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Postby Astrolinium » Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:34 pm

Also, article 2 "- No person(s) may not be turned down from Scouting, no matter their beleifs and ideologies." may just say that no one is allowed to join.
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Removal of Space Weapons
A resolution to slash worldwide military spending.


Category: Global Disarmament
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Davishire2

Description: UNDERSTANDING that many nations already run a space program

REALISING that many nations wish to set up a space program

WORRIED that many of these nations would use space to launch military attacks on others

HEREBY

Defines for use in this resolution the definitions of the following words
-Weapon- Any weapon that can be used to kill or injure another person
-Space Weapon-Any weapon that can be fired from space down to the Earth to attack another country
-Space- The area above 90,000ft above the earth surface

BELIEVING

All weapons which can be placed out of reach of other countries defences and be able to attack other without warning be unfair and unhonourable during a time of war

REQUIRES

All weapons are removed from space without delay.

All manned space vessels which hold large weapons be removed from space

All plans to place weaponry in space are hereby declared null and void

Prohibits the placing of any weapons into space that can be used to attack another country without warning

A SPACE WEAPON REMOVAL Committee be set up to enforce the above resolution


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Postby Mostly armless » Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:41 am

Grays Harbor wrote:
Removal of Space Weapons
A resolution to slash worldwide military spending.


Category: Global Disarmament
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Davishire2

Description: UNDERSTANDING that many nations already run a space program

REALISING that many nations wish to set up a space program

WORRIED that many of these nations would use space to launch military attacks on others

HEREBY

Defines for use in this resolution the definitions of the following words
-Weapon- Any weapon that can be used to kill or injure another person
-Space Weapon-Any weapon that can be fired from space down to the Earth to attack another country
-Space- The area above 90,000ft above the earth surface

BELIEVING

All weapons which can be placed out of reach of other countries defences and be able to attack other without warning be unfair and unhonourable during a time of war

REQUIRES

All weapons are removed from space without delay.

All manned space vessels which hold large weapons be removed from space

All plans to place weaponry in space are hereby declared null and void

Prohibits the placing of any weapons into space that can be used to attack another country without warning

A SPACE WEAPON REMOVAL Committee be set up to enforce the above resolution


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:palm: And they define a weapon as a weapon...
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-Weapon- Any weapon that can be used to kill or injure another person
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Postby Moronist Decisions » Sun Jun 19, 2011 10:19 am

You ninja'ed me :(

1) What's the deal with the committee?
2) Earth only - I'm sure the Monikian delegation would love that.
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Postby Flibbleites » Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:19 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:
Removal of Space Weapons
A resolution to slash worldwide military spending.


Category: Global Disarmament
Strength: Significant
Proposed by: Davishire2

Description: UNDERSTANDING that many nations already run a space program

REALISING that many nations wish to set up a space program

WORRIED that many of these nations would use space to launch military attacks on others

HEREBY

Defines for use in this resolution the definitions of the following words
-Weapon- Any weapon that can be used to kill or injure another person
-Space Weapon-Any weapon that can be fired from space down to the Earth to attack another country
-Space- The area above 90,000ft above the earth surface

BELIEVING

All weapons which can be placed out of reach of other countries defences and be able to attack other without warning be unfair and unhonourable during a time of war

REQUIRES

All weapons are removed from space without delay.

All manned space vessels which hold large weapons be removed from space

All plans to place weaponry in space are hereby declared null and void

Prohibits the placing of any weapons into space that can be used to attack another country without warning

A SPACE WEAPON REMOVAL Committee be set up to enforce the above resolution


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Where?

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Postby Ryouese Black Islands » Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:21 pm

"Removal of Space Weapons" will not get anywhere with the FT Nations.
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Postby Astrolinium » Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:33 pm

Flibbleites wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:
RL references

Where?


I think where it mentions Earth and defines space in accordance with a boundary between Earth and space.
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Postby Flibbleites » Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:37 pm

Astrolinium wrote:
Flibbleites wrote:Where?


I think where it mentions Earth and defines space in accordance with a boundary between Earth and space.

In my mind, that's about as pedantic as saying a "$" is a RL reference.

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Postby Astrolinium » Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:48 pm

Flibbleites wrote:
Astrolinium wrote:
I think where it mentions Earth and defines space in accordance with a boundary between Earth and space.

In my mind, that's about as pedantic as saying a "$" is a RL reference.


