Defeated: Nuclear Weapon Test Ban

[Quadnairia]

Nuclear Weapon Test Ban
Category: Global Disarmament
Strength: Significant

The World Assembly

NOTING the danger presented by nuclear fallout

CONCERNED about the testing and use of nuclear weapons

HEREBY RESOLVES that all nations shall prohibit, prevent, and not carry out nuclear explosions, test or otherwise, at any place within their jurisdiction or control in the atmosphere, outer space, underwater, or in any other environment if an explosion would send radioactive fallout outside of the territorial limits of the nation carrying out the explosion;

FURTHER RESOLVES that all nations refrain from causing, encouraging, or participating in any nuclear explosion, test or otherwise, in any environment described above.
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This is my first proposed resolution. Any questions, comments, concerns, ideas, etc., would be great.

[Hellestia]

The Hellestine Republic condemns such legislation to ever be proposed in the General Assembly.

[Holy Roman Confederate]

This would basically limit members to the club of nuclear powers to those already with fission/fusion weapons. We cannot and will not support this measure.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

The Mind of Charlotte Ryberg is unable to support a complete ban on nuclear weapons. Technological advances in weaponry could stagnate even if we were never to deploy a single silo in a real war.

Yours etc,

[Grays Harbor]

We believe it may well contradict NAPA as well, which would render it illegal.

[Meekinos]

Never mind that's it's idealistic twaddle.

[Wolffbaden]

The Empire of Wolffbaden dismisses this proposal as an absurd idea. We have already been granted the right to defend ourselves with nuclear armaments; this seeks to eliminate it.

[Bears Armed]

We believe it may well contradict NAPA as well, which would render it illegal.

No, NAPA simply allows nations to own nuclear weapons, it doesn't say anything about testing -- or, for that matter, using -- them.

[Quadrimmina]

The Republic of Quadrimmina expresses concerns that not allowing WA nations to develop and test nuclear weapons will lead to a disparity between the quality of nuclear technology in WA nations and non-WA nations. This would render WA nations unable to defend themselves. We will not allow this. AGAINST.

[Bears Armed]

The Republic of Quadrimmina expresses concerns that not allowing WA nations to develop and test nuclear weapons will lead to a disparity between the quality of nuclear technology in WA nations and non-WA nations. This would render WA nations unable to defend themselves. We will not allow this. AGAINST.

You don't have any allies outside of the WA to whom you could contract-out the testing?

[Quadnairia]

Two points:

1. This isn't a ban on nuclear weapons. This resolution would not affect the ownership of weapons. It only limits how weapons would be used and tested.

2. This isn't a complete ban on testing. Nations would be allowed to continue testing as long as fallout wouldn't spread to places outside of the testing nation. Underground testing would not be banned.

[New La Habana]

Nuclear Weapon Test Ban
Category: Global Disarmament
Strength: Significant

The World Assembly

NOTING the danger presented by nuclear fallout

CONCERNED about the testing and use of nuclear weapons

HEREBY RESOLVES that all nations shall prohibit, prevent, and not carry out nuclear explosions, test or otherwise, at any place within their jurisdiction or control in the atmosphere, outer space, underwater, or in any other environment if an explosion would send radioactive fallout outside of the territorial limits of the nation carrying out the explosion;

FURTHER RESOLVES that all nations refrain from causing, encouraging, or participating in any nuclear explosion, test or otherwise, in any environment described above.
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This is my first proposed resolution. Any questions, comments, concerns, ideas, etc., would be great.

It needs a bit more.....substance.......

[Grays Harbor]

2. This isn't a complete ban on testing. Nations would be allowed to continue testing as long as fallout wouldn't spread to places outside of the testing nation. Underground testing would not be banned.

We would love to hear your thoughts on just how we are to control continental prevailing winds and currents?

[Quadnairia]

It needs a bit more.....substance.......

Any ideas you have are welcome.

Again, to those who are worried about such things, I have to point out that underground testing WOULD NOT be banned. Fallout from underground tests doesn't travel that far.

[Philimbesi]

HEREBY RESOLVES that all nations shall prohibit, prevent, and not carry out nuclear explosions, test or otherwise, at any place within their jurisdiction or control in the atmosphere, outer space, underwater, or in any other environment if an explosion would send radioactive fallout outside of the territorial limits of the nation carrying out the explosion;

Bans the use of nuclear weapons and such we can not support this.

Nigel S Youlkin
USP Ambassador to the WA.

[New La Habana]

HEREBY RESOLVES that all nations shall prohibit, prevent, and not carry out nuclear explosions, test or otherwise, at any place within their jurisdiction or control in the atmosphere, outer space, underwater, or in any other environment if an explosion would send radioactive fallout outside of the territorial limits of the nation carrying out the explosion;

Bans the use of nuclear weapons and such we can not support this.

Nigel S Youlkin
USP Ambassador to the WA.

OOC: I think that the general idea is that it only bans nuclear tests, it is the wording of it that makes it seem like it bans all use of nuclear weapons, which isn't the intention as far as I'm aware.....

