time formats and use them without intervention from the WATB.

AFTERWORD:
This act:
- Defines and Creates WAUT/UT.
- Forms the WATB.
- Further defines that the master clock(and by extension, WAUT/UT) be following a chosen local time on a planet tracked at an observatory chosen by the WATB.
- Selects a 24 hour, 60 minute, 60 second day and clock system for WA use.
- Strongly Recommends WA states to recognize this act and it's implements as an official time measurement tool.
- Urges WA states to contribute via hosting a secondary clock to enhance UT.

The World Assembly hereby passes the Universal Standard Time Act and it's implements.
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Postby Cathatis » Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:15 am

Silly. You can't regulate time, many countries are spread across whole planets. It's impossible. Some have different length of days, etc. You can't do it. Opposed.
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:18 am

Category, Strength?

Also, there is more than just military reasons for the coordination of time, but since there are many planets and clock systems...

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Postby Kelssek » Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:23 am

This actually isn't that bad of an idea. The time standard, however, would have to be based on some kind of absolute physical standard, such as the half-life of a particular isotope, and not on the arbitrary dividing up of the period of rotation of a particular planet, as most of our time standards are currently based on.

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Postby Jesoland » Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:32 am

DIstinguished colleagues,

It's not so silly, but it doesn't make any sense to state an Ephemeris Time for different planets or stellar systems...

We hink that the only "time regolation" WA can pass is a thing somehow similar to Unix Time. But then one doesn't need WATB, leaps and so on.

Placet iuxta modum: we like the idea in abstract, but we believe that it should be completely amended
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Mon Jan 03, 2011 12:16 pm

It's likely to be free trade, mild, for the promotion of accurate time keeping. Just a mere suggestion: we should define a universal day as that of 24 hours, an hour of 60 minutes, minute as 60 seconds. It's not likely to be an RL concern but simply common sense in my opinion.

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Postby Opiachus » Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:19 pm

This entire post is OOC, except when mentioned:

Cathatis wrote:Silly. You can't regulate time, many countries are spread across whole planets. It's impossible. Some have different length of days, etc. You can't do it. Opposed.

How about a universal time non-dependent on any planet's rotation? We just pick a planet and use it's ephemeris time or local time in a chosen place, and we do that as a separate time for the universe? Don't get me wrong, we aren't imposing a mandatory time for all places, just one that should be used in official documents;etc.
Like UTC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coordinated_Universal_Time

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:Category, Strength?

Also, there is more than just military reasons for the coordination of time, but since there are many planets and clock systems...

I can't figure out the category & strength...
As for planets, there is no problem, and clock systems.. Well, clocks are a bigger problem.

Kelssek wrote:This actually isn't that bad of an idea. The time standard, however, would have to be based on some kind of absolute physical standard, such as the half-life of a particular isotope, and not on the arbitrary dividing up of the period of rotation of a particular planet, as most of our time standards are currently based on.

Does Caesium-133 exist in NS? We'll use that if does.

Jesoland wrote:DIstinguished colleagues,

It's not so silly, but it doesn't make any sense to state an Ephemeris Time for different planets or stellar systems...

We hink that the only "time regolation" WA can pass is a thing somehow similar to Unix Time. But then one doesn't need WATB, leaps and so on.

Placet iuxta modum: we like the idea in abstract, but we believe that it should be completely amended

Let's amend it then.

INFORMATION:
A Universal time that is the same for all planets in all systems. Any suggestions?
(OOC: Okay, Here goes:)


Universal Standard Time Act

Category: Free Trade
Strength: Mild

PREAMBLE:
The World Assembly, gathered today, has neglected to provide a universal time measurement for all WA nations in the universe. Such a need for this time measurement can not be ignored. It can be used by international combat operations to co-ordinate militaries from several countries to jointly attack. It can be used as an official time zone for use in governments. It is needed to make a common time zone for convienient reference, so that no converting is necessary. An act like this should have been approved before.

The World Assembly hereby:

DEFINES and CREATES the WA Universal Time (WAUT) as a common time measure for the WA across all WA nations as a co-ordinated time measure designed to increase government effectiveness and provide a universal time for the WA.

WA Universal Time in this document will now be known as UT (Universal Time).

FORMS the World Assembly Time Board (WATB), tasked with regulating UT around all nations to be syncronised within half a second (0.5 seconds or 500 milliseconds) of a master atomic clock started once this resolution is passed. The atomic precision master clock shall be kept to match a chosen planet's time as defined below. It will use a second defined as 9,192,631,770 transitions between the two hyperfine ground states of a caesium-133 atom, thereby making the master clock an atomic clock.

FURTHER DEFINES that the WATB observes and keeps the master clock to match the local time tracked at an observatory picked by the WATB. Time observation will start when this legislation is passed by the General Assembly. Master clock will be kept in check by adding "leaps" of various intervals to keep the clock correct to the observatory chosen.

SELECTS a universal 24 hour, 60 minute, 60 second day for WA internal use. UT will use this format.

CLARIFIES that an hour is 60 minutes, and a minute is 60 seconds. The exact scientific definition of a second is 9,192,631,770 electronic transitions between the two hyperfine ground states of caesium-133 atoms.

STRONGLY RECOMMENDS member states to define UT/WAUT by the definition provided above, and to recognize this act and it's implements as an official time measurement for government use.

URGES member states to contribute to the WATB by hosting a secondary clock to provide a backup. Please note that the clock in question needs to be a caesium-133 atomic clock.

AFTERWORD:
This act:
- Defines and Creates WAUT/UT.
- Forms the WATB.
- Further defines that the master clock(and by extension, WAUT/UT) be following a chosen local time on a planet tracked at an observatory chosen by the WATB.
- Selects a 24 hour, 60 minute, 60 second day and clock system for WA use.
- Strongly Recommends WA states to recognize this act and it's implements as an official time measurement tool.
- Urges WA states to contribute via hosting a secondary clock to enhance UT.

