[PASSED] Commend Starblaydia

[Unibot]

I don't think we should commend a dictatorship. We would send out the wrong message.

We're not commending Starblaydia for being a dictatorship, besides Starblaydia roleplays his/her nation as a Constitutional Monarchy with a democratic assembly.

[Kalibarr]

I see no reason to be against this, and I'm glad the SC is expanding to other communities. For.

[Unibot]

Always can count on Mikeswill and The West Pacific to stomp. 10000 Islands is the only reason why anything these days passes.

[Mahaj WA Seat]

FOR.

[Unibot]

FOR.

Thank you to you and your region, and Happy Holidays!

[Krioval]

While this resolution contains nothing objectionable, it also fails to capture our support as worthy of enshrinement in international law. At the risk of being miscategorized as being against all commendations, I vote against. The fawning purple prose certainly did not help this resolution's case in the Kriovaller Senate.

Henrik Søgård
Imperial Chiefdom of Krioval

[Unibot]

While this resolution contains nothing objectionable, it also fails to capture our support as worthy of enshrinement in international law. At the risk of being miscategorized as being against all commendations, I vote against. The fawning purple prose certainly did not help this resolution's case in the Kriovaller Senate.

Henrik Søgård
Imperial Chiefdom of Krioval

Nah, I've seen you vote for some resolutions.. you share little of the staunch opposition to the SC as shared by Mikeswill and the West Pacific. I disagree about worthiness, but I can see from some nations' perspectives, the sports community may not have affected their nations personally (closely?) and thus nations may not feel particularly enthused about voting for this resolution.. similar to the situation that happened with HC Eredivisie.

OOC: I take it this is an IC objection to sporting being commended?

[Topid]

I'll like vote for with TFL soon. The region's vote is favoring fairly significantly.

I don't really see a reason to vote against or for personally... I don't know anything about him good or bad and by the length of this thread I'd say that is the same for a lot of people.

[Bears Armed]

"For!"


(Now, if only our own team could finally get past the World Cup's 'group' stage...)

[Unibot]

(Now, if only our own team could finally get past the World Cup's 'group' stage...)

OOC: Good luck this year, Bears!

[Difiniland]

I don't think we should commend a dictatorship. We would send out the wrong message.

CORRECT!

With all due respect to Unibotian, who might I add seems to have just as corrupt a government as Starblaydia, there is nothing commendable about Starblaydia...PUT THIS RESOLUTION DOWN! The World Assembly should be ashamed to recognize and acclaim a dictatorship!

VOTE AGAINST THIS RESOLUTION! FOR THE GOOD OF MANKIND!

Signed,

-Antonio-
Leader of Difiniland
Delegate to the World Assembly for The United Serene Nations

[Mahaj WA Seat]

I don't think we should commend a dictatorship. We would send out the wrong message.

CORRECT!

With all due respect to Unibotian, who might I add seems to have just as corrupt a government as Starblaydia, there is nothing commendable about Starblaydia...PUT THIS RESOLUTION DOWN! The World Assembly should be ashamed to recognize and acclaim a dictatorship!

VOTE AGAINST THIS RESOLUTION! FOR THE GOOD OF MANKIND!

Signed,

-Antonio-
Leader of Difiniland
Delegate to the World Assembly for The United Serene Nations

get off the floor!

[Retired WerePenguins]

We shall vote "FOR" this fine resolution, thankful that Flash is currently working the GA floor. I think he would go gaga over games. Damn rubgy player.

Robert Brown, who would rather see an olympic event of single malt drinking and cigar smoking over anything physical.

[Difiniland]

CORRECT!

With all due respect to Unibotian, who might I add seems to have just as corrupt a government as Starblaydia, there is nothing commendable about Starblaydia...PUT THIS RESOLUTION DOWN! The World Assembly should be ashamed to recognize and acclaim a dictatorship!

VOTE AGAINST THIS RESOLUTION! FOR THE GOOD OF MANKIND!

Signed,

-Antonio-
Leader of Difiniland
Delegate to the World Assembly for The United Serene Nations

get off the floor!

Watch yourself Mahaj WA Seat.
You are a disappointment to the cause of Civil Liberty.
And "get off the floor" does not account for an educated argument...something to consider.

Good day,

-Antonio-
Leader of Difiniland
Delegate to the World Assembly for The United Serene Nations
Hope/Peace/Prosperity

[Unibot]

I don't think we should commend a dictatorship. We would send out the wrong message.

