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Postby Separatist Peoples » Tue Sep 29, 2015 1:51 pm

John Turner wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:A rough calculation puts that at 6 trillion greenbacks, or about 8 trillion bucks and 70 million cops for me. Holy mother of god.


Doesn't say they have to be payed full-time members though. Just deputize Boy Scouts and crossing guards and you'll be in full compliance. 8)

Oh hell no. My Boy Scout troop issued itself PVC marshmallow guns and operated military strikes against other troops' campsites. I have nightmares about giving kids like those badges. Bad enough I'm the one who started it! :P

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:05 pm

John Turner wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:A rough calculation puts that at 6 trillion greenbacks, or about 8 trillion bucks and 70 million cops for me. Holy mother of god.

Doesn't say they have to be payed full-time members though. Just deputize Boy Scouts and crossing guards and you'll be in full compliance. 8)

Yes, but then you'd have to make up the difference in GDP by expanding the deputy programme. If they are paid one-half of normal officers, to remain in compliance, you would have to double the number of these, all things remaining equal.

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Postby John Turner » Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:47 pm

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
John Turner wrote:Doesn't say they have to be payed full-time members though. Just deputize Boy Scouts and crossing guards and you'll be in full compliance. 8)

Yes, but then you'd have to make up the difference in GDP by expanding the deputy programme. If they are paid one-half of normal officers, to remain in compliance, you would have to double the number of these, all things remaining equal.


It doesn't say that money has to go to paying law enforcement personnel. You could put that money into paperclips and stuffed animals for charity if you want.
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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Sep 29, 2015 2:51 pm

Repeal "Minimum Standard of Living Act"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#344

Proposed by: Somiya

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #344: Minimum Standard of Living Act (Category: Social Justice; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: This resolution should be repealed because of the negative effect on the economy it has.
My economy crashed when it was passed.
I voted for it as I did not expect this adverse effect on the economy.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Tue Sep 29, 2015 3:32 pm

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Repeal "Minimum Standard of Living Act"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#344

Proposed by: Somiya

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #344: Minimum Standard of Living Act (Category: Social Justice; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: This resolution should be repealed because of the negative effect on the economy it has.
My economy crashed when it was passed.
I voted for it as I did not expect this adverse effect on the economy.
Thank you
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Is this the first time "Oh shit, I voted like a lemming and done fucked myself over" has been used as a repeal argument?
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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Sep 29, 2015 4:29 pm

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Grays Harbor wrote:
Repeal "Minimum Standard of Living Act"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#344

Proposed by: Somiya

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #344: Minimum Standard of Living Act (Category: Social Justice; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: This resolution should be repealed because of the negative effect on the economy it has.
My economy crashed when it was passed.
I voted for it as I did not expect this adverse effect on the economy.
Thank you
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Is this the first time "Oh shit, I voted like a lemming and done fucked myself over" has been used as a repeal argument?

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Postby Grays Harbor » Tue Sep 29, 2015 6:30 pm

Repeal "Restrictions on Child Labor"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.


Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#4

Proposed by: Midal

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #4: Restrictions on Child Labor (Category: Human Rights; Strength: Strong) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: every nation has its own cultures therefore any resolution that might touch unto a nations religous or cultural practices is unjust

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Postby Wrapper » Wed Sep 30, 2015 1:02 pm

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: mensen_1443634733

Beef up the Security Concil

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.

Category: International Security

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Mensen

Description: discription:

NOTING: That our Secruity council is still very influential

ADDING: This will make it more influential and Powerful

EXAMPLE: This is what should be done:
Elected Council members for ranks like head of Peace or something
The power to remove Regions if they break to many of our laws
Ristrictions on nations for joining regions if they have been "Bad"
asisting other regions if there being raided

HOPEING: This will boost our security council to a more powerful position so regions don't mock us.

Approvals: 3 (Vancouvia, Lubti Islands, Al Natun)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 73 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 7 hours

Obvious metagaming.

