Silly and/or Illegal GA Proposals. zOMG!

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

This is a tax on WA nations. All funding must come from the General fund.

Not "must." Resolutions can establish independent funds for their own programs if they wish, though in most cases there's not much of a point, since the WAGF is already collecting funds for all WA initiatives.

[Ilharessa]

This is a tax on WA nations. All funding must come from the General fund.

Not "must." Resolutions can establish independent funds for their own programs if they wish, though in most cases there's not much of a point, since the WAGF is already collecting funds for all WA initiatives.

I am afraid Resolution 7 itself does not agree with you according to what I have seen of it. I shall post the portion of it upon which I base my thought that the WA may not assess taxes on other nations.

1. Declares that the World Assembly shall be funded by donations from member states; the WA will not levy taxes directly upon the citizens or residents of any nation;

2. Establishes the WA General Fund, which shall be the central source for the funding of WA operations, and the monies from which shall be spent only on maintaining the administration of the WA and missions established by a vote of the World Assembly;

I understand I may be wrong, so please point me towards a resolution which is funded outside of the WAGF.

[Grays Harbor]

I would disagree with this part

AGREEING to the fact that aircraft are the most important means of transportation currently available.

anyhow. Rail is much more important and hauls more freight.

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

I am afraid Resolution 7 itself does not agree with you according to what I have seen of it.

It says member donations shall fund the WA; it does not also prohibit other funds from contributing to it, particularly since other funds were already supporting WA projects when the resolution was established. Resolution #8 was funded by user fees, and before it was repealed, Resolution #5 had an independent fund.

...Somehow I missed the post on International Security Act. Wouldn't "funding" security details for diplomats also tread a line on "no WA police force"? It seems to be backed by a TG campaign; if it gets close I'll file a GHR.

[Grays Harbor]

We have to agree with OMGTKK on this, the funding portion seems a bit suspect. Also, any nation which cannot provide sufficient security for their diplomats probably shouldn't engage in foreign diplomacy anyhow.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

International Security Act
A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.


Category: International Security
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: Zanaboo

Description: Over the last couple of months, there has been an increase in assassination attempts on delegates visiting foreign countries. Various countries with struggling economies cannot afford a legitimate security detail to protect visiting delegates. This puts the delegate's life at an increased risk from terrorist attacks, assassination attempts, and revolts. Increased risk may deter foreign delegates, who want to help the struggling nation, from visiting and helping said nation.

Individual, economically poor countries may submit a request for security funding from the World Assembly and, if agreed on, will obtain funding for the security detail for the delegate of a visiting nation. This will increase international relations between countries, increase security and military spending, increase international trade and visitations, and decrease terrorism.

Short address:

ADDRESSING the lack of security for international delegates during visits to foreign countries.

DEFINES, as pertaining to this resolution, an economically struggling nation as a nation with insufficient funding and/or a country's inability to properly fund security for a foreign delegate.

AWARE of the lack of funding for a personal security detail in countries with struggling economies.

REQUIRES the funding of a security detail for foreign delegates.

NOTES that economically struggling countries may not have the stability to fund a suitable security detail.

ALLOWS said economically struggling country to appeal to the World Assembly for funding.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 56 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days, 6 hours

This is not strong. And I think it may cause problems with the Diplomat Protection Act.

In my opinion the strength may be too strong and I would agree that it duplicates the Diplomat Protection Act: WA delegates are basically the same as WA ambassadors: whether the WA member is a delegate or member.

Oh, and the Half And Half Act is submitted again while the other one is still active.

[Ilharessa]

I am afraid Resolution 7 itself does not agree with you according to what I have seen of it.

It says member donations shall fund the WA; it does not also prohibit other funds from contributing to it, particularly since other funds were already supporting WA projects when the resolution was established. Resolution #8 was funded by user fees, and before it was repealed, Resolution #5 had an independent fund.

...Somehow I missed the post on International Security Act. Wouldn't "funding" security details for diplomats also tread a line on "no WA police force"? It seems to be backed by a TG campaign; if it gets close I'll file a GHR.

I admit my lack of knowledge and thank you for pointing out items I had missed while scanning the resolutions.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

Global Defence Force

Category: International Security
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: The Minor Countries

Description: In time of need, such as civil war, famine, and diaster, there has been little help, recovery, and reconstrution. This law is to approve the making of a Global Defence Force. These are the requirments.

1) Able body men and women are to serve in this galiant force.

2) They are to serve at least 20 years. This allows other people to mature and take their place

3) If you are above the age of 50 or are already in college, your are not required to join, however, when you finish coolege you are.

4) You can not buy your way out.

5) Every country must have at least 200,000 soilders to be in this force.