Didn't say I agree, just said that's probably what it is.
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Postby Charlotte Ryberg » Sun Jun 19, 2011 2:40 pm

Repeal "Freedom of the Press"

Category: Repeal
Resolution: GA#155
Proposed by: Uzprudistan

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #155: Freedom of the Press (Category: Education and Creativity; Area of Effect: Free Press) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: the people of my country are happy with the government controlling what they read. My country respectfully requests that this resolution be repealed.... or have the Queendom of Uzprudistan be exempt from compliance

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Postby Moronist Decisions » Sun Jun 19, 2011 9:22 pm

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: fuent_1308537871
Repeal "Extradition Rights"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation


Category: Repeal


Resolution: GA#147


Proposed by: Fuent

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #147: Extradition Rights (Category: Human Rights; Strength: Significant) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: The General Assembly,

Believing that this is an important resolution to improve the welfare of those in NationStates,

Realizing, however, this resolution is not detailed in a way that a high-school English teacher will give a good grade to,

Stating, for example, that the author failed to give the definition of extradition, which is the official process whereby one nation or state surrenders a suspected or convicted criminal to another nation or state.

States, as well, that the author also did not give the definition of torture, which is an act of intentionally inflicting pain, severe discomfort or suffering on a person for the purposes of intimidation, coercion, personal punishment or interrogation, or to extract information, confession or concession to demands from them or any other person, where committed with the approval or assistance of a government official or person acting in such capacity.

Having Further noted that the resolution did not explain how member nations would facilitate the extradition of suspected criminals,

Hereby repeals the resolution for Extradition Rights, in hopes that another resolution of this nature will be proposed with more detail.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 81 more approvals)

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We need a dictionary now for all resolutions? And the point is that extradition is limited, not how it is facilitated. And "high school English teacher" might smack of a RL reference ...
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Postby Bears Armed » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:35 am

Flibbleites wrote:
Astrolinium wrote:
I think where it mentions Earth and defines space in accordance with a boundary between Earth and space.

In my mind, that's about as pedantic as saying a "$" is a RL reference.

Well, if "$" isn't a RL reference then what -- if anything -- does it mean when used in GA proposals?
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Postby Darenjo » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:58 pm

I've seen the $ symbol used as the symbol for the International Standard Dollar.
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Postby Bears Armed » Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:54 am

Darenjo wrote:I've seen the $ symbol used as the symbol for the International Standard Dollar.

Okay, but I've seen proposals that actually mentioned the 'International Standard Dollar' by name deleted as illegal for Meta-gaming because of that detail...
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Postby Mallorea and Riva » Tue Jun 21, 2011 10:57 am

Technology Council

A resolution to develop industry around the world.


Category: Advancement of Industry
Area of Effect: Tort Reform
Proposed by: Themaddoctor1

Description: UNDERSTANDS That technology is what makes the world run
REALIZES That some countries are unable to possess some technologies
SUGGESTS That all countries be required to share their technological advancements

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 81 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 10 hours


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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Jun 21, 2011 11:08 am

Mallorea and Riva wrote:
Technology Council

A resolution to develop industry around the world.


Category: Advancement of Industry
Area of Effect: Tort Reform
Proposed by: Themaddoctor1

Description: UNDERSTANDS That technology is what makes the world run
REALIZES That some countries are unable to possess some technologies
SUGGESTS That all countries be required to share their technological advancements

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 81 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 10 hours


:shock:

How in the frell is this "tort reform"? I do not think that means what they think it means.
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Postby Moronist Decisions » Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:01 pm

It needs another clause.

DOES nothing
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Postby Moronist Decisions » Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:44 pm

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: jesseryder_1308710944
Establishing Limits

A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.


Category: Environmental


Industry Affected: All Businesses


Proposed by: Jesseryder

Description: NOTING that our Environment is sacred to every nation

ACKNOWLEDGING that the Economy may be slightly affected by the passing of this legislation

RECOGNIZING that the Environment must be placed in higher priority than any nation's economy

This Bill will propose to restrict the clearing of forests and minimise effects of Global Warming by


- All nations must impose a Carbon Tax, or any other Free market based system, designated in reducing Carbon emissions
- All nations are recommended to stop or minimise clearing of rainforests and diversify their industries, e.g. Information Systems, instead of Uranium Mining, so that forests are protected
- Pollution must be cleared
- Nations will agree to a 10% or greater cut in Carbon Emission Levels



STATING that all nations whom do not comply with these requests will be in danger of sanctions, or economic grief through embargoes.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 81 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days 23 hours


Exceedingly vague, and the last sentence requires embargoes or sanctions - is the "in danger of" enough to skirt away from metagaming violations, or is it not?

Finally: "Free market based system" or carbon tax implies an ideological ban. Either that, or the "carbon tax" is an attempt to change your tax system.

Apart from being a piece of garbage. I request the re-formation of the

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Postby FreeWillToAll » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:00 am

Moronist Decisions wrote:
GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: jesseryder_1308710944
Establishing Limits

A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.


