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Ossitania
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Postby Ossitania » Mon Jan 31, 2011 4:40 pm

Jedi8246 wrote:It matters not. I cannot commend anyone who has such practices. I'm sure he shall be commended anyway, but I wanted to express my disapproval.


What the ambassador from Unibot is saying is that the representative for the Cat-Tribe doesn't insult other debaters, other debaters simply claim as such as a form of argumentum ad hominem.
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Postby Southern Bellz » Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:07 am

The Cat-Tribe is an upstanding member of The South Pacific, I do not know if that makes much of a difference, but I do support this.

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Postby Unibot II » Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:52 am

Thanks for the approval, Bellz.
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Postby Curlyhoward » Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:39 am

I join in support of The Cat Tribe for his dedication and unending support of our region. Thanks, and....woo woo!!

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Postby LadyRebels » Wed Feb 09, 2011 9:12 am

I will certainly be voting for on this one, when it comes to vote?
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Postby Takaram » Wed Feb 09, 2011 1:10 pm

Already said this on the XKI thread, but I fully support commended The Cat-Tribe.

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Postby Unibot II » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:39 pm

This will be submitted when I get back my computer from the shop and midterms are finished, so I can dedicate my time towards sealing the deal, hopefully.
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Postby Unibot II » Sat Feb 12, 2011 5:42 pm

Europe has declared its support privately,
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Postby Mahaj WA Seat » Sun Feb 13, 2011 8:29 pm

i'll demand my delegate support it.
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Postby Unibotian WA Mission » Fri Feb 18, 2011 5:43 pm

Commend The Cat-Tribe” has been submitted. :)
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Postby Mahaj WA Seat » Fri Feb 18, 2011 6:31 pm

32 approvals ALREADY!
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Jedi Utopians wrote:5) Now, saying that a nation couldn't be part of OPEC would be bold. AIPEC sounds like something you'd want to get checked out by a physician for.


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Postby Parti Ouvrier » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:47 am

Jedi8246 wrote:The Ambassador of Jedi8246 does not approve of this commendation. He has released the following statement.

We find that though The Cat-Tribe is a strong debater, they have fallen into insulting those that do not agree with them. A strong example of this was on the "On Abortion" bill. We do offer the fact that The Cat-Tribe is a strong debater, however we cannot approve of this since they have insulted fellow ambassador's. We bid you good day and good luck.


Well isn't that interesting. I remember TCT telling me that I 'seem to misunderstand the nature of free expression. In the marketplace of ideas, you can say what you want. I can say what I want to criticize or disagree with what you've said. In doing so, I have not oppressed you. Our expressions compete on their merits, not out of some preset entitlement.' [1]Oh the bourgeois explanation here. Having said that and despite our ideological differences, I will be voting for this commendation of TCT as I believe TCT does have a 'preset entitlement' to insult, however foolish the insult may be. If the insult is particularly foolish, this gives others the opportunity to ruthlessly expose the foolishishness and criticise them. Although I must say Jedi8246, you would be wise to find evidence of TCT's insults, personally I have not been insulted by TCT, only annoyingly partronised. This is the same TCT who is willing to concede annoying liberal snobbishness,[2] but as I've said before, people have a right to be annoying as well. The reason I support this commendation is because regardless of what anyone thinks of the TCT, he is a great debater and probably has some understanding of the class struggle having come from humble beginnings. Finally, I take TCT's non-philistine approach to the abortion question(including defending the mentally ill) as evidence of reasonably good political consciousness, however flawed I consider The Cat-Tribe's liberal politics to be.

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Postby Mahaj WA Seat » Sat Feb 19, 2011 7:58 am

fastest i've seen anything reach quorum.
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Jedi Utopians wrote:5) Now, saying that a nation couldn't be part of OPEC would be bold. AIPEC sounds like something you'd want to get checked out by a physician for.


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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:13 am

You obviously haven't been around very long.
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Postby Parti Ouvrier » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:13 am

Ossitania wrote:
Jedi8246 wrote:It matters not. I cannot commend anyone who has such practices. I'm sure he shall be commended anyway, but I wanted to express my disapproval.


What the ambassador from Unibot is saying is that the representative for the Cat-Tribe doesn't insult other debaters, other debaters simply claim as such as a form of argumentum ad hominem.


I suspect you are correct, I doubt evidence of insults is not forthcoming. The only thing they can accuse TCT of is being patronising and pompous, but these are mere character flaws not a justification against TCT's debating skills.
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Postby Mahaj WA Seat » Sat Feb 19, 2011 8:15 am

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:You obviously haven't been around very long.

not terribly, no.
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Jedi Utopians wrote:5) Now, saying that a nation couldn't be part of OPEC would be bold. AIPEC sounds like something you'd want to get checked out by a physician for.


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Postby Unibotian WA Mission » Sat Feb 19, 2011 9:28 am

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:You obviously haven't been around very long.


5.5 hours by my clock. That's not bad, I partly use C&C submissions as practice at getting liberations in the queue quickly, and that's about as quick as I've done it before.
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Postby Unibotian WA Mission » Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:17 pm

This up to vote.
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Postby Frenequesta » Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:58 pm

Although the Cat-Tribe's actions are certainly a paragon for debate and decorum, one that all NSers should look up to, I fail to see how this passes the "person behind the nation" test. I understand that not all WA members RP themselves as Ambassadors of nations, but this proposal does not commend any action of a nation, but rather of the person behind it. Although the proposal never refers to the Cat-Tribe as a person, neither does it as a nation. I myself am confused on whether to support or reject.
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Postby Unibot II » Tue Feb 22, 2011 11:20 pm

Frenequesta wrote:Although the Cat-Tribe's actions are certainly a paragon for debate and decorum, one that all NSers should look up to, I fail to see how this passes the "person behind the nation" test. I understand that not all WA members RP themselves as Ambassadors of nations, but this proposal does not commend any action of a nation, but rather of the person behind it. Although the proposal never refers to the Cat-Tribe as a person, neither does it as a nation. I myself am confused on whether to support or reject.


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Renacia
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Postby Renacia » Wed Feb 23, 2011 11:53 am

In The States for Peace communal opinion Cat-Tribe lacked a large amount of professionalism and sportsmanship for lack of a better word.

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Unibot II
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Postby Unibot II » Wed Feb 23, 2011 12:00 pm

Renacia wrote:In The States for Peace communal opinion Cat-Tribe lacked a large amount of professionalism and sportsmanship for lack of a better word.


Debates are not a sport, they're politics, and they can gravely affect many peoples lives. Perhaps it is you who needs to learn the gravity of the WA's debates and decisions, before you treat our comments as trivialities that should adhere to some sort of code of 'sportsmanship'. I think I've provide you amble evidence to show the professionalism of The Cat-Tribe in his debates.
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:44 am

Whoa, this thing turned into a de facto Condemnation of Christian Democrats without my even noticing. Sneaky Unibotian bastards. Opposed.
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Postby Unibot II » Thu Feb 24, 2011 9:54 am

Omigodtheykilledkenny wrote:Whoa, this thing turned into a de facto Condemnation of Christian Democrats without my even noticing. Sneaky Unibotian bastards. Opposed.


Alas, I have to claim it went without notice from me either. The mere contrast between people we approved and people we disprove of, is a contrast, not necessarily condemnation/commendation. See "Condemn Greater Tez" for an example of the inverse circumstance, where people we approved of are given recognition during a condemnation of someone else.
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Postby Tiroan » Thu Feb 24, 2011 2:10 pm

We here support this fully.

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