CORRECT!

With all due respect to Unibotian, who might I add seems to have just as corrupt a government as Starblaydia, there is nothing commendable about Starblaydia...PUT THIS RESOLUTION DOWN! The World Assembly should be ashamed to recognize and acclaim a dictatorship!

VOTE AGAINST THIS RESOLUTION! FOR THE GOOD OF MANKIND!

Signed,

-Antonio-
Leader of Difiniland
Delegate to the World Assembly for The United Serene Nations

For the good of mankind? What about all the other species.. or gender for that matter?

With all due respect to Difiniland, (1) The World Assembly is not commending Starblaydia for being a "corrupt government" or a "dictatorship", (2) Starblaydia is a constitutional monarchy with a democratic assembly^[1], (3) The General Assembly has passed measures regarding Freedom of Expression and Assembly, and even has a category for the Furtherment of Democracy... but it has never declared an explicit opposition to dictatorial government ... in fact, there does seem to be a justifiable moral reason for dictatorship as a transitory body to evade an even greater threat to the political freedom of an otherwise, stable democracy.

[Difiniland]

CORRECT!

With all due respect to Unibotian, who might I add seems to have just as corrupt a government as Starblaydia, there is nothing commendable about Starblaydia...PUT THIS RESOLUTION DOWN! The World Assembly should be ashamed to recognize and acclaim a dictatorship!

VOTE AGAINST THIS RESOLUTION! FOR THE GOOD OF MANKIND!

Signed,

-Antonio-
Leader of Difiniland
Delegate to the World Assembly for The United Serene Nations

For the good of mankind? What about all the other species.. or gender for that matter?

With all due respect to Difiniland, (1) The World Assembly is not commending Starblaydia for being a "corrupt government" or a "dictatorship", (2) Starblaydia is a constitutional monarchy with a democratic assembly^[1], (3) The General Assembly has passed measures regarding Freedom of Expression and Assembly, and even has a category for the Furtherment of Democracy... but it has never declared an explicit opposition to dictatorial government ... in fact, there does seem to be a justifiable moral reason for dictatorship as a transitory body to evade an even greater threat to the political freedom of an otherwise, stable democracy.

"Starblaydia is a constitutional monarchy"? I laugh at the label it has given itself! Just one glance at the nation, one will see that it is "ruled by a dictator" and the the political freedoms and civil liberties are "frightening."

Do what you may with this commendation but I would hope a level-headed reader would refuse to support this proposal because of the face of its corrupt form of government. If the government was civil I would be proud to support its commendation but that is not the case.

-Antonio-
Leader of Difiniland
Delegate to the World Assembly for The United Serene Nations
Hope/Peace/Prosperity

[America Liberty]

Why must you waste our time with issues like this? It sounds like an ego-booster bill, or maybe somebody lost a bet. I would like to think the World Assembly could conduct more productive bills - Such as, Prohibiting Smoking inside the Assembly buildings during gatherings.. ahm.. http://www.nationstates.net/eireann_fae_wa_mission.

[Unibot]

For the good of mankind? What about all the other species.. or gender for that matter?

With all due respect to Difiniland, (1) The World Assembly is not commending Starblaydia for being a "corrupt government" or a "dictatorship", (2) Starblaydia is a constitutional monarchy with a democratic assembly^[1], (3) The General Assembly has passed measures regarding Freedom of Expression and Assembly, and even has a category for the Furtherment of Democracy... but it has never declared an explicit opposition to dictatorial government ... in fact, there does seem to be a justifiable moral reason for dictatorship as a transitory body to evade an even greater threat to the political freedom of an otherwise, stable democracy.

"Starblaydia is a constitutional monarchy"? I laugh at the label it has given itself! Just one glance at the nation, one will see that it is "ruled by a dictator" and the the political freedoms and civil liberties are "frightening."

Do what you may with this commendation but I would hope a level-headed reader would refuse to support this proposal because of the face of its corrupt form of government. If the government was civil I would be proud to support its commendation but that is not the case.