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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Sep 30, 2015 2:06 pm

Encourage Democracy Throughout

A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.


Category: Furtherment of Democracy

Strength: Mild

Proposed by: Klopsburg

Description: It is well known that throughout our world there are many nations that are non-democratic states. We as the World Assembly should encourage these states to push their democratic ways to run their government.

This bill DOES NOT force any nation to become democratic but instead has them consider more democratic options.

I ask the regional delegates of the World Assembly to encourage the nations of their regions to move towards a democracy in their countries.

This will better the countries of the world because it will show citizens that they will have a say in their government.

Be advised that this does not say how open these elections will be nor does it set a guideline as to how often these elections must be held.

Mild metagaming, and vaguenosity.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Wed Sep 30, 2015 3:35 pm

Wrapper wrote:
GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: mensen_1443634733

Beef up the Security Concil

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.

Category: International Security

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Mensen

Description: discription:

NOTING: That our Secruity council is still very influential

ADDING: This will make it more influential and Powerful

EXAMPLE: This is what should be done:
Elected Council members for ranks like head of Peace or something
The power to remove Regions if they break to many of our laws
Ristrictions on nations for joining regions if they have been "Bad"
asisting other regions if there being raided

HOPEING: This will boost our security council to a more powerful position so regions don't mock us.

Approvals: 3 (Vancouvia, Lubti Islands, Al Natun)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 73 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 7 hours

Obvious metagaming.

Elected Council members for ranks like head of Peace or something

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Postby Grays Harbor » Wed Sep 30, 2015 4:15 pm

Lactose Substitution Act

A resolution to promote funding and the development of education and the arts.


Category: Education and Creativity

Area of Effect: Educational

Proposed by: New Deutsch Europa

Description: The World Assembly,

NOTING that almost all public schools serve milk as a drink at lunch;

UNDERSTANDING that many students in these schools are Lactose Intolerant;

SEEING that these student are forced to drink plain water, that has no taste, because their families cannot afford or do not have enough time to send their child to school each day with a home lunch;

BELIEVING that Lactose Intolerant students would appreciate having a substitute for milk instead of drinking water;

RECOGNISING the fact that passing this resolution would reduce the amount of students that purposely give themselves an allergic reaction purely due to wanting to drink something besides plain water;

REQUIRING that all nations part of the World Assembly provide a drink of equal tastiness that will appeal to the many students in our public schools that are lactose intolerant;

HOPING that this resolution will allow the children of our nations to feel happier about their meals;

THEREFORE giving them emotional positiveness;

WHICH will help them to want to keep going to school;

IMPROVING the overall grades of the students in our nations;

NOTING that higher grades will make students want to go to school even more;

THEREFORE reducing the amount of college dropouts in our nation's Universities;

MAKING the chances of a student getting a good job grow;

THEREFORE improving the standards of living in our nations.

CONCLUDING that the results of passing this resolution would be positive, all nations part of the World Assembly shall provide a drink of equal tastiness that will appeal to the many students in our public schools that are lactose intolerant.

This could very well become the number one example of "Not an International Issue".

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The Standard for All

A resolution to modify universal standards of healthcare.


Category: Health

Area of Effect: Healthcare

Proposed by: Asian Parents

Description: Everyone should be able to choose what kind of healthcare providers they charge their country. This should be decided by what steps you take for the issues.

For example:

When challenging another country in the topic of health, even if both had the same topic and responded differently, they would tie.

Therefore, We Submit the proposal to healthcare providers, which would affect our health policies.

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Postby Bears Armed Mission » Thu Oct 01, 2015 10:15 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:I, however, don't buy Bears Armed argument that imposing this GDP fiat would be a game mechanics violation.

