[PASSED] Commend 10kI - The Revival, The Conclusion.

[Ardchoille]

Aegera made a generalised snarky comment. AMOM responded to it with a personal snarky comment. Both were unnecessary, AMOM's more so, because it was personal.

My commenting on that does not establish some grand overall ruling, it is a method of telling a poster who has previously transgressed not to do so again. Now let's end the threadjack.

[Fuaidh Mor]

Back on topic.

Are you going to Submit this one now AMOM?

[A mean old man]

Well, I've now been asked if I can wait to submit the proposal until Unibot's "Liberate Greece" is in the queue, so that the liberation can be voted on first (simply because it is a liberation, and is naturally a bit of a more urgent matter than a commendation), but Unibot needs to wait for one of the Greek natives to approve of the final version of the commendation before he submits it...

I guess that now, we play...

...the waiting game...

[Unibot]

Well, I've now been asked if I can wait to submit the proposal until Unibot's "Liberate Greece" is in the queue, so that the liberation can be voted on first (simply because it is a liberation, and is naturally a bit of a more urgent matter than a commendation), but Unibot needs to wait for one of the Greek natives to approve of the final version of the commendation before he submits it...

I guess that now, we play...

...the waiting game...

How'll about this, I'll give the native two more hours, or otherwise I submit? The natives approved the liberation already, it all just comes down to the semantics of the language... if I got my facts wrong, well, shame on me.

[A mean old man]

How'll about this, I'll give the native two more hours, or otherwise I submit? The natives approved the liberation already, it all just comes down to the semantics of the language... if I got my facts wrong, well, shame on me.

Sure, sounds like a plan. I can't imagine that the native will crucify you for jumbling up some tiny detail. If the other native already approved, chances are this native will as well. If you did screw something up in the wording somehow, I guess it's the function of the liberation that matters in the long run.

[Unibot]

How'll about this, I'll give the native two more hours, or otherwise I submit? The natives approved the liberation already, it all just comes down to the semantics of the language... if I got my facts wrong, well, shame on me.

Sure, sounds like a plan. I can't imagine that the native will crucify you for jumbling up some tiny detail. If the other native already approved, chances are this native will as well. If you did screw something up in the wording somehow, I guess it's the function of the liberation that matters in the long run.

Grandon just said the other natives would approve if he did.

[A mean old man]

Preparing text for submittal...

[Charlotte Ryberg]

Ms. Harper has approved this proposal and is pleased to see this in queue. Hopefully this should resolve the long-running problem as a result of that typo...

Yours etc,

[A mean old man]

Thank ya, Ms. Harper.

[Argonia and Gergoniva]

The Republican Federation of Argonia and Gergoniva has too, given its endorsement of this worthwhile proposal.

- Dr. Rupert Thorpe, Argonivan Ambassador to the WA

[Evil Wolf]

I think we should Condemn TITO.

All those stopped raids are an affront to a players "Admin given right" to play how they wish. TITO is simply trying to satisfy a need to be the Internet White Knight at the expense of game activity.

[Wanjestay]

I think we should Condemn TITO.

All those stopped raids are an affront to a players "Admin given right" to play how they wish. TITO is simply trying to satisfy a need to be the Internet White Knight at the expense of game activity.

what a ridiculous opinion. What about regions like Greece? Regions which, at one point, were vibrant active regions? and now are dead, basically, because of raiders and invaders. I wouldn't want this to happen to any region (well, apart from Nazi Europe). What about rights to be reside in a region without fear of invaders and raiders?

[Argonia and Gergoniva]

I think we should Condemn TITO.

All those stopped raids are an affront to a players "Admin given right" to play how they wish. TITO is simply trying to satisfy a need to be the Internet White Knight at the expense of game activity.

Just because an action is allowed, that doesn't mean people should stand for it. As such, Argonia and Gergoniva is wholly opposed to any form of regional invasion, which it decries as a most despicable action and will consequently support any and all attempts to thwart such reprehensible deeds. It's mindless imperialism in our view.

- Dr. Rupert Thorpe, Argonivan Ambassador to the WA


OOC: Seriously, whilst you are allowed to raid another region, others are also allowed to challenge you and stop you. Goes without saying really.

[Evil Wolf]

Bah, you've clearly all been brain washed by defender propaganda. Sure sometimes a few Crashers come along and password a region, but these are very few cases in comparison to the overall number of raids that occur throughout nationstates. More often than not an invasion upon a region has a positive effect as native members are now suddenly motivated to get involved in their region once again if for no other purpose but to liberate it from the Crashers that have taken over.

With defenders showing up to "save the day" this spark of activity never happens and the region remains stagnant and dry until it finally dies.

[Reggenza del Carnaro]

I think we should Condemn TITO.

All those stopped raids are an affront to a players "Admin given right" to play how they wish. TITO is simply trying to satisfy a need to be the Internet White Knight at the expense of game activity.

what a ridiculous opinion. What about regions like Greece? Regions which, at one point, were vibrant active regions? and now are dead, basically, because of raiders and invaders. I wouldn't want this to happen to any region (well, apart from Nazi Europe). What about rights to be reside in a region without fear of invaders and raiders?

May I know what Nazi Europe did to your most honourable nation to deserve to 'die'?

[Wanjestay]

I think we should Condemn TITO.

All those stopped raids are an affront to a players "Admin given right" to play how they wish. TITO is simply trying to satisfy a need to be the Internet White Knight at the expense of game activity.

what a ridiculous opinion. What about regions like Greece? Regions which, at one point, were vibrant active regions? and now are dead, basically, because of raiders and invaders. I wouldn't want this to happen to any region (well, apart from Nazi Europe). What about rights to be reside in a region without fear of invaders and raiders?

May I know what Nazi Europe did to your most honourable nation to deserve to 'die'?

seeing as i lost a number of family members in the holocaust, i'm against the sentiment entirely.

[Reggenza del Carnaro]

I think we should Condemn TITO.

All those stopped raids are an affront to a players "Admin given right" to play how they wish. TITO is simply trying to satisfy a need to be the Internet White Knight at the expense of game activity.

what a ridiculous opinion. What about regions like Greece? Regions which, at one point, were vibrant active regions? and now are dead, basically, because of raiders and invaders. I wouldn't want this to happen to any region (well, apart from Nazi Europe). What about rights to be reside in a region without fear of invaders and raiders?

May I know what Nazi Europe did to your most honourable nation to deserve to 'die'?

seeing as i lost a number of family members in the holocaust, i'm against the sentiment entirely.

Oh, so you're talking about RL....

[Evil Wolf]

Ladies and gentlemen, I'm moving this thread to Drama Def-Con Level 3.

[Unibot]

Bah, you've clearly all been brain washed by defender propaganda. Sure sometimes a few Crashers come along and password a region, but these are very few cases in comparison to the overall number of raids that occur throughout nationstates. More often than not an invasion upon a region has a positive effect as native members are now suddenly motivated to get involved in their region once again if for no other purpose but to liberate it from the Crashers that have taken over.

With defenders showing up to "save the day" this spark of activity never happens and the region remains stagnant and dry until it finally dies.

Sometime in the near future I want to do an quasi-academic paper on this theory, depending on the conclusion of the paper, it will either be dismissed as defender or raider propaganda.

[Ardchoille]

Fascinating though it obviously is to the participants, the usual raider/defender squabble is taking the thread slightly off-topic. Swing it right away from Nazi Europe. Make a new thread if you want to Condemn TITO. Stick to the terms of this proposal.

[Mahaj]

back on topic...

I like this proposal.

I wasn't sure why the first one was repealed anyhow.

[Ballotonia]

back on topic...

I like this proposal.

I wasn't sure why the first one was repealed anyhow.

That's in the repeal: http://www.nationstates.net/page=WA_pas ... s/start=75

Ballotonia

[JURISDICTIONS]

Very Good AMOM! And Congrats on getting it in the Queue!

I hope it passes. One day though, the Security Council will be above the Defender/Raider politics that go into SC resolutions.

[A mean old man]

I hope it passes. One day though, the Security Council will be above the Defender/Raider politics that go into SC resolutions.

Eh. I tend to doubt that...

But thank you!

[Evil Wolf]

One day there will be a Commended Crasher region...followed by its imminent Condemnation by anti-Crashed proponents the next week.




One day there will be a Commended and Condemned Crasher region. One day...