The World Assembly hereby passes the Universal Standard Time Act and it's implements.

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:It's likely to be free trade, mild, for the promotion of accurate time keeping. Just a mere suggestion: we should define a universal day as that of 24 hours, an hour of 60 minutes, minute as 60 seconds. It's not likely to be an RL concern but simply common sense in my opinion.

- Ms. S. Harper.

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Dear Ms. Harper,
We have reviewed our idea and will try and implement it in the act. This clock system sounds very easy to track. We are implementing it right now!

Thank you for your input,
Jacob MacDonald

EDIT: OOC: Hey, look at Charlotte Ryeberg's Forum rank: The Muse of the Westcountry!
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Postby Just Guy » Mon Jan 03, 2011 1:51 pm

Hey, I was just looking at the definition of a second!

I like it, though I wouldn't mind at all the last two clauses being mandatory.
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Mon Jan 03, 2011 2:03 pm

Also, we feel that it is necessary to let member states keep their own system of time measurement as well.

Speaking of measurement, make sure it doesn't conflict with an existing resolution on measurement: GA#88 WA Numeration and Units Act

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Postby Parti Ouvrier » Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:30 pm

Just Guy wrote:Hey, I was just looking at the definition of a second!

I like it, though I wouldn't mind at all the last two clauses being mandatory.


Risks are necessary for progression. I think the idea is cool. When will it be submitted?
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Postby Opiachus » Mon Jan 03, 2011 6:44 pm

Charlotte Ryberg wrote:Also, we feel that it is necessary to let member states keep their own system of time measurement as well.

Speaking of measurement, make sure it doesn't conflict with an existing resolution on measurement: GA#88 WA Numeration and Units Act

I don't think it does. And of course we'll let them keep it. We don't want to be violating that resolution!
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Just Guy wrote:Hey, I was just looking at the definition of a second!

I like it, though I wouldn't mind at all the last two clauses being mandatory.


Risks are necessary for progression. I think the idea is cool. When will it be submitted?

Yes, it might need to be mandatory. It will be submitted when we reach more input on this and when everything's a go-go.

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Postby Darenjo » Mon Jan 03, 2011 10:17 pm

What about planets that don't have an Earth-standard 24 hour day?
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Postby Just Guy » Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:02 pm

Yeah, days shouldn't be subdivided into hours.
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Postby Sionis Prioratus » Mon Jan 03, 2011 11:20 pm

Opiachus wrote:A Universal time that is the same for all planets in all systems. Any suggestions?


OOC: It's physically impossible. You'll have to recall Special and/or General Relativity. Time is relative, not absolute. Relative to movement and gravity. RW atomic clocks that are transported by air must have the effects of the transportation velocity considered for their recalibration. And the worldwide GPS system is only possible because it accounts for the effects that Earth's gravity has on the geosynchronous orbit.

If that wasn't enough, using excitation states of atoms: these can (and are) heavily influenced by magnetic fields. RP'd Nations orbiting magnetars have got bad luck?
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Postby Hirota » Tue Jan 04, 2011 2:48 am

But what about Time Dilation?
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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:31 am

Hirota wrote:But what about Time Dilation?


Is that anything like Time Warp?
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Postby Lykosia » Tue Jan 04, 2011 3:39 am

Hey, we can use the NS forum's time!

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Postby Opiachus » Tue Jan 04, 2011 8:10 pm

Sionis Prioratus wrote:
Opiachus wrote:A Universal time that is the same for all planets in all systems. Any suggestions?


OOC: It's physically impossible. You'll have to recall Special and/or General Relativity. Time is relative, not absolute. Relative to movement and gravity. RW atomic clocks that are transported by air must have the effects of the transportation velocity considered for their recalibration. And the worldwide GPS system is only possible because it accounts for the effects that Earth's gravity has on the geosynchronous orbit.

If that wasn't enough, using excitation states of atoms: these can (and are) heavily influenced by magnetic fields. RP'd Nations orbiting magnetars have got bad luck?

Oh. Is NS actually that accurately scientific?

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Postby Bears Armed » Thu Jan 06, 2011 11:31 am

The exact scientific definition of a second is 9,192,631,770 electronic transitions between the two hyperfine ground states of caesium-133 atoms.


"That sounds like a rather arbitrary number to me: Why not simply specify 10'000'000'000 such whatevers, instead?"


(OOC: Yes, I do realise that such numbers are used in RL because of the need to conform [more or less] to pre-existing lengths of seconds, & so on, but the Bears don't use the 'RL' second in their own timekeeping anyway and if we're defining a standard for the WA then why should we be bound by the sizes of RL units?)
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Postby Opiachus » Sun Feb 13, 2011 3:40 pm

I'm submitting it.

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Postby Knootoss » Sun Feb 13, 2011 3:52 pm

What problem does this resolution solve?

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Postby Eireann Fae » Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:35 pm

(OOC: Why use Earth's insane system? I'd much rather have, say, 100-second minutes, 100-minute hours, and 10-hour days.)

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Postby EastSky » Sun Feb 13, 2011 6:39 pm

I'm proud to have been the first delegate to approve this proposal. The standardization of Time is essential for international trade and interaction.
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Postby Flibbleites » Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:03 pm

This appears to me to be a solution looking for a problem. I fail to see the need for the WA to be in the business of regulating time.

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Postby Mousebumples » Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:07 pm

Flibbleites wrote:This appears to me to be a solution looking for a problem. I fail to see the need for the WA to be in the business of regulating time.

Agreed. What's next? A proposal that legislates the speed at which planets revolve around the sun?
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