Given that the stat effects of a passed resolution are determined by its category and strength/area-of-effect, rather than by its actual wording;
And given that all WA nations are presumed to comply with the wording of passed resolutions;
And given that in some cases a member nation's current spending on law-&-order (and its tax rates, overall, as well) could be so far into the negative, in terms of OOC stats, that passing a resolution with this category & strength wouldn't bring it into compliance with that GDP fiat..
How is such a nation going to be brought into compliance with that GDP fiat when the resolution passes without Admin intervention to change the stat effects?
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Thu Oct 01, 2015 11:47 am

Bears Armed Mission wrote:
Imperium Anglorum wrote:I, however, don't buy Bears Armed argument that imposing this GDP fiat would be a game mechanics violation.

Given that the stat effects of a passed resolution are determined by its category and strength/area-of-effect, rather than by its actual wording;
And given that all WA nations are presumed to comply with the wording of passed resolutions;
And given that in some cases a member nation's current spending on law-&-order (and its tax rates, overall, as well) could be so far into the negative, in terms of OOC stats, that passing a resolution with this category & strength wouldn't bring it into compliance with that GDP fiat..
How is such a nation going to be brought into compliance with that GDP fiat when the resolution passes without Admin intervention to change the stat effects?

I see what you mean now. Basically, you're going to the Economy screen, looking at the government's control of the economy, and then applying that to the Law and Order screen? Thus, if my economy is 37.7% government and my government spends 3.3% on Law and Order, I would not be able to abide by this resolution because my government only spends 1.24% of GDP on Law and Order?

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Postby Grays Harbor » Thu Oct 01, 2015 12:16 pm

Stop Central Bank Corruption

A resolution to reduce barriers to free trade and commerce.


Category: Free Trade

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Dakling

Description: Recognising that central banks operate in total secrecy, control inflation by the limitless printing of money, and creates fiat currency by eliminating hard currency, and therefore harms the free market,

This Act hereby

Forces central banks to give out a yearly budget,

All Banks not giving budgets will be audited by both the Nation they operate in and the WA,

Will put the power of printing and coining currency solely to the individual Nation's Treasury,

And will force all currencies to be backed by a gold and silver standard.

These provisions will boost the economy of all the Regions in the world and will protect the economic and individual freedom of all Nations and Citizens, significantly reduce the power of the central banks, and will give the market time to grow exponentially to it's full potential.

Naive and simplistic points aside, it appears to reference "regions" which would make it metagaming.

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Legal cars

A resolution to increase the quality of the world's environment, at the expense of industry.


Category: Environmental

Industry Affected: Automotive

Proposed by: TheAverage

Description: It will be legal to drive a car if you own one. To own one you must take a drivers ed class, and must pass a criminal scan to get your drivers lisence.

A police station must provide a criminal record to the place where you ar buying the car, if you have one.

This is just ... wow. Really? My opinion is that it is of the silly variety.
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Postby Tinfect » Thu Oct 01, 2015 5:09 pm

Recreational Usage Acts

A resolution to ban, legalize, or encourage recreational drugs.

Category: Recreational Drug Use

Decision: Outlaw

Proposed by: KarlMarxidonia

Description: Drugs for any purpose should be outlawed.

Anything that changes a person's ability to process and perform daily functions should not be allowed due to the danger one under such influence can cause to society.

Marijuana was outlawed due to the damage it causes to the user and those around that user. Using the drug for medical use instead of enjoyment does not make the effect of the drug any different.

Outlaw Recreational Drug Use


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Approvals: 1 (Vancouvia)


I am not even sure why I am surprised anymore.
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Postby Kaboomlandia » Thu Oct 01, 2015 5:11 pm

Tinfect wrote:Approvals: 1 (Vancouvia)

I am not even sure why I am surprised anymore.

It's getting to the point where I am starting to seriously consider a condemnation of Vancouvia. >:(
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Postby Grays Harbor » Thu Oct 01, 2015 6:18 pm

Increase Funding of Education

A resolution to promote funding and the development of education and the arts.