Category: Environmental


Industry Affected: All Businesses


Proposed by: Jesseryder

Description: NOTING that our Environment is sacred to every nation

ACKNOWLEDGING that the Economy may be slightly affected by the passing of this legislation

RECOGNIZING that the Environment must be placed in higher priority than any nation's economy

This Bill will propose to restrict the clearing of forests and minimise effects of Global Warming by


- All nations must impose a Carbon Tax, or any other Free market based system, designated in reducing Carbon emissions
- All nations are recommended to stop or minimise clearing of rainforests and diversify their industries, e.g. Information Systems, instead of Uranium Mining, so that forests are protected
- Pollution must be cleared
- Nations will agree to a 10% or greater cut in Carbon Emission Levels



STATING that all nations whom do not comply with these requests will be in danger of sanctions, or economic grief through embargoes.

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 81 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 2 days 23 hours


Exceedingly vague, and the last sentence requires embargoes or sanctions - is the "in danger of" enough to skirt away from metagaming violations, or is it not?

Finally: "Free market based system" or carbon tax implies an ideological ban. Either that, or the "carbon tax" is an attempt to change your tax system.

Apart from being a piece of garbage. I request the re-formation of the

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Relief from
Extremism

Mostly the same resolution has been reposted.

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Postby Moronist Decisions » Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:25 am

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: salaguay_1308725974
Restrictions on Heavy Arms Act

A resolution to tighten or relax gun control laws.


Category: Gun Control


Decision: Tighten


Proposed by: Salaguay

Description: ARTICLE I
NOTING- Many nations citizens hold the rights to posses firearms.

ACCEPTING- This right as normal and not condemning possession or responsible use of firearms.

ARTICLE II
DEFINING- Heavy arms as assault rifles, machine guns, sub-machine guns, light machine guns, rocket propelled grenades, rocket launchers, missile launchers, and any type of grenade or incendiary/explosive device.

DEFINING- Magazines as the holder of ammunition (usually bullets) inserted into a gun or launcher.
DEFINING- High capacity magazines as magazines that hold high amounts of ammunition. Ex. Pistol with a 20 shot magazine when a normal magazine is only 6 shots.

ARTICLE III
This proposal-
*Restricts access to what article II defines as heavy arms.

Restrictions-
>Person registering for weapon must not be a convicted felon.

>Person registering for weapon must pass a psychological exam.
*Bans high capacity magazines

ARTICLE IIII
REASONS-
*To prevent more loss in the event of an attempted massacre.

*To promote gun safety in member states

ARTICLE IIIII

NOTING-

No restrictions in the act affect the military.

This is not intended to take away the right to bears arms of any country or citizen.

Approvals: 2 (IIIIIDaoistsIIIII, Kronenstadt)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 79 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 2 hours


Bloggy; what is a "felon"; poor definition of what "high capacity magazine" is, and apparently with everything listed (which makes it dubious if it is in the gun control category) having your own tank is a very good idea. Not necessarily illegal, but definitely a dreck.
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Postby Darenjo » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:48 pm

They also don't know their proper Roman numerals. :palm:
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Postby Baptovia » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:28 pm

I'm so glad this wouldn't stop me from owning a bear's arms. :lol2:

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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:29 pm

Darenjo wrote:They also don't know their proper Roman numerals. :palm:

Considering the "quality" *choke* of the rest of this monstrosity, this comes as a surprise to you?
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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:21 pm

Drug and Alcohol Abuse
A resolution to ban, legalize, or encourage recreational drugs.


Category: Recreational Drug Use
Decision: Outlaw
Proposed by: Nautican

Description: DEFINING drug/alcohol abuse as:
1. Intentional overuse of prescription medication to alter one's mood or state of being.
2. Using enough alcohol to reach a state of inebriation.
3. The use of illegal drugs.

SHOCKED that governments will allow such actions;

UNDERSTANDING the banning of such actions will save the lives and well-being of many humans;

DECLARING that the banishment of such actions aid in reducing the number of deaths do to the abuse of drugs and alcohol;

COMMENDING nations that do not already ban such actions;

HEREBY:

REQUIRES such nations to ban the use of alcohol and illegal drugs.

DEMANDING the government monitors the use of prescription medication.

DECLARES the abuse of drugs or alcohol a felony punishable by a sentence in federal prison.

Well, this is a right dogs dinner of a proposal. :palm:
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Postby Darenjo » Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:26 pm

Baptovia wrote:I'm so glad this wouldn't stop me from owning a bear's arms. :lol2:


This wouldn't, but Bears Armed might :p

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Darenjo";p="<a href="tel:6056534">6056534</a> wrote:They also don't know their proper Roman numerals. :palm:

Considering the "quality" *choke* of the rest of this monstrosity, this comes as a surprise to you?


Well, I did think that the author might have remembered their elementary school math...
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