-Antonio-
Leader of Difiniland
Delegate to the World Assembly for The United Serene Nations
Hope/Peace/Prosperity

Frightening does not necessarily suggest that the Civil Rights are of an awful standard, they may be Frightening Good or Frighteningly Bad.. it all depends on what one is frightened of. Liberty is often a frightening notion to someone who has lived all their life with someone telling them what to think. I've already explained that a dictatorship is most acceptable to salvage liberty in a democratic emergency.. and furthermore your concerns are based on one statistic. NSwiki and Starblaydia's factbook identifies Starblaydia as a constitutional monarchy with a democratic assembly, another census says "dictatorship"... the latter is a questionable census, it uses qualitative descriptions ("frightening"), imprecise definitions and unstated methodology other than some rather unscientific methods like "spending many tedious hours in coffee shops and concert halls", "WA experts studied the ratings of daytime television chat shows", "experts studied the ratings of daytime television chat shows" or most curiously.. "telephoned citizens from all nations at just before dinner time, in a study to determine which populations were the rudest."

[Unibot]

Why must you waste our time with issues like this? It sounds like an ego-booster bill, or maybe somebody lost a bet. I would like to think the World Assembly could conduct more productive bills - Such as, Prohibiting Smoking inside the Assembly buildings during gatherings.. ahm.. http://www.nationstates.net/eireann_fae_wa_mission.

Hhhm.. America Liberty supports a ban on smoking-- how liberal of you. The General Assembly is more appropriate for your suggestion than the Security Council.

[Quiris]

Upon pondered consideration on commending Starblaydia, we, the peoples of the Republic of Quiris, vote for commending their efforts as a true example nation-state must be.

[TannerFrankLand]

As it would turn out, most of my endorsers ended up going against after all. I vote with them.

[No Depression]

Against. I do not commend dictatorships.

[Bears Armed]

"Starblaydia is a constitutional monarchy"? I laugh at the label it has given itself! Just one glance at the nation, one will see that it is "ruled by a dictator" and the the political freedoms and civil liberties are "frightening."

Do what you may with this commendation but I would hope a level-headed reader would refuse to support this proposal because of the face of its corrupt form of government. If the government was civil I would be proud to support its commendation but that is not the case.

-Antonio-
Leader of Difiniland
Delegate to the World Assembly for The United Serene Nations
Hope/Peace/Prosperity

"Newbs..."


"Listen, here's some friendly advice:
"1. Don't shout.
"2. Don't take the World Survey's reports as gospel truth, because it certainly makes mistakes: After all, it fails to recognise that Bears Armed doesn't have a national government at all when we certainly do, claims that our population is over nine billion although the true figure is actually just below nineteen million, and mistakes our traditional cross-Clan 'Warrior Societies' -- which are generally respected, not "feared" as it asserts -- for nothing more than 'biker gangs'... Oh, and today it's claiming that we have nationally-set 'income tax', too, which is outright wrong...
"3. Don't shout."


Artorrios o SouthWoods,
Chairbear, Bears Armed Mission at the World Assembly.


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OOC: For your information, it is generally considered acceptable for people to RP their nations as differing in various ways from how the game's decidely simplistic programming describes those countries, and trying to insist that the descriptions must be taken as completely accurate just makes you look foolish...

[Topid]

OOC: For your information, it is generally considered acceptable for people to RP their nations as differing in various ways from how the game's decidely simplistic programming describes those countries, and trying to insist that the descriptions must be taken as completely accurate just makes you look foolish...

And as you must know because I do (and I know very little about RP), there is also a smaller group of roleplayers that do roleplay based on what the game gives them, and they will not ignore it.

Is it not just as foolish to insist that this information must be ignored and only IC posts be considered just because one form of roleplay is more popular?
EDIT:

Bears is right on the other point though, etiquette online says it is rude to bold or underline or caplock entire lines or sentences because it is usually used to indicate shouting or anger. It is better just to do it to one or two words for emphasis like my post above.

[Bears Armed]

OOC: For your information, it is generally considered acceptable for people to RP their nations as differing in various ways from how the game's decidely simplistic programming describes those countries, and trying to insist that the descriptions must be taken as completely accurate just makes you look foolish...

And as you must know because I do (and I know very little about RP), there is also a smaller group of roleplayers that do roleplay based on what the game gives them, and they will not ignore it.

Is it not just as foolish to insist that this information must be ignored and only IC posts be considered just because one form of roleplay is more popular?

When one is talking about a nation in the context of RP (which this proposal's subject matter basically is), shouldn't one do so according to the manner in which it that nation actually is RPed?