Any people in this force will be serving a great cause; Peace in all the land.

No, seriously: No world armies.

[Grays Harbor]

Global Defence Force

Category: International Security
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: The Minor Countries

Description: In time of need, such as civil war, famine, and diaster, there has been little help, recovery, and reconstrution. This law is to approve the making of a Global Defence Force. These are the requirments.

1) Able body men and women are to serve in this galiant force.

2) They are to serve at least 20 years. This allows other people to mature and take their place

3) If you are above the age of 50 or are already in college, your are not required to join, however, when you finish coolege you are.

4) You can not buy your way out.

5) Every country must have at least 200,000 soilders to be in this force.


Any people in this force will be serving a great cause; Peace in all the land.

No, seriously: No world armies.

Besides the "No Armies" thing, which knocks ot out right away, how are small nations supposed to comply with the 200,000 mandate, or nations with 0 military budget supposed to comply at all?

The there is "coolege" ... Would that be the University of Antarctica, or just an incredibly hip school?

[The Emmerian Unions]

Proposal Messaging Ban

A resolution to restrict civil freedoms in the interest of moral decency.


Category: Moral Decency
Strength: Mild
Proposed by: Carnoly

Description: REALIZING that people want to get a proposal passed.

HONORING the people that want to improve the game in any way possible.

SAVING WA Delegates from bombardments from random people that want their proposal passed.

PROPOSSING that it should be banned for players to message WA Delegates/ members about a descision that they have or have not made, or trying to convince them to join a side.

Game Mechanics and/or Metagaming.

[Charlotte Ryberg]

Global Defence Force

Category: International Security
Strength: Strong
Proposed by: The Minor Countries

Description: In time of need, such as civil war, famine, and diaster, there has been little help, recovery, and reconstrution. This law is to approve the making of a Global Defence Force. These are the requirments.

1) Able body men and women are to serve in this galiant force.

2) They are to serve at least 20 years. This allows other people to mature and take their place

3) If you are above the age of 50 or are already in college, your are not required to join, however, when you finish coolege you are.

4) You can not buy your way out.

5) Every country must have at least 200,000 soilders to be in this force.


Any people in this force will be serving a great cause; Peace in all the land.

No, seriously: No world armies.

Besides the "No Armies" thing, which knocks ot out right away, how are small nations supposed to comply with the 200,000 mandate, or nations with 0 military budget supposed to comply at all?

The there is "coolege" ... Would that be the University of Antarctica, or just an incredibly hip school?

Also worth pointing out the problems when specifying a certain age on this proposal concerned.

[Ilharessa]

Proposal Messaging Ban
A resolution to restrict civil freedoms in the interest of moral decency.


Category: Moral Decency
Strength: Mild
Proposed by: Carnoly

Description: REALIZING that people want to get a proposal passed.

HONORING the people that want to improve the game in any way possible.

SAVING WA Delegates from bombardments from random people that want their proposal passed.

PROPOSSING that it should be banned for players to message WA Delegates/ members about a descision that they have or have not made, or trying to convince them to join a side.


Approvals: 1 (Carnoly)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 55 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days, 6 hours

Game mechanics. And, ironically, they'd have to do a massive messaging campaign to get this passed.

[Grays Harbor]

Proposal Messaging Ban
A resolution to restrict civil freedoms in the interest of moral decency.


Category: Moral Decency
Strength: Mild
Proposed by: Carnoly

Description: REALIZING that people want to get a proposal passed.

HONORING the people that want to improve the game in any way possible.

SAVING WA Delegates from bombardments from random people that want their proposal passed.

PROPOSSING that it should be banned for players to message WA Delegates/ members about a descision that they have or have not made, or trying to convince them to join a side.


Approvals: 1 (Carnoly)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 55 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days, 6 hours

Game mechanics. And, ironically, they'd have to do a massive messaging campaign to get this passed.

And when did "wanting to get a proposal passed" become a valid reason for making a proposal?

[Charlotte Ryberg]

Okay, this may be a bit of a mix between a SC and GA proposal and I hope you won't mind including this here but there is a reason...

Commend NovaPrime

Category: Commendation
Nominee: NovaPrime
Proposed by:NovaPrime

Description: Promote increasing governmental funding for desalination plants for water irrigation and fresh water supply.

It sounds like being a GA resolution promoting water supply, using a very wrong category.

[Grays Harbor]

... and the wrong council

[Mad Sheep Railgun]

Max Barry Day

A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.


Category: Furtherment of Democracy


Strength: Mild


Proposed by: Blluedevil

Description: In November of 2002, Max Barry, a Australian author and blogger whose novel, Jennifer Government, inspired the NationStates game, a website that allows users to make their own fantasy nations.