Category: Education and Creativity

Area of Effect: Educational

Proposed by: Zayofibnibea

Description: This resolution to Increase Funding of Education will help the world in many ways. It will make all our nations have a higher educational system, which will increase literacy. It will also discourage other unlawful activities. Truly, there is no downside to this proposal. Increasing education means the world is smarter, and that is useful for everyone.

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Postby Bears Armed » Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:43 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:
Bears Armed Mission wrote:Given that the stat effects of a passed resolution are determined by its category and strength/area-of-effect, rather than by its actual wording;
And given that all WA nations are presumed to comply with the wording of passed resolutions;
And given that in some cases a member nation's current spending on law-&-order (and its tax rates, overall, as well) could be so far into the negative, in terms of OOC stats, that passing a resolution with this category & strength wouldn't bring it into compliance with that GDP fiat..
How is such a nation going to be brought into compliance with that GDP fiat when the resolution passes without Admin intervention to change the stat effects?

I see what you mean now. Basically, you're going to the Economy screen, looking at the government's control of the economy, and then applying that to the Law and Order screen? Thus, if my economy is 37.7% government and my government spends 3.3% on Law and Order, I would not be able to abide by this resolution because my government only spends 1.24% of GDP on Law and Order?

Basically, yes.

Kaboomlandia wrote:
Tinfect wrote:Approvals: 1 (Vancouvia)
I am not even sure why I am surprised anymore.

It's getting to the point where I am starting to seriously consider a condemnation of Vancouvia. >:(

Maybeso they want the badge?
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Postby Phydios » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:37 pm

Religious funding increase

A resolution to restrict civil freedoms in the interest of moral decency.


Category: Moral Decency


Strength: Significant


Proposed by: Latamer

Description: I propose that all WA nations should have at least 5 percent of spirituality funding in their government sector. Religion and god are improtant, especially Latamer.

Metagaming, branding, not written from the WA's viewpoint. The first sentence might count as an operative clause, but it's a pretty shaky claim. Also, maybe, a category violation?
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Postby Tinfect » Sat Oct 03, 2015 5:38 pm

Phydios wrote:
Religious funding increase

A resolution to restrict civil freedoms in the interest of moral decency.


Category: Moral Decency


Strength: Significant


Proposed by: Latamer

Description: I propose that all WA nations should have at least 5 percent of spirituality funding in their government sector. Religion and god are improtant, especially Latamer.

Metagaming, does nothing, branding. Also, maybe, a category violation?


Absolutely an Ideological ban for secular states.
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Postby Todd Clemont » Sat Oct 03, 2015 6:45 pm

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Postby Grays Harbor » Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:07 pm

Todd Clemont wrote:Shut Down the WA
Category-???
Strength-...
The WA
Recognizing that the WA is now run by a group of elites
Noting that they only seem to impose a one-world communist government
Shuts down the WA

How about not spamming. There's an idea.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:39 pm

Grays Harbor wrote:
Todd Clemont wrote:Shut Down the WA
Category-???
Strength-...
The WA
Recognizing that the WA is now run by a group of elites
Noting that they only seem to impose a one-world communist government
Shuts down the WA

How about not spamming. There's an idea.

How about not alienating the new guy. There's an idea.

Joke proposals go here. This thread is for ones that actually got submitted and shouldn't have been.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:45 pm

Wallenburg wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:How about not spamming. There's an idea.

How about not alienating the new guy. There's an idea.

Joke proposals go here. This thread is for ones that actually got submitted and shouldn't have been.

When the new guy says "WA elites", they deserve to be alienated.
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Postby Wallenburg » Sat Oct 03, 2015 7:50 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:How about not alienating the new guy. There's an idea.

Joke proposals go here. This thread is for ones that actually got submitted and shouldn't have been.

When the new guy says "WA elites", they deserve to be alienated.

We all know Tab1of2 is just Bitely's puppet. They aren't new.
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