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Postby Hirota » Fri Jul 30, 2010 8:58 am

Syrrinx wrote:
Hirota wrote:
Syrrinx wrote:I see this as a legitamite tactic.
Shocking, I should have known a nation as petty and barbaric as yours would see it is legitamite (sic).
But I'm still opposed to this Act.
It's a jolly good thing that nobody really thinks your government is really worth worrying about then isn't it.

I'm just being realistic. Just because you pass a law to stop terrible things, like poisoning water supplies, to be illegal, doesn't mean that men already evil enough to do it will stop doing it. I am definitly opposed to this tactic, but making it illegal isn't going to do anything.
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Postby Syrrinx » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:03 am

Hirota wrote:
Syrrinx wrote:
Hirota wrote:
Syrrinx wrote:I see this as a legitamite tactic.
Shocking, I should have known a nation as petty and barbaric as yours would see it is legitamite (sic).
But I'm still opposed to this Act.
It's a jolly good thing that nobody really thinks your government is really worth worrying about then isn't it.

I'm just being realistic. Just because you pass a law to stop terrible things, like poisoning water supplies, to be illegal, doesn't mean that men already evil enough to do it will stop doing it. I am definitly opposed to this tactic, but making it illegal isn't going to do anything.
Yea, super jolly.
Go read about compliance of WA resolutions before you post again please.

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Postby Embolalia » Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:35 pm

Syrrinx wrote:Sorry, can't hear ya.

Mmm, nothing like the stench of immaturely fired IGNORE cannons!
Rules is rules, dude. And Hirota is right; you need to go read them again. Your nation must, does, and will always comply with the resolutions here. That's why we pass them.


I quite like the name WAWA. But, since there is so little support for it, I will change it before submitting. On that note, I plan to do so a little after midnight tonight, EDT.
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Postby Oceanec » Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:57 pm

I would rather have an act to help the economy or deter terrorism. This bill seems to expensive on my economy and seems to be a lot of goverment regulation

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Postby Enn » Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:18 pm

Oceanec wrote:I would rather have an act to help the economy or deter terrorism. This bill seems to expensive on my economy and seems to be a lot of goverment regulation

In my experience working in different countries, if people are dying from poor water supplies, then they're not able to contribute to the economy. Moreover, they may well be tempted to take up terrorism against their government, for failing to guarantee safe water supplies.

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Postby Embolalia » Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:29 pm

Enn wrote:In my experience working in different countries, if people are dying from poor water supplies, then they're not able to contribute to the economy. Moreover, they may well be tempted to take up terrorism against their government, for failing to guarantee safe water supplies.

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Yup, you got it.

Also, I'm changing WAWA to International Bureau of Water Safety, IBWS. Good?
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Postby Mousebumples » Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:59 pm

Embolalia wrote:
Enn wrote:In my experience working in different countries, if people are dying from poor water supplies, then they're not able to contribute to the economy. Moreover, they may well be tempted to take up terrorism against their government, for failing to guarantee safe water supplies.

Angelo Lanerik,
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Yup, you got it.

Also, I'm changing WAWA to International Bureau of Water Safety, IBWS. Good?

How about "Water Association To Educate & Research" (WATER) ... or something of that nature? There may be a better mixture of words, but that may accomplish the same idea you were trying to express with "WAWA."

Of course, if you've already submitted, feel free to disregard this statement. We have no strong opinions for or against IBWS.

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Postby Embolalia » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:09 pm

Nah, I would rather have the acronym mean something than look cool. Submitted for delegate review. I'll do a TG campaign tomorrow or Sunday.
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Postby Stutenland » Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:14 pm

I, the ambassador of the most esteemed Premier of the People's Republic of Stutenland, wish to voice our nation's support for this act and its humanitarian goal. We will vote in support for this act.
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Postby Embolalia » Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:39 am

Just finished up the first round of TGs. 114, I think. Since it only missed quorum by like 8 last time, I'd bet it'll go through this time.
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Postby Manticore Reborn » Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:50 pm

Embolalia wrote:Just finished up the first round of TGs. 114, I think. Since it only missed quorum by like 8 last time, I'd bet it'll go through this time.