UNDERSTANDING, that the nations of NationStates should official recognize and show respect to the creator of this website,

DECLARES, that, in lue of Max Barry's birthday, every March 18 will be honored as an international holiday called "Max Barry Day," in honor of the man who created the website of NationStates.

Ah, those oldies but goodies.

[Linux and the X]

Format

Remember where I mentioned needing more than rhetoric? Yeah, this is what I'm talking about. This also includes Repeals with no argument, Proposals that are questions ("Don't you think we should...?"), and Proposals that are just too incomprehensible to make sense of. I realise that not everybody speaks English as a first language (or at all, for that matter). Unfortunately, NS is a game in English. If you cannot compose in proper English, seek the help of somebody (hint-hint, run it through an online translator and post here for clean-up). A Proposal won't be nuked for the occasional typo, but if I have to spend a good chunk of time trying to figure out what's going on, it'll be nuked.

Proposals written entirely in other languages are out, too.

That was only written in one other language.

So it's okay if I write a proposal in another language as long as it has at least one word in English, right?

Wouldn't NS be a game (well, whatever the translation of "game" is) in any language?

Okay, I'm done. For now.

[Bears Armed]

Format

Remember where I mentioned needing more than rhetoric? Yeah, this is what I'm talking about. This also includes Repeals with no argument, Proposals that are questions ("Don't you think we should...?"), and Proposals that are just too incomprehensible to make sense of. I realise that not everybody speaks English as a first language (or at all, for that matter). Unfortunately, NS is a game in English. If you cannot compose in proper English, seek the help of somebody (hint-hint, run it through an online translator and post here for clean-up). A Proposal won't be nuked for the occasional typo, but if I have to spend a good chunk of time trying to figure out what's going on, it'll be nuked.

Proposals written entirely in other languages are out, too.

That was only written in one other language.

So it's okay if I write a proposal in another language as long as it has at least one word in English, right?

Wouldn't NS be a game (well, whatever the translation of "game" is) in any language?

Okay, I'm done. For now.

There's a rule against 'rules-lawyering', too...

[Charlotte Ryberg]

I am afraid Resolution 7 itself does not agree with you according to what I have seen of it.

It says member donations shall fund the WA; it does not also prohibit other funds from contributing to it, particularly since other funds were already supporting WA projects when the resolution was established. Resolution #8 was funded by user fees, and before it was repealed, Resolution #5 had an independent fund.

...Somehow I missed the post on International Security Act. Wouldn't "funding" security details for diplomats also tread a line on "no WA police force"? It seems to be backed by a TG campaign; if it gets close I'll file a GHR.

With only a deficit of 6, I would say now. The same goes for Max Barry Day: we cannot afford to go through that (facepalm) again.

[Grays Harbor]

Native protection act
A resolution to promote funding and the development of education and the arts.


Category: Education and Creativity
Area of Effect: Cultural Heritage
Proposed by: Benutanairan

Description: Upon consideration of the General Assembly we wish for natives of all regions to have culutral protection programs in a world where their culture is rapidly dissapearing and also allowing native reservations for them to govern their own affairs without interference

I was wondering if anybody could write a proposal so generic that it could be considered to cover everybody at once and still do nothing. I thought no, can't do it.

I guess I was wrong.

[Carbandia]

Oh ye of little faith.

Fair pay

A resolution to improve worldwide human and civil rights.


Category: Human Rights


Strength: Significant


Proposed by: Hartsellia

Description: People should get a fair pay for what ever job they have.

Approvals: 1 (Kershnertopia)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 55 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days, 3 hours

Nice idea, lacking in execution.

[Flibbleites]

Max Barry Day

A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.


Category: Furtherment of Democracy


Strength: Mild


Proposed by: Blluedevil

Description: In November of 2002, Max Barry, a Australian author and blogger whose novel, Jennifer Government, inspired the NationStates game, a website that allows users to make their own fantasy nations.

UNDERSTANDING, that the nations of NationStates should official recognize and show respect to the creator of this website,

DECLARES, that, in lue of Max Barry's birthday, every March 18 will be honored as an international holiday called "Max Barry Day," in honor of the man who created the website of NationStates.

Ah, those oldies but goodies.

What's scary is that that's already over halfway to quorum, I just may have to go poke a game mod.

[The Republic of Lanos]

It wasn't illegal when the ORIGINAL passed.
why bother now?

[Omigodtheykilledkenny]

Yes it was. The mods just missed it.

[Grays Harbor]

... I just may have to go poke a game mod.

what you do in private is your own affair, lets keep it off the boards.


huh? thats not what they meant?




nevermind. yes, please, let a game mod know.