[Flibbleites]

HEREBY RESOLVES that all nations shall prohibit, prevent, and not carry out nuclear explosions, test or otherwise, at any place within their jurisdiction or control in the atmosphere, outer space, underwater, or in any other environment if an explosion would send radioactive fallout outside of the territorial limits of the nation carrying out the explosion;

Bans the use of nuclear weapons and such we can not support this.

Nigel S Youlkin
USP Ambassador to the WA.

OOC: I think that the general idea is that it only bans nuclear tests, it is the wording of it that makes it seem like it bans all use of nuclear weapons, which isn't the intention as far as I'm aware.....

We've got a saying around here, "The law means what the law says." And this proposal would most definitely ban the use of nuclear weapons not just because of the "or otherwise" bit, but also because using a nuclear weapon would certainly "end radioactive fallout outside of the territorial limits of the nation carrying out the explosion." As a result The Rogue Nation of Flibbleites can not suppport this proposal.

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

[Quadrimmina]

The Republic of Quadrimmina expresses concerns that not allowing WA nations to develop and test nuclear weapons will lead to a disparity between the quality of nuclear technology in WA nations and non-WA nations. This would render WA nations unable to defend themselves. We will not allow this. AGAINST.

You don't have any allies outside of the WA to whom you could contract-out the testing?

We would never contract out the testing of our top secret weapons programs to other nations that may one day be our enemies in war. To do so would be to compromise the safety and security of our nation.

[Guttenberg Republics]

you must understand that if a mosquete on its age was the nuclear missile of ours. being or not, people will always make something worse!

[Severania]

The Holy Empire refuses to approve of this.

[New Atlanticia]

you must understand that if a mosquete on its age was the nuclear missile of ours. being or not, people will always make something worse!

The People's Republic of new Atlanticia agrees. However, the point of fact is this isn't a ban on the ownership of nuclear weapons, nor the testing of them. We see that as clear as day. Confined, and recorded testings are needed in order for the people of not just a nation, but for the World to feel safe.

Nuclear arms are good. Think of the technological advances that we have already been through in our life. If we put a stop on Nuclear Weapons tech. We would be deterring ourselves from greater technology in the future.

The proposal has the full support of New Atlanticia!

[Serrland]

We feel that this resolution, while not in direct contradiction of the NAPA, is in contradiction to the spirit of the NAPA.

NOTICING the fact that many non member nations are hostile towards WA members,
REALIZING that the WA members need to be able to defend themselves if attacked,
1. DECLARES that WA members are allowed to possess nuclear weapons to defend themselves from hostile nations,

The NAPA clauses quoted above touts the right to self-defense as a reason for allowing for the legality of WA nuclear arsenals. Should this proposed resolution go into effect the spirit of the NAPA will be severely undermined - how is a WA nation to possess nuclear weapons in a defensive capacity if they are unable to properly test them? That removes a great deal of the deterrent factor: a non-WA nation would undoubtedly be less worried about an untested nuclear arsenal than one that has been successfully tested.

[Quadrimmina]

We feel that this resolution, while not in direct contradiction of the NAPA, is in contradiction to the spirit of the NAPA.

NOTICING the fact that many non member nations are hostile towards WA members,
REALIZING that the WA members need to be able to defend themselves if attacked,
1. DECLARES that WA members are allowed to possess nuclear weapons to defend themselves from hostile nations,

The NAPA clauses quoted above touts the right to self-defense as a reason for allowing for the legality of WA nuclear arsenals. Should this proposed resolution go into effect the spirit of the NAPA will be severely undermined - how is a WA nation to possess nuclear weapons in a defensive capacity if they are unable to properly test them? That removes a great deal of the deterrent factor: a non-WA nation would undoubtedly be less worried about an untested nuclear arsenal than one that has been successfully tested.

I defer to the delegation from Flibbleites for my response.

HEREBY RESOLVES that all nations shall prohibit, prevent, and not carry out nuclear explosions, test or otherwise, at any place within their jurisdiction or control in the atmosphere, outer space, underwater, or in any other environment if an explosion would send radioactive fallout outside of the territorial limits of the nation carrying out the explosion;

Bans the use of nuclear weapons and such we can not support this.

Nigel S Youlkin
USP Ambassador to the WA.

OOC: I think that the general idea is that it only bans nuclear tests, it is the wording of it that makes it seem like it bans all use of nuclear weapons, which isn't the intention as far as I'm aware.....

We've got a saying around here, "The law means what the law says." And this proposal would most definitely ban the use of nuclear weapons not just because of the "or otherwise" bit, but also because using a nuclear weapon would certainly "end radioactive fallout outside of the territorial limits of the nation carrying out the explosion." As a result The Rogue Nation of Flibbleites can not suppport this proposal.

Bob Flibble
WA Representative

[New Korongo]

Nuclear stockpiles stop world wars.

[New Atlanticia]

No, they cause mass paranoia, and spread fear. That doesn't win wars. It just creates a boiling point.