Although it may go through, the Star Kingdom of Manticore Reborn cannot support it at this time. There is just too many clauses which are raising too many eyebrows in our legal department.
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Postby Embolalia » Sat Jul 31, 2010 5:26 pm

Manticore Reborn wrote:
Embolalia wrote:Just finished up the first round of TGs. 114, I think. Since it only missed quorum by like 8 last time, I'd bet it'll go through this time.

Although it may go through, the Star Kingdom of Manticore Reborn cannot support it at this time. There is just too many clauses which are raising too many eyebrows in our legal department.

Specifically?
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Postby Embolalia » Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:27 pm

Quorum bump!
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Postby Krioval » Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:00 am

Syrrinx wrote:I'm just being realistic. Just because you pass a law to stop terrible things, like poisoning water supplies, to be illegal, doesn't mean that men already evil enough to do it will stop doing it. I am definitly opposed to this tactic, but making it illegal isn't going to do anything.
Yea, super jolly.


By that logic, the WA should never pass any legislation. My government offers its support to this proposal.

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Postby Embolalia » Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:22 pm

Thank you, Henrik Søgård.

Also, next up bump! (I'm going to take it as a good sign that debate on this is slow...)
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Postby Sanctaria » Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:58 pm

My government has indicated that they will be supporting this issue when it comes to the floor. We would like to wish the author the best of luck.

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Postby Sionis Prioratus » Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:16 pm

Proud first Delegate voting FOR!

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Postby Sanctaria » Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:18 pm

I've placed my vote, as Delegate, for.

That could change with how my region instructs me to vote, but I'll try my best to argue for.

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Postby Estruia » Sun Aug 08, 2010 12:21 am

To be quite honest, Im quite appalled that someone is trying to enforce a clean drinking water law upon all WA members, Its not up to the WA as a whole on how our personal nations distribute water, and you, the person who wants this passed, are doing nothing but abusing the powers provided by the WA for your own bleeding heart purposes.
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Postby Tangueray » Sun Aug 08, 2010 12:23 am

I voted against, because it lacks two provisions:

1) International monetary funding for poor nations that do not have sufficient natural sources of potable water.

2) Prohibitions and penalties for nations that deliberately deny "down stream" neighbors sufficient water from the source.

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Postby Toraston » Sun Aug 08, 2010 1:43 am

I presume that this version of the Act will clear the (supposed many) loopholes in the original. From reading through the archives of Past resolutions, there seemed to be many loopholes with this act's predecessor.


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Postby Toraston » Sun Aug 08, 2010 2:10 am

Tangueray wrote:I voted against, because it lacks two provisions:

1) International monetary funding for poor nations that do not have sufficient natural sources of potable water.

2) Prohibitions and penalties for nations that deliberately deny "downstream" neighbors sufficient water from the source.


I agree with the honourable ambassador's thinking - especially with the first point. I must point out that the second point would only be a concern if a nation was the owner of a source of water. Sometimes, there may be geographical features where several nations share a freshwater lake, which means that the second point need not apply. i would suggest that the quoted ambassador rethink his second argument.

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Postby Tangueray » Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:05 am

My use of the catch-phrase "down stream" should make it clear that I mean cases where rivers flow from one country into another. However, even in the case of shared lake boundaries, not all is equal. A given lake may have more shoreline on one nation vs. another, or the lake could represent a significantly larger percentage of one country's fresh water over another. A river's east bank may flow along the border of one large country, while the west bank is shared by many smaller ones.

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Postby Hindopia » Sun Aug 08, 2010 3:31 am

3) All nations must provide at least a minimal amount of potable water to all their citizens.

iv) Nations may charge reasonable amounts for water usage, provided such does not impede access.


One could argue that charging even reasonable amounts for water would "impede access". What if a very poor family does not have the funds to pay for their water bill, would that not "impede access"?

I understand the humanitarian concepts of this proposal, I even commend them, but these clauses seem to contradict each other.
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Postby The Voltania » Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:09 am

Pacifica casts its vote FOR this resolution. Clean and safe natural commodities are a basic right for every person and should be